MCPS Reaches Agreement with MCEA to Raise Teachers' Wages

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Anonymous wrote:60k starting salary is nothing to sneeze at

Over time you still lose out because there aren't any promotions but that is a very generous starting salary.

In most industries employees get pay increases based on the subjective assessments of their supervisors, but teachers' unions don't want that.

I work in tech. I get quarterly raises that have nothing to do with "subjective assessments" or even merit. The outrage people in other industries give teachers is so pathetic.

My spouse works in tech too. There are no raises and you have to job jump for more money.

Because your spouse works in tech, their experience is the end all? You're the authority on every tech job ever? Wow! I had no idea I was in the presence of such genius! DP, but I also work in tech. My own firsthand experience is yes, we get raises throughout the year AND we also job jump. Imagine that. Someone else with a different experience than you. Hard to imagine with such a narrow world view but try.

Saying you work tech and that it is normal to get regular raises means nothing. My spouse had had multiple jobs and none gave raises like that. That's great you get that but it’s not normal.

I mean, hi. DP here in tech. Raises are absolutely the norm. Don’t know what to tell ya. You telling us your spouse doesn’t get raises means nothing too. It’s irrelevant to this thread but you might want to have a chat with them because what they are telling you isn’t true.

No they are not the norm and my spouse has had multiple jobs. In some jobs, the salary goes up and down every year due to RSU's. I know they are telling me the truth as I manage the money and do the taxes.

A simple Google search about tech job raises would do you wonders. "In 2021, the median salary for IT pros at large enterprises was $100,022, and $95,681 for those at mid-sized firms. In 2022, however, merit increases for IT pros lept to 5.61%, with the median salary for all IT professionals rising from $95,845 to $101,323. The median salary for an IT executive rose to $180,000." Followed by article after article about tech raises. But sure, you keep doing your spouses finances and using that to claim to be an expert. Sounds like your spouse might not be good at their job. Ever think of that?

The real point is, teachers' wages don't match their education. Most teachers have one or two masters and make under $100k and this is considered normal. It's an insult.

Having multiple master's degrees in basketweaving from Towson State doesn't entitle anyone to riches. Further, MCPS pay is generous especially when you consider most people in the private sector work 250+ days/year whereas teachers work 180-leave.

How many times must someone on this message board explain to you how contracts work? Teachers are paid for the days they work. They are not paid for summer. They are contracted employees for 180 (and some change) days. JUST like SO many other professions in the world, but no one hears you complaining about those contracted employees. My wife works for 6 months a year and makes $120k for those six months. I'm not complaining she has the other six months off. No sane person really would,but I love how ignorant you are while trying to disparage teachers with your lame "basketweaving" quote. Grow up. Also, learn how contracts work.

DP. Stop comparing teacher salaries to full-year salaries in other professions. Then people will stop pointing out that teachers aren’t full-year employees. Pretty simple.

Lol, you're an idiot. I'm so embarrassed for you right now.

DP. You're a bully. This is not a decent or appropriate way to interact with people online or in person. Be better.

+1 Thank you. I wasn't following their comment either as I felt you were very clear in your explanation. Yes. Most teachers are on a 10-month contract. We don't even get our pay split by MCPS. Pay starts in Late Sept/early October and ends in early July. Every year.

Right...you replied less than 10 seconds from the "other" poster. Clearly, you are the same human being, supporting yourself on a message board. Pretty sad.

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Anonymous wrote:60k starting salary is nothing to sneeze at

Over time you still lose out because there aren't any promotions but that is a very generous starting salary.

In most industries employees get pay increases based on the subjective assessments of their supervisors, but teachers' unions don't want that.

I work in tech. I get quarterly raises that have nothing to do with "subjective assessments" or even merit. The outrage people in other industries give teachers is so pathetic.

My spouse works in tech too. There are no raises and you have to job jump for more money.

Because your spouse works in tech, their experience is the end all? You're the authority on every tech job ever? Wow! I had no idea I was in the presence of such genius! DP, but I also work in tech. My own firsthand experience is yes, we get raises throughout the year AND we also job jump. Imagine that. Someone else with a different experience than you. Hard to imagine with such a narrow world view but try.

Saying you work tech and that it is normal to get regular raises means nothing. My spouse had had multiple jobs and none gave raises like that. That's great you get that but it’s not normal.

I mean, hi. DP here in tech. Raises are absolutely the norm. Don’t know what to tell ya. You telling us your spouse doesn’t get raises means nothing too. It’s irrelevant to this thread but you might want to have a chat with them because what they are telling you isn’t true.

No they are not the norm and my spouse has had multiple jobs. In some jobs, the salary goes up and down every year due to RSU's. I know they are telling me the truth as I manage the money and do the taxes.

A simple Google search about tech job raises would do you wonders. "In 2021, the median salary for IT pros at large enterprises was $100,022, and $95,681 for those at mid-sized firms. In 2022, however, merit increases for IT pros lept to 5.61%, with the median salary for all IT professionals rising from $95,845 to $101,323. The median salary for an IT executive rose to $180,000." Followed by article after article about tech raises. But sure, you keep doing your spouses finances and using that to claim to be an expert. Sounds like your spouse might not be good at their job. Ever think of that?

