Yet another example of why I refuse to fly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What an immature jerk. I’m sure the mother was trying to do everything in her power to get her baby to stop screaming. He could’ve just ignored it or even tried to help, but instead it was all about him.

He was given the option to get off the plane and he refused, thereby making everyone else on the plane deplane. Awful behavior!

Yes, the guy is a crazy jerk. He should have cranked up the volume on his headphones and tuned out the crying baby.

But I’m not convinced the parents were comforting the child. I once sat next to a woman with an infant on an overnight flight to London, and she had her baby in a sleeping basket on the floor. The kid was screaming and obviously should have been held to stop the crying. After 5 minutes, I asked the woman who was checked out with her eyes closed if perhaps the baby would stop crying if she picked her up and her response was that the baby would eventually cry herself to sleep and that would be easier. I didn’t respond beyond rolling my eyes, but the flight attendant came over and asked the woman to pick up her baby and calm her down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait...OP, so you really don't fly because someone might throw a temper tantrum. As in, you don't go anywhere far. At all?

Nope I think that flying used to be luxurious and now it literally is packed like sardines and everyone is hot and you are lucky to get more than 4 oz to drink and god forbid you need to go to the bathroom while the plane is on the tarmac for the 4th hour or is circling for 1.5 hours after being on a plane for 4 hours.

I will fly solo as long as I have an edible beforehand.

I am 51 years old, and can never, ever remember a time when flying was luxurious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait...OP, so you really don't fly because someone might throw a temper tantrum. As in, you don't go anywhere far. At all?

Nope I think that flying used to be luxurious and now it literally is packed like sardines and everyone is hot and you are lucky to get more than 4 oz to drink and god forbid you need to go to the bathroom while the plane is on the tarmac for the 4th hour or is circling for 1.5 hours after being on a plane for 4 hours.

I will fly solo as long as I have an edible beforehand.

I am 51 years old, and can never, ever remember a time when flying was luxurious.

+1

I remember being packed in like sardines *with* cigarette smoke. We’ve come a long way, baby.

[Anonymous]

Being in a metal tube in the sky with no means to exit is difficult for everyone, and it's scary when someone's mental illness or general assh*lery impacts everyone.

I just try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt . . . parents, that if they could soothe their child, they would! Sometimes there's no soothing a baby who doesn't understand why their ear hurts. And unruly passengers, that they are having some kind of breakdown brought on by the cramped space, incessant noise, inability to exit, etc.

Be kind. Some day you'll be the one who needs kindness.

[Anonymous]

This does not make it right, but I think that man has mental issues or perhaps is on the spectrum. His reaction was not typical of a rational Nuro typical person.

(Personally, I would be pulling my hair out if a baby was screaming on an airplane the entire time. I just couldn’t deal with it, but I would not have the reaction he had. I also would’ve had an I also would’ve had a hard time with him screaming and ranting. And that’s why I drive everywhere, even cross country. )

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This does not make it right, but I think that man has mental issues or perhaps is on the spectrum. His reaction was not typical of a rational Nuro typical person.

(Personally, I would be pulling my hair out if a baby was screaming on an airplane the entire time. I just couldn’t deal with it, but I would not have the reaction he had. I also would’ve had an I also would’ve had a hard time with him screaming and ranting. And that’s why I drive everywhere, even cross country. )

I was just going to post something similar. While most people seem to sympathize with the parents/children in this case, perhaps the man has PTSD or other mental/emotional condition and the incessant crying set him off.

No one has identified whether or not the flight attendants tried to get parents to soothe child and they were lackadaisical about it. The only footage we have of them is telling the man to "calm down." Maybe he asked flight attendants (politely) to please ask parents to quiet child and he was ignored.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This does not make it right, but I think that man has mental issues or perhaps is on the spectrum. His reaction was not typical of a rational Nuro typical person.

(Personally, I would be pulling my hair out if a baby was screaming on an airplane the entire time. I just couldn’t deal with it, but I would not have the reaction he had. I also would’ve had an I also would’ve had a hard time with him screaming and ranting. And that’s why I drive everywhere, even cross country. )

I was just going to post something similar. While most people seem to sympathize with the parents/children in this case, perhaps the man has PTSD or other mental/emotional condition and the incessant crying set him off.

No one has identified whether or not the flight attendants tried to get parents to soothe child and they were lackadaisical about it. The only footage we have of them is telling the man to "calm down." Maybe he asked flight attendants (politely) to please ask parents to quiet child and he was ignored.

If you have PTSD triggered by certain noises, or ASD/sensory issues, BRING HEADPHONES or earplugs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve said it many times, children rarely bother me on flights. Crying? Not my kid, not my problem. I just tune that right out. Grown ass adults acting like children though, so much harder to ignore. This guy should be embarrassed.

The baby is crying because it is a BABY and new to the world. This man? Is an adult who should know how to manage his emotions. He is worse than a baby! Bring some ear plugs, invest in some quality head phones. Yes flying sucks, yelling about an INFANT being an INFANT is beyond ridiculous.

