prepping for cogat test .. is it cheating?
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Anonymous
I am firmly anti-prep and older kid had no issues getting in first round w/o it. Younger kid also did not prep and had scores well above the old county-wide standards, but not high enough by the new prepped local standards. Moving forward, I’d prep my kids, despite knowing it IS cheating the test and does not accurately reflect ability. FCPS is only encouraging more prepping and rendering these tests worthless. |
Anonymous
Great! You're one of the few, but there's nothing wrong with prep. At least 99% of the population feels this way or does it anyway. |
Anonymous
Your kids compete against others who prep. This is our reality. The prep war is on whether you accept it or not. |
Anonymous
That’s why there is an fcps norm. A norm amongst preppers, therefore a valid one. |
Anonymous
But it's not FCPS wide, it's "local building" and no one knows the magical number and then they pull out the "holistic" card and it's a real crap shoot as to who gets in. Some families are seeing the younger, more advanced sibling rejected while the less advanced older kid got in before the new black box approach. |
Anonymous
Nah. The change is only for the pool. Same committee is looking at applications as before. And same appeals process for the handful of should-have-been-admitteds. |
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Only you will know of its cheating OP. Perhaps you have an anxious kid who would benefit from having familiarity with the test format and question structure. In this case you would be helping your child accurately demonstrate their capabilities.
Conversely, perhaps prepping your kid will allow them to perform better than they would have otherwise. If they are good at the test but not actually good at the underlying skill or quality measured, you may be setting your child up to be placed higher than they deserve. Not only will they be taking a spot from a kid who deserves it more, you may be setting them up for failure. |
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Anonymous
The schools with a high percentage of parents who prep are the ones with in-pool test scores in the 140’s. The schools with middle class or high SES but are not focused in AAP are in the 130’s. The Title 1 schools are probably in the 120’s. The AAP or bust mentality is found at a few schools, Centers and the TJ obsessed sections of FCPS but a decent percentage of folks don’t prep. |
Anonymous
College Board conceded defeat and changed the name (but not the content in a relevant way) 20 years ago |
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Cheatiig children by educating them less and judging them by feral "natural" ability, is far worse than "cheating" a test by studying math, logic, and vocabulary.
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Anonymous
| It won’t matter eventually - once every school has level 4 they will slowly move to clustering and no more centers. Then no more aap at middle school. I say 10 years. |
Anonymous
I say we go retro and revert to "tracking" where all the LIV qualified kids are in the same class (or multiple classes if there are more than 20 per school). That would retain the neighborhood school concept but allow teachers to enhance and accelerate for the more advanced group. The current process is inefficient and unfair and gives too much weight to race components when that isn't necessarily a deterrent to high test scores. |
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Honestly, the ones who think prepping is cheating are the same ones who think their kids are genius. If their kids could not get in, it's because other lesser kids' prepping/cheating. If their kids got in, it's proven that the kids are genius due to non-prepping.
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Anonymous
Honestly, that’s not it. The school specifically says not to cheat — I mean, prep— bc it compromises the integrity of the test. So we don’t cheat bc we have a moral compass and follow the recommendations from the school. |