The real point is, teachers' wages don't match their education. Most teachers have one or two masters and make under $100k and this is considered normal. It's an insult.

Having multiple master's degrees in basketweaving from Towson State doesn't entitle anyone to riches. Further, MCPS pay is generous especially when you consider most people in the private sector work 250+ days/year whereas teachers work 180-leave.

How many times must someone on this message board explain to you how contracts work? Teachers are paid for the days they work. They are not paid for summer. They are contracted employees for 180 (and some change) days. JUST like SO many other professions in the world, but no one hears you complaining about those contracted employees. My wife works for 6 months a year and makes $120k for those six months. I'm not complaining she has the other six months off. No sane person really would,but I love how ignorant you are while trying to disparage teachers with your lame "basketweaving" quote. Grow up. Also, learn how contracts work.

DP. Stop comparing teacher salaries to full-year salaries in other professions. Then people will stop pointing out that teachers aren’t full-year employees. Pretty simple.

Lol, you're an idiot. I'm so embarrassed for you right now.

DP. You're a bully. This is not a decent or appropriate way to interact with people online or in person. Be better.

+1 Thank you. I wasn't following their comment either as I felt you were very clear in your explanation. Yes. Most teachers are on a 10-month contract. We don't even get our pay split by MCPS. Pay starts in Late Sept/early October and ends in early July. Every year.

Right...you replied less than 10 seconds from the "other" poster. Clearly, you are the same human being, supporting yourself on a message board. Pretty sad.

What? I was reading the whole thread and happened to catch the comment. Wow! Are you ok?

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Anonymous wrote:60k starting salary is nothing to sneeze at

Over time you still lose out because there aren't any promotions but that is a very generous starting salary.

In most industries employees get pay increases based on the subjective assessments of their supervisors, but teachers' unions don't want that.

I work in tech. I get quarterly raises that have nothing to do with "subjective assessments" or even merit. The outrage people in other industries give teachers is so pathetic.

My spouse works in tech too. There are no raises and you have to job jump for more money.

Because your spouse works in tech, their experience is the end all? You're the authority on every tech job ever? Wow! I had no idea I was in the presence of such genius! DP, but I also work in tech. My own firsthand experience is yes, we get raises throughout the year AND we also job jump. Imagine that. Someone else with a different experience than you. Hard to imagine with such a narrow world view but try.

Saying you work tech and that it is normal to get regular raises means nothing. My spouse had had multiple jobs and none gave raises like that. That's great you get that but it’s not normal.

I mean, hi. DP here in tech. Raises are absolutely the norm. Don’t know what to tell ya. You telling us your spouse doesn’t get raises means nothing too. It’s irrelevant to this thread but you might want to have a chat with them because what they are telling you isn’t true.

No they are not the norm and my spouse has had multiple jobs. In some jobs, the salary goes up and down every year due to RSU's. I know they are telling me the truth as I manage the money and do the taxes.

A simple Google search about tech job raises would do you wonders. "In 2021, the median salary for IT pros at large enterprises was $100,022, and $95,681 for those at mid-sized firms. In 2022, however, merit increases for IT pros lept to 5.61%, with the median salary for all IT professionals rising from $95,845 to $101,323. The median salary for an IT executive rose to $180,000." Followed by article after article about tech raises. But sure, you keep doing your spouses finances and using that to claim to be an expert. Sounds like your spouse might not be good at their job. Ever think of that?

The real point is, teachers' wages don't match their education. Most teachers have one or two masters and make under $100k and this is considered normal. It's an insult.

Having multiple master's degrees in basketweaving from Towson State doesn't entitle anyone to riches. Further, MCPS pay is generous especially when you consider most people in the private sector work 250+ days/year whereas teachers work 180-leave.

How many times must someone on this message board explain to you how contracts work? Teachers are paid for the days they work. They are not paid for summer. They are contracted employees for 180 (and some change) days. JUST like SO many other professions in the world, but no one hears you complaining about those contracted employees. My wife works for 6 months a year and makes $120k for those six months. I'm not complaining she has the other six months off. No sane person really would,but I love how ignorant you are while trying to disparage teachers with your lame "basketweaving" quote. Grow up. Also, learn how contracts work.

DP. Stop comparing teacher salaries to full-year salaries in other professions. Then people will stop pointing out that teachers aren’t full-year employees. Pretty simple.

Lol, you're an idiot. I'm so embarrassed for you right now.

DP. You're a bully. This is not a decent or appropriate way to interact with people online or in person. Be better.

+1 Thank you. I wasn't following their comment either as I felt you were very clear in your explanation. Yes. Most teachers are on a 10-month contract. We don't even get our pay split by MCPS. Pay starts in Late Sept/early October and ends in early July. Every year.

Right...you replied less than 10 seconds from the "other" poster. Clearly, you are the same human being, supporting yourself on a message board. Pretty sad.

What? I was reading the whole thread and happened to catch the comment. Wow! Are you ok?