Adults should be held to a higher standard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This does not make it right, but I think that man has mental issues or perhaps is on the spectrum. His reaction was not typical of a rational Nuro typical person.

(Personally, I would be pulling my hair out if a baby was screaming on an airplane the entire time. I just couldn’t deal with it, but I would not have the reaction he had. I also would’ve had an I also would’ve had a hard time with him screaming and ranting. And that’s why I drive everywhere, even cross country. )

I was just going to post something similar. While most people seem to sympathize with the parents/children in this case, perhaps the man has PTSD or other mental/emotional condition and the incessant crying set him off.

No one has identified whether or not the flight attendants tried to get parents to soothe child and they were lackadaisical about it. The only footage we have of them is telling the man to "calm down." Maybe he asked flight attendants (politely) to please ask parents to quiet child and he was ignored.

That’s funny, because I was also going to mention that nobody has said if the parents lax or for proactive about trying to sooth the child. I decideded to take out that sentence, but I am happy you addressed it. I just don’t think his reaction was normal of a Normal person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This does not make it right, but I think that man has mental issues or perhaps is on the spectrum. His reaction was not typical of a rational Nuro typical person.

(Personally, I would be pulling my hair out if a baby was screaming on an airplane the entire time. I just couldn’t deal with it, but I would not have the reaction he had. I also would’ve had an I also would’ve had a hard time with him screaming and ranting. And that’s why I drive everywhere, even cross country. )

Even before I had little kids, I always traveled with ear plugs. Planes are annoying, people are annoying. I don't want to hear them. So I prepare for a flight like the grown up that I am, and bring ear plugs AND headphones.

What's the alternative? Smashing a pillow over the crying baby's face? Good lord you people are ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK. So don't fly.

Won't keep us from flying. We always bring noise-canceling headphones.

Seriously. You can’t drive to some of the most incredible destinations in this world so you are only punishing yourself. I fly 20+ times a yr and I’ve never experienced something like this.

I don't fly quite that much but I've flown a lot, and also haven't experienced anything like this/ Who knows - maybe next time! But usually it's more like delays, WiFi isn't working, plane gets unexpectedly rerouted because of weather, that sort of thing. Never had either a kid ruin a flight, or a grownup ruin a flight.

Anyway - we all decide what we're willing to risk, and I guess good for OP for deciding it's no planes for her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait...OP, so you really don't fly because someone might throw a temper tantrum. As in, you don't go anywhere far. At all?

Nope I think that flying used to be luxurious and now it literally is packed like sardines and everyone is hot and you are lucky to get more than 4 oz to drink and god forbid you need to go to the bathroom while the plane is on the tarmac for the 4th hour or is circling for 1.5 hours after being on a plane for 4 hours.

I will fly solo as long as I have an edible beforehand.

I am 51 years old, and can never, ever remember a time when flying was luxurious.

+1

I remember being packed in like sardines *with* cigarette smoke. We’ve come a long way, baby.

+2 About to turn 50, and same. I remember being packed into international flights with a big smoking section. Also, back then you didn't have wifi - it literally didn't exist - and so you'd have to watch whatever movie they were playing, and just hope you could see it from your uncomfortable seat. you also didn't have any say over the food you were given - sure, it came with the flight, but you got a tray of garbage, you didn't get to select snacks off a menu.

it's better now. i know people find that hard to believe, but it really is.

[Anonymous]

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I understand how awful the screaming or crying is but damn if this man isn't expecting more from the child than himself.
Everyone's on edge. It's been a long day for everyone and he even admits to having headphones on and sleeping. It likely hot and the kids adult(s) stressed and it's just escalating.

Kid could have an ear infection and they didn't know. So many things and people are just wild.
I'd rather drive 10 hours than be on a plane. I don't understand how it is easier or more relaxing.

The reason why there should be child free flights. Or. Children in back area of planes. After all, under age two, they are flying for free but the rest of passengers are paying. They do not pay to hear your kid screaming. Stop flying with sick children, drive instead!

If airlines were smart, they’d have babies and toddlers sit up front, last on and first off. Why isn’t that common sense?

I’m, v cause sone of us pay premium to sit up front. Now you want to give those seats to families for free? Hard no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who finds this video to be strangely hilarious? The guy is out of order, for sure, but I'll admit that I've had similar thoughts when listening to a baby scream for hours on a flight. Of course, I kept them to myself.

Agree to all^

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This does not make it right, but I think that man has mental issues or perhaps is on the spectrum. His reaction was not typical of a rational Nuro typical person.

(Personally, I would be pulling my hair out if a baby was screaming on an airplane the entire time. I just couldn’t deal with it, but I would not have the reaction he had. I also would’ve had an I also would’ve had a hard time with him screaming and ranting. And that’s why I drive everywhere, even cross country. )

I was just going to post something similar. While most people seem to sympathize with the parents/children in this case, perhaps the man has PTSD or other mental/emotional condition and the incessant crying set him off.

No one has identified whether or not the flight attendants tried to get parents to soothe child and they were lackadaisical about it