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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The US Supreme Court ruled 6 to 3 on Monday that a high school coach’s post-game prayers on a football field were in-bounds.

Joseph Kennedy’s prayers are protected by the First Amendment’s right to free speech and free exercise of religion, the court decided. The coach didn’t coerce any Bremerton, Washington, high school players into praying, so the school district was wrong to try to stop him from practicing his Christian faith.

“The Constitution neither mandates nor tolerates that kind of discrimination,” Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote for the conservative majority, citing a 1992 precedent. “Learning how to tolerate speech or prayer of all kinds is part of learning how to live in a pluralistic society,’ a trait of character essential to ‘a tolerant citizenry.’”

https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2022/april/praying-coach-scotus-kennedy-bremerton-schools.html

Atheists and anti-theists posting here are not able to be tolerant citizens. Go figure. It’s always the people who claim to be the most tolerant and accepting that are the least tolerant and accepting.

Christians have the right to pray in public. People who don’t believe in religion and prayer don’t have to pray, or be religious. Op, and others who wish they could take away this right-it’s not going to happen in our free society. You may wish to live in a country that limits freedom of speech and religion. You are out of luck in that regard in America.

As atheist troll above states- just don’t move your lips when a gang of praying Christians physically assault you by forcibly pulling you into a group prayer. God won’t hear your prayer if your lips don’t move. Also they can only see you if you move, so stand still and they can’t see you. Wear earth tones to blend into nature so you can flee if necessary and take refuge among the trees. Work on your cardio so if the praying Christians give chase, your endurance can outlast them. /s[/quote]

People in the position of power do not have the right to infringe on other people’s right to religion by making them feel compelled to pray a religion they doing believe it.

The second a coach is praying to Allah with the team is the moment the SCOTUS will change their ruling.[/quote]

SCOTUS has the right and duty.

No one is being forced to pray or be religious. SCOTUS is affirming the right Americans have to be religious and pray. You just don’t like it.

You can keep trying to push bigotry and hatred against Muslims as a little treat- but you are talking out your rear end.

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Students and players are forced to pray or compelled. Both violate the right to religion.

Even Kavanaugh stated that in his statement.

You would be okay if your child’s coach had them pray to Allah before/after a game?[/quote]

You are a lying troll who hates [b]freedom[/b].

You hate religious people and especially Catholics; you hate SCOTUS.

Nobody is forcing anyone to pray. Still lips troll disappeared. 
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This doesn't have anything  to do with Christianity you know.

And I'm not sure I don't hate the SCOTUS too. Looks like the dragged in a bunch of second-tier types in just to pay off their political pals. 
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Just keep your lips still and no prayer can hurt you. Muslim, Jewish, Christian- still lips will keep those prayers away from u and they can’t hurt u. U will be fine. [/quote]

So you agree that players are compelled to at least fake it.

You’d just stand on a prayer mat and go through the motions and not move your lips and you’d be comfortable doing that?[/quote]

No, I don’t agree that students are made to pray. Spectators are not made to pray. If a Muslim coach was praying, I’d respect his right to do so. I am not Muslim and don’t pray to Allah. But coach is welcome to do so. I would not stand on his prayer mat, that’s his prayer mat.

Where is a news source that states that football coaches and sports coaches are forcing athletes to pray?[/quote]

Again you clearly did not read Kavenaugh’s opinion where he states student would be compelled, they were in the court case, they worried about playing time.[/quote]

I did read that. A student said he didn’t pray with the coach, because he didn’t agree with the coach’s religious values- but he was still a starting football player because of his talent and athleticism. The player still played despite not praying with the coach.

The opinion also read that all athletes try to curry favor with the their head coaches, and not just through participation in prayer.

When Ben Rothelsberger was a high school athlete, he was not a starter. The head coach played his own son at quarterback. And his son was not as good as Ben-at all. Coaches start and play who they wish.

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Exactly Kavenaugh said that while one student may be so good that he feels he can skip the prayer and pray others on the bubble will be compelled to pray, which infringes on their right to religion. The same reason teachers can’t lead prayers.

The situation where coaches favor their son does not infringe on any constitutional rights and while that sucks it’s not against the constitution.[/quote]

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