DP, but *eyeroll* what a middle school zinger you got there! You really told them! You just admitted supporting a poster who didn’t even correctly comprehend the post they were replying to. The maze of ignorance is typical DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:60k starting salary is nothing to sneeze at

Over time you still lose out because there aren't any promotions but that is a very generous starting salary.

In most industries employees get pay increases based on the subjective assessments of their supervisors, but teachers' unions don't want that.

I work in tech. I get quarterly raises that have nothing to do with "subjective assessments" or even merit. The outrage people in other industries give teachers is so pathetic.

My spouse works in tech too. There are no raises and you have to job jump for more money.

Because your spouse works in tech, their experience is the end all? You're the authority on every tech job ever? Wow! I had no idea I was in the presence of such genius! DP, but I also work in tech. My own firsthand experience is yes, we get raises throughout the year AND we also job jump. Imagine that. Someone else with a different experience than you. Hard to imagine with such a narrow world view but try.

Saying you work tech and that it is normal to get regular raises means nothing. My spouse had had multiple jobs and none gave raises like that. That's great you get that but it’s not normal.

I mean, hi. DP here in tech. Raises are absolutely the norm. Don’t know what to tell ya. You telling us your spouse doesn’t get raises means nothing too. It’s irrelevant to this thread but you might want to have a chat with them because what they are telling you isn’t true.

No they are not the norm and my spouse has had multiple jobs. In some jobs, the salary goes up and down every year due to RSU's. I know they are telling me the truth as I manage the money and do the taxes.

A simple Google search about tech job raises would do you wonders. "In 2021, the median salary for IT pros at large enterprises was $100,022, and $95,681 for those at mid-sized firms. In 2022, however, merit increases for IT pros lept to 5.61%, with the median salary for all IT professionals rising from $95,845 to $101,323. The median salary for an IT executive rose to $180,000." Followed by article after article about tech raises. But sure, you keep doing your spouses finances and using that to claim to be an expert. Sounds like your spouse might not be good at their job. Ever think of that?

The real point is, teachers' wages don't match their education. Most teachers have one or two masters and make under $100k and this is considered normal. It's an insult.

Having multiple master's degrees in basketweaving from Towson State doesn't entitle anyone to riches. Further, MCPS pay is generous especially when you consider most people in the private sector work 250+ days/year whereas teachers work 180-leave.

How many times must someone on this message board explain to you how contracts work? Teachers are paid for the days they work. They are not paid for summer. They are contracted employees for 180 (and some change) days. JUST like SO many other professions in the world, but no one hears you complaining about those contracted employees. My wife works for 6 months a year and makes $120k for those six months. I'm not complaining she has the other six months off. No sane person really would,but I love how ignorant you are while trying to disparage teachers with your lame "basketweaving" quote. Grow up. Also, learn how contracts work.

DP. Stop comparing teacher salaries to full-year salaries in other professions. Then people will stop pointing out that teachers aren’t full-year employees. Pretty simple.

Lol, you're an idiot. I'm so embarrassed for you right now.

DP. You're a bully. This is not a decent or appropriate way to interact with people online or in person. Be better.

+1 Thank you. I wasn't following their comment either as I felt you were very clear in your explanation. Yes. Most teachers are on a 10-month contract. We don't even get our pay split by MCPS. Pay starts in Late Sept/early October and ends in early July. Every year.

Right...you replied less than 10 seconds from the "other" poster. Clearly, you are the same human being, supporting yourself on a message board. Pretty sad.

What? I was reading the whole thread and happened to catch the comment. Wow! Are you ok?

DP, but *eyeroll* what a middle school zinger you got there! You really told them! You just admitted supporting a poster who didn’t even correctly comprehend the post they were replying to. The maze of ignorance is typical DCUM.

Well with a master’s in basket weaving I just can’t compete with you, dear DP. All the best. Well, I’m off to weave some beautiful underwater creations! Hope your eye gets better.

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Anonymous wrote:60k starting salary is nothing to sneeze at

Over time you still lose out because there aren't any promotions but that is a very generous starting salary.

In most industries employees get pay increases based on the subjective assessments of their supervisors, but teachers' unions don't want that.

I work in tech. I get quarterly raises that have nothing to do with "subjective assessments" or even merit. The outrage people in other industries give teachers is so pathetic.

My spouse works in tech too. There are no raises and you have to job jump for more money.

Because your spouse works in tech, their experience is the end all? You're the authority on every tech job ever? Wow! I had no idea I was in the presence of such genius! DP, but I also work in tech. My own firsthand experience is yes, we get raises throughout the year AND we also job jump. Imagine that. Someone else with a different experience than you. Hard to imagine with such a narrow world view but try.

Saying you work tech and that it is normal to get regular raises means nothing. My spouse had had multiple jobs and none gave raises like that. That's great you get that but it’s not normal.

I mean, hi. DP here in tech. Raises are absolutely the norm. Don’t know what to tell ya. You telling us your spouse doesn’t get raises means nothing too. It’s irrelevant to this thread but you might want to have a chat with them because what they are telling you isn’t true.

