This doesn't have anything to do with Christianity you know. And I'm not sure I don't hate the SCOTUS too. Looks like the dragged in a bunch of second-tier types in just to pay off their political pals. |
Just keep your lips still and no prayer can hurt you. Muslim, Jewish, Christian- still lips will keep those prayers away from u and they can’t hurt u. U will be fine. |
So you agree that players are compelled to at least fake it. You’d just stand on a prayer mat and go through the motions and not move your lips and you’d be comfortable doing that? |
No, I don’t agree that students are made to pray. Spectators are not made to pray. If a Muslim coach was praying, I’d respect his right to do so. I am not Muslim and don’t pray to Allah. But coach is welcome to do so. I would not stand on his prayer mat, that’s his prayer mat. Where is a news source that states that football coaches and sports coaches are forcing athletes to pray? |
Again you clearly did not read Kavenaugh’s opinion where he states student would be compelled, they were in the court case, they worried about playing time. |
I did read that. A student said he didn’t pray with the coach, because he didn’t agree with the coach’s religious values- but he was still a starting football player because of his talent and athleticism. The player still played despite not praying with the coach. The opinion also read that all athletes try to curry favor with the their head coaches, and not just through participation in prayer. When Ben Rothelsberger was a high school athlete, he was not a starter. The head coach played his own son at quarterback. And his son was not as good as Ben-at all. Coaches start and play who they wish. |
Exactly Kavenaugh said that while one student may be so good that he feels he can skip the prayer and pray others on the bubble will be compelled to pray, which infringes on their right to religion. The same reason teachers can’t lead prayers. The situation where coaches favor their son does not infringe on any constitutional rights and while that sucks it’s not against the constitution. |
Neither does silently standing by while listening to my coach pray |
https://www.scotusblog.com/2022/06/justices-side-with-high-school-football-coach-who-prayed-on-the-field-with-students/ Well- SCOTUS ruled. It’s not the decision of anyone posting here. |
I don't think I've seen the SCOTUS referenced so many times in the religion forum before. That tells me exactly what I need to know about you. You're party and country before God. You hang on to your warm fuzzies about SCOTUS. As recent rulings have shown, things that have long been considered the law of the land can be overturned though it takes time. |
That’s because the SCOTUS is now a religious organization. RIP, America. |
At one time SCOTUS ruled on segregation, “separate but equal “ At one time SCOTUS ruled black people becoming citizens would be be a “parade of horribles”. At one time SCOTUS upheld 8-1 that businesses could discriminate based on race At one time SOCTUS ruled that gay sex could be illegal. To name a few. |
You pray to Allah every time you pray. Allah literally is the word for God. Literally the same god as yours. |
Dp. Ha! I had the exact same reaction to that post but figure that person wasn’t interested in knowing that. |
Muslims disagree with Christians on a number of things, including the Trinity, the nature of Christ, and the authority of the Bible. Christians believe Jesus is God, but the Quran is so opposed to this belief that it condemns Jesus worshipers to Hell ([Qur’an] 5.72). Christians and Jews share a Scripture. Christians and Muslims do not. Muslims do not recognize the Old or the New Testament. They judge the Bible muharraf, or “falsified.” Muslim Allah and the biblical Yahweh are contradictory and cannot refer to the same being. Allah comes from the Aramaic compound term “al-ilah,” which means “the god.” It is a generic term for the highest god of the people, and in Arabia it was in use for centuries before Muhammad. It was one of the 360 gods worshipped in the ka’aba in Mecca, and was the chief god for the Quraysh tribe, which was the tribe Muhammad belonged. Allah had three daughters, Al-At, Al-Uzza, and Al-Manat. Allah is a distant, remote being who reveals his will but not himself. It is impossible to know him in a personal way. In his absolute oneness there is unity but not trinity. To claim that Jesus is God’s son is the greatest of all sins in Islam and is known as “shirk.” Allah is also an arbitrary God and is said to deceive people, especially unbelievers. Even for the devout Muslim there is no guarantee of salvation because in his arbitrariness Allah may reject the believer’s good works and send him to hell. Even if one’s good works outweighed his bad works salvation is ultimately up to the Will of Allah, which is arbitrary. |