No they are not the norm and my spouse has had multiple jobs. In some jobs, the salary goes up and down every year due to RSU's. I know they are telling me the truth as I manage the money and do the taxes.

A simple Google search about tech job raises would do you wonders. "In 2021, the median salary for IT pros at large enterprises was $100,022, and $95,681 for those at mid-sized firms. In 2022, however, merit increases for IT pros lept to 5.61%, with the median salary for all IT professionals rising from $95,845 to $101,323. The median salary for an IT executive rose to $180,000." Followed by article after article about tech raises. But sure, you keep doing your spouses finances and using that to claim to be an expert. Sounds like your spouse might not be good at their job. Ever think of that?

The real point is, teachers' wages don't match their education. Most teachers have one or two masters and make under $100k and this is considered normal. It's an insult.

So- what would you say is a fair wage then? Keep in mind there are 14,000 MCPS teachers.

So?

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Anonymous wrote:60k starting salary is nothing to sneeze at

Over time you still lose out because there aren't any promotions but that is a very generous starting salary.

In most industries employees get pay increases based on the subjective assessments of their supervisors, but teachers' unions don't want that.

I work in tech. I get quarterly raises that have nothing to do with "subjective assessments" or even merit. The outrage people in other industries give teachers is so pathetic.

My spouse works in tech too. There are no raises and you have to job jump for more money.

Because your spouse works in tech, their experience is the end all? You're the authority on every tech job ever? Wow! I had no idea I was in the presence of such genius! DP, but I also work in tech. My own firsthand experience is yes, we get raises throughout the year AND we also job jump. Imagine that. Someone else with a different experience than you. Hard to imagine with such a narrow world view but try.

Saying you work tech and that it is normal to get regular raises means nothing. My spouse had had multiple jobs and none gave raises like that. That's great you get that but it’s not normal.

I mean, hi. DP here in tech. Raises are absolutely the norm. Don’t know what to tell ya. You telling us your spouse doesn’t get raises means nothing too. It’s irrelevant to this thread but you might want to have a chat with them because what they are telling you isn’t true.

No they are not the norm and my spouse has had multiple jobs. In some jobs, the salary goes up and down every year due to RSU's. I know they are telling me the truth as I manage the money and do the taxes.

A simple Google search about tech job raises would do you wonders. "In 2021, the median salary for IT pros at large enterprises was $100,022, and $95,681 for those at mid-sized firms. In 2022, however, merit increases for IT pros lept to 5.61%, with the median salary for all IT professionals rising from $95,845 to $101,323. The median salary for an IT executive rose to $180,000." Followed by article after article about tech raises. But sure, you keep doing your spouses finances and using that to claim to be an expert. Sounds like your spouse might not be good at their job. Ever think of that?

The real point is, teachers' wages don't match their education. Most teachers have one or two masters and make under $100k and this is considered normal. It's an insult.

Having multiple master's degrees in basketweaving from Towson State doesn't entitle anyone to riches. Further, MCPS pay is generous especially when you consider most people in the private sector work 250+ days/year whereas teachers work 180-leave.

How many times must someone on this message board explain to you how contracts work? Teachers are paid for the days they work. They are not paid for summer. They are contracted employees for 180 (and some change) days. JUST like SO many other professions in the world, but no one hears you complaining about those contracted employees. My wife works for 6 months a year and makes $120k for those six months. I'm not complaining she has the other six months off. No sane person really would,but I love how ignorant you are while trying to disparage teachers with your lame "basketweaving" quote. Grow up. Also, learn how contracts work.

DP. Stop comparing teacher salaries to full-year salaries in other professions. Then people will stop pointing out that teachers aren’t full-year employees. Pretty simple.

Lol, you're an idiot. I'm so embarrassed for you right now.

DP. You're a bully. This is not a decent or appropriate way to interact with people online or in person. Be better.

Thanks for your input, hall monitor, but nobody voted for you. DP

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Anonymous wrote:60k starting salary is nothing to sneeze at

Over time you still lose out because there aren't any promotions but that is a very generous starting salary.

In most industries employees get pay increases based on the subjective assessments of their supervisors, but teachers' unions don't want that.

I work in tech. I get quarterly raises that have nothing to do with "subjective assessments" or even merit. The outrage people in other industries give teachers is so pathetic.

My spouse works in tech too. There are no raises and you have to job jump for more money.

Because your spouse works in tech, their experience is the end all? You're the authority on every tech job ever? Wow! I had no idea I was in the presence of such genius! DP, but I also work in tech. My own firsthand experience is yes, we get raises throughout the year AND we also job jump. Imagine that. Someone else with a different experience than you. Hard to imagine with such a narrow world view but try.

Saying you work tech and that it is normal to get regular raises means nothing. My spouse had had multiple jobs and none gave raises like that. That's great you get that but it’s not normal.

I mean, hi. DP here in tech. Raises are absolutely the norm. Don’t know what to tell ya. You telling us your spouse doesn’t get raises means nothing too. It’s irrelevant to this thread but you might want to have a chat with them because what they are telling you isn’t true.

No they are not the norm and my spouse has had multiple jobs. In some jobs, the salary goes up and down every year due to RSU's. I know they are telling me the truth as I manage the money and do the taxes.

A simple Google search about tech job raises would do you wonders. "In 2021, the median salary for IT pros at large enterprises was $100,022, and $95,681 for those at mid-sized firms. In 2022, however, merit increases for IT pros lept to 5.61%, with the median salary for all IT professionals rising from $95,845 to $101,323. The median salary for an IT executive rose to $180,000." Followed by article after article about tech raises. But sure, you keep doing your spouses finances and using that to claim to be an expert. Sounds like your spouse might not be good at their job. Ever think of that?

The real point is, teachers' wages don't match their education. Most teachers have one or two masters and make under $100k and this is considered normal. It's an insult.

Having multiple master's degrees in basketweaving from Towson State doesn't entitle anyone to riches. Further, MCPS pay is generous especially when you consider most people in the private sector work 250+ days/year whereas teachers work 180-leave.

How many times must someone on this message board explain to you how contracts work? Teachers are paid for the days they work. They are not paid for summer. They are contracted employees for 180 (and some change) days. JUST like SO many other professions in the world, but no one hears you complaining about those contracted employees. My wife works for 6 months a year and makes $120k for those six months. I'm not complaining she has the other six months off. No sane person really would,but I love how ignorant you are while trying to disparage teachers with your lame "basketweaving" quote. Grow up. Also, learn how contracts work.

DP. Stop comparing teacher salaries to full-year salaries in other professions. Then people will stop pointing out that teachers aren’t full-year employees. Pretty simple.

Lol, you're an idiot. I'm so embarrassed for you right now.

DP. You're a bully. This is not a decent or appropriate way to interact with people online or in person. Be better.

+1 Thank you. I wasn't following their comment either as I felt you were very clear in your explanation. Yes. Most teachers are on a 10-month contract. We don't even get our pay split by MCPS. Pay starts in Late Sept/early October and ends in early July. Every year.

Right...you replied less than 10 seconds from the "other" poster. Clearly, you are the same human being, supporting yourself on a message board. Pretty sad.

What? I was reading the whole thread and happened to catch the comment. Wow! Are you ok?

DP, but *eyeroll* what a middle school zinger you got there! You really told them! You just admitted supporting a poster who didn’t even correctly comprehend the post they were replying to. The maze of ignorance is typical DCUM.

Well with a master’s in basket weaving I just can’t compete with you, dear DP. All the best. Well, I’m off to weave some beautiful underwater creations! Hope your eye gets better.

Gross…you’re one of those people who spends hours crafting lame insults then spend time patting yourself on the back. I have a doctorate in physics… but thanks. I’m not a teacher but I support teachers. Do better.

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Anonymous wrote:60k starting salary is nothing to sneeze at

Over time you still lose out because there aren't any promotions but that is a very generous starting salary.

In most industries employees get pay increases based on the subjective assessments of their supervisors, but teachers' unions don't want that.

I work in tech. I get quarterly raises that have nothing to do with "subjective assessments" or even merit. The outrage people in other industries give teachers is so pathetic.

My spouse works in tech too. There are no raises and you have to job jump for more money.

Because your spouse works in tech, their experience is the end all? You're the authority on every tech job ever? Wow! I had no idea I was in the presence of such genius! DP, but I also work in tech. My own firsthand experience is yes, we get raises throughout the year AND we also job jump. Imagine that. Someone else with a different experience than you. Hard to imagine with such a narrow world view but try.

Saying you work tech and that it is normal to get regular raises means nothing. My spouse had had multiple jobs and none gave raises like that. That's great you get that but it’s not normal.

I mean, hi. DP here in tech. Raises are absolutely the norm. Don’t know what to tell ya. You telling us your spouse doesn’t get raises means nothing too. It’s irrelevant to this thread but you might want to have a chat with them because what they are telling you isn’t true.

No they are not the norm and my spouse has had multiple jobs. In some jobs, the salary goes up and down every year due to RSU's. I know they are telling me the truth as I manage the money and do the taxes.

A simple Google search about tech job raises would do you wonders. "In 2021, the median salary for IT pros at large enterprises was $100,022, and $95,681 for those at mid-sized firms. In 2022, however, merit increases for IT pros lept to 5.61%, with the median salary for all IT professionals rising from $95,845 to $101,323. The median salary for an IT executive rose to $180,000." Followed by article after article about tech raises. But sure, you keep doing your spouses finances and using that to claim to be an expert. Sounds like your spouse might not be good at their job. Ever think of that?

The real point is, teachers' wages don't match their education. Most teachers have one or two masters and make under $100k and this is considered normal. It's an insult.

Having multiple master's degrees in basketweaving from Towson State doesn't entitle anyone to riches. Further, MCPS pay is generous especially when you consider most people in the private sector work 250+ days/year whereas teachers work 180-leave.

How many times must someone on this message board explain to you how contracts work? Teachers are paid for the days they work. They are not paid for summer. They are contracted employees for 180 (and some change) days. JUST like SO many other professions in the world, but no one hears you complaining about those contracted employees. My wife works for 6 months a year and makes $120k for those six months. I'm not complaining she has the other six months off. No sane person really would,but I love how ignorant you are while trying to disparage teachers with your lame "basketweaving" quote. Grow up. Also, learn how contracts work.

DP. Stop comparing teacher salaries to full-year salaries in other professions. Then people will stop pointing out that teachers aren’t full-year employees. Pretty simple.

Lol, you're an idiot. I'm so embarrassed for you right now.

DP. You're a bully. This is not a decent or appropriate way to interact with people online or in person. Be better.

+1 Thank you. I wasn't following their comment either as I felt you were very clear in your explanation. Yes. Most teachers are on a 10-month contract. We don't even get our pay split by MCPS. Pay starts in Late Sept/early October and ends in early July. Every year.

Right...you replied less than 10 seconds from the "other" poster. Clearly, you are the same human being, supporting yourself on a message board. Pretty sad.

What? I was reading the whole thread and happened to catch the comment. Wow! Are you ok?

DP, but *eyeroll* what a middle school zinger you got there! You really told them! You just admitted supporting a poster who didn’t even correctly comprehend the post they were replying to. The maze of ignorance is typical DCUM.

Well with a master’s in basket weaving I just can’t compete with you, dear DP. All the best. Well, I’m off to weave some beautiful underwater creations! Hope your eye gets better.

You don’t even know where to properly place the comma in masters degree (hint: there isn’t one) cringe

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Anonymous wrote:60k starting salary is nothing to sneeze at

Over time you still lose out because there aren't any promotions but that is a very generous starting salary.

In most industries employees get pay increases based on the subjective assessments of their supervisors, but teachers' unions don't want that.

I work in tech. I get quarterly raises that have nothing to do with "subjective assessments" or even merit. The outrage people in other industries give teachers is so pathetic.

My spouse works in tech too. There are no raises and you have to job jump for more money.

Because your spouse works in tech, their experience is the end all? You're the authority on every tech job ever? Wow! I had no idea I was in the presence of such genius! DP, but I also work in tech. My own firsthand experience is yes, we get raises throughout the year AND we also job jump. Imagine that. Someone else with a different experience than you. Hard to imagine with such a narrow world view but try.

Saying you work tech and that it is normal to get regular raises means nothing. My spouse had had multiple jobs and none gave raises like that. That's great you get that but it’s not normal.

I mean, hi. DP here in tech. Raises are absolutely the norm. Don’t know what to tell ya. You telling us your spouse doesn’t get raises means nothing too. It’s irrelevant to this thread but you might want to have a chat with them because what they are telling you isn’t true.

No they are not the norm and my spouse has had multiple jobs. In some jobs, the salary goes up and down every year due to RSU's. I know they are telling me the truth as I manage the money and do the taxes.

A simple Google search about tech job raises would do you wonders. "In 2021, the median salary for IT pros at large enterprises was $100,022, and $95,681 for those at mid-sized firms. In 2022, however, merit increases for IT pros lept to 5.61%, with the median salary for all IT professionals rising from $95,845 to $101,323. The median salary for an IT executive rose to $180,000." Followed by article after article about tech raises. But sure, you keep doing your spouses finances and using that to claim to be an expert. Sounds like your spouse might not be good at their job. Ever think of that?

The real point is, teachers' wages don't match their education. Most teachers have one or two masters and make under $100k and this is considered normal. It's an insult.

Having multiple master's degrees in basketweaving from Towson State doesn't entitle anyone to riches. Further, MCPS pay is generous especially when you consider most people in the private sector work 250+ days/year whereas teachers work 180-leave.

How many times must someone on this message board explain to you how contracts work? Teachers are paid for the days they work. They are not paid for summer. They are contracted employees for 180 (and some change) days. JUST like SO many other professions in the world, but no one hears you complaining about those contracted employees. My wife works for 6 months a year and makes $120k for those six months. I'm not complaining she has the other six months off. No sane person really would,but I love how ignorant you are while trying to disparage teachers with your lame "basketweaving" quote. Grow up. Also, learn how contracts work.

DP. Stop comparing teacher salaries to full-year salaries in other professions. Then people will stop pointing out that teachers aren’t full-year employees. Pretty simple.

Lol, you're an idiot. I'm so embarrassed for you right now.

DP. You're a bully. This is not a decent or appropriate way to interact with people online or in person. Be better.

+1 Thank you. I wasn't following their comment either as I felt you were very clear in your explanation. Yes. Most teachers are on a 10-month contract. We don't even get our pay split by MCPS. Pay starts in Late Sept/early October and ends in early July. Every year.

Right...you replied less than 10 seconds from the "other" poster. Clearly, you are the same human being, supporting yourself on a message board. Pretty sad.

What? I was reading the whole thread and happened to catch the comment. Wow! Are you ok?

DP, but *eyeroll* what a middle school zinger you got there! You really told them! You just admitted supporting a poster who didn’t even correctly comprehend the post they were replying to. The maze of ignorance is typical DCUM.

Well with a master’s in basket weaving I just can’t compete with you, dear DP. All the best. Well, I’m off to weave some beautiful underwater creations! Hope your eye gets better.

You don’t even know where to properly place the comma in masters degree (hint: there isn’t one) cringe

Was supposed to be satire if you couldn’t tell.

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Anonymous wrote:60k starting salary is nothing to sneeze at

Over time you still lose out because there aren't any promotions but that is a very generous starting salary.

In most industries employees get pay increases based on the subjective assessments of their supervisors, but teachers' unions don't want that.

I work in tech. I get quarterly raises that have nothing to do with "subjective assessments" or even merit. The outrage people in other industries give teachers is so pathetic.

My spouse works in tech too. There are no raises and you have to job jump for more money.

Because your spouse works in tech, their experience is the end all? You're the authority on every tech job ever? Wow! I had no idea I was in the presence of such genius! DP, but I also work in tech. My own firsthand experience is yes, we get raises throughout the year AND we also job jump. Imagine that. Someone else with a different experience than you. Hard to imagine with such a narrow world view but try.

Saying you work tech and that it is normal to get regular raises means nothing. My spouse had had multiple jobs and none gave raises like that. That's great you get that but it’s not normal.

I mean, hi. DP here in tech. Raises are absolutely the norm. Don’t know what to tell ya. You telling us your spouse doesn’t get raises means nothing too. It’s irrelevant to this thread but you might want to have a chat with them because what they are telling you isn’t true.

No they are not the norm and my spouse has had multiple jobs. In some jobs, the salary goes up and down every year due to RSU's. I know they are telling me the truth as I manage the money and do the taxes.

A simple Google search about tech job raises would do you wonders. "In 2021, the median salary for IT pros at large enterprises was $100,022, and $95,681 for those at mid-sized firms. In 2022, however, merit increases for IT pros lept to 5.61%, with the median salary for all IT professionals rising from $95,845 to $101,323. The median salary for an IT executive rose to $180,000." Followed by article after article about tech raises. But sure, you keep doing your spouses finances and using that to claim to be an expert. Sounds like your spouse might not be good at their job. Ever think of that?

The real point is, teachers' wages don't match their education. Most teachers have one or two masters and make under $100k and this is considered normal. It's an insult.

Having multiple master's degrees in basketweaving from Towson State doesn't entitle anyone to riches. Further, MCPS pay is generous especially when you consider most people in the private sector work 250+ days/year whereas teachers work 180-leave.

How many times must someone on this message board explain to you how contracts work? Teachers are paid for the days they work. They are not paid for summer. They are contracted employees for 180 (and some change) days. JUST like SO many other professions in the world, but no one hears you complaining about those contracted employees. My wife works for 6 months a year and makes $120k for those six months. I'm not complaining she has the other six months off. No sane person really would,but I love how ignorant you are while trying to disparage teachers with your lame "basketweaving" quote. Grow up. Also, learn how contracts work.

DP. Stop comparing teacher salaries to full-year salaries in other professions. Then people will stop pointing out that teachers aren’t full-year employees. Pretty simple.

Lol, you're an idiot. I'm so embarrassed for you right now.

DP. You're a bully. This is not a decent or appropriate way to interact with people online or in person. Be better.

Thanks for your input, hall monitor, but nobody voted for you. DP

DCUM don't need no stinkin' hall monitors!

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Anonymous wrote:60k starting salary is nothing to sneeze at

Over time you still lose out because there aren't any promotions but that is a very generous starting salary.

In most industries employees get pay increases based on the subjective assessments of their supervisors, but teachers' unions don't want that.

I work in tech. I get quarterly raises that have nothing to do with "subjective assessments" or even merit. The outrage people in other industries give teachers is so pathetic.

My spouse works in tech too. There are no raises and you have to job jump for more money.

Because your spouse works in tech, their experience is the end all? You're the authority on every tech job ever? Wow! I had no idea I was in the presence of such genius! DP, but I also work in tech. My own firsthand experience is yes, we get raises throughout the year AND we also job jump. Imagine that. Someone else with a different experience than you. Hard to imagine with such a narrow world view but try.

Saying you work tech and that it is normal to get regular raises means nothing. My spouse had had multiple jobs and none gave raises like that. That's great you get that but it’s not normal.

I mean, hi. DP here in tech. Raises are absolutely the norm. Don’t know what to tell ya. You telling us your spouse doesn’t get raises means nothing too. It’s irrelevant to this thread but you might want to have a chat with them because what they are telling you isn’t true.

No they are not the norm and my spouse has had multiple jobs. In some jobs, the salary goes up and down every year due to RSU's. I know they are telling me the truth as I manage the money and do the taxes.

A simple Google search about tech job raises would do you wonders. "In 2021, the median salary for IT pros at large enterprises was $100,022, and $95,681 for those at mid-sized firms. In 2022, however, merit increases for IT pros lept to 5.61%, with the median salary for all IT professionals rising from $95,845 to $101,323. The median salary for an IT executive rose to $180,000." Followed by article after article about tech raises. But sure, you keep doing your spouses finances and using that to claim to be an expert. Sounds like your spouse might not be good at their job. Ever think of that?

The real point is, teachers' wages don't match their education. Most teachers have one or two masters and make under $100k and this is considered normal. It's an insult.

Having multiple master's degrees in basketweaving from Towson State doesn't entitle anyone to riches. Further, MCPS pay is generous especially when you consider most people in the private sector work 250+ days/year whereas teachers work 180-leave.

How many times must someone on this message board explain to you how contracts work? Teachers are paid for the days they work. They are not paid for summer. They are contracted employees for 180 (and some change) days. JUST like SO many other professions in the world, but no one hears you complaining about those contracted employees. My wife works for 6 months a year and makes $120k for those six months. I'm not complaining she has the other six months off. No sane person really would,but I love how ignorant you are while trying to disparage teachers with your lame "basketweaving" quote. Grow up. Also, learn how contracts work.

DP. Stop comparing teacher salaries to full-year salaries in other professions. Then people will stop pointing out that teachers aren’t full-year employees. Pretty simple.

Lol, you're an idiot. I'm so embarrassed for you right now.

DP. You're a bully. This is not a decent or appropriate way to interact with people online or in person. Be better.

+1 Thank you. I wasn't following their comment either as I felt you were very clear in your explanation. Yes. Most teachers are on a 10-month contract. We don't even get our pay split by MCPS. Pay starts in Late Sept/early October and ends in early July. Every year.

Right...you replied less than 10 seconds from the "other" poster. Clearly, you are the same human being, supporting yourself on a message board. Pretty sad.

What? I was reading the whole thread and happened to catch the comment. Wow! Are you ok?

DP, but *eyeroll* what a middle school zinger you got there! You really told them! You just admitted supporting a poster who didn’t even correctly comprehend the post they were replying to. The maze of ignorance is typical DCUM.

Well with a master’s in basket weaving I just can’t compete with you, dear DP. All the best. Well, I’m off to weave some beautiful underwater creations! Hope your eye gets better.

You don’t even know where to properly place the comma in masters degree (hint: there isn’t one) cringe

Tweet! Illegal use of grammar policing!

Put yourself on timeout for a bit. (hint: the PP didn't use a comma in masters degree and the apostrophe they used is perfectly acceptable.)

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I'll bite. I'm not a teacher but my husband is. I have a masters and I'm about 7 years in. Last year I made 195k. Do the math yourself.

So is the math that teachers with that experience and education level should make somewhere around 195k? Thats a senior manager level in the private sector.

That is silly.

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Nobody cares that you have a master’s in bullish/t studies from Towson.

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And it matters that there are 14,000 teachers because scarcity is an issue in compensation. Lebron James makes more than nurses. It doesnt mean he saves more lives- its relative scarcity.

If a mid earner (5-7 years) is to make 190+ as someone said in this thread, that would mean you would have plenty more of the 14k making even more.

It would make the current percentage of county spending on MCPS (50%) become substantially more. Basically unheard of levels of salary.

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Anonymous wrote:60k starting salary is nothing to sneeze at

Over time you still lose out because there aren't any promotions but that is a very generous starting salary.

In most industries employees get pay increases based on the subjective assessments of their supervisors, but teachers' unions don't want that.

I work in tech. I get quarterly raises that have nothing to do with "subjective assessments" or even merit. The outrage people in other industries give teachers is so pathetic.

My spouse works in tech too. There are no raises and you have to job jump for more money.

Because your spouse works in tech, their experience is the end all? You're the authority on every tech job ever? Wow! I had no idea I was in the presence of such genius! DP, but I also work in tech. My own firsthand experience is yes, we get raises throughout the year AND we also job jump. Imagine that. Someone else with a different experience than you. Hard to imagine with such a narrow world view but try.

Saying you work tech and that it is normal to get regular raises means nothing. My spouse had had multiple jobs and none gave raises like that. That's great you get that but it’s not normal.

I mean, hi. DP here in tech. Raises are absolutely the norm. Don’t know what to tell ya. You telling us your spouse doesn’t get raises means nothing too. It’s irrelevant to this thread but you might want to have a chat with them because what they are telling you isn’t true.

No they are not the norm and my spouse has had multiple jobs. In some jobs, the salary goes up and down every year due to RSU's. I know they are telling me the truth as I manage the money and do the taxes.

A simple Google search about tech job raises would do you wonders. "In 2021, the median salary for IT pros at large enterprises was $100,022, and $95,681 for those at mid-sized firms. In 2022, however, merit increases for IT pros lept to 5.61%, with the median salary for all IT professionals rising from $95,845 to $101,323. The median salary for an IT executive rose to $180,000." Followed by article after article about tech raises. But sure, you keep doing your spouses finances and using that to claim to be an expert. Sounds like your spouse might not be good at their job. Ever think of that?

The real point is, teachers' wages don't match their education. Most teachers have one or two masters and make under $100k and this is considered normal. It's an insult.

Having multiple master's degrees in basketweaving from Towson State doesn't entitle anyone to riches. Further, MCPS pay is generous especially when you consider most people in the private sector work 250+ days/year whereas teachers work 180-leave.

A lot of teachers seem to have grass is greener syndrome. They can't objectively appreciate how good they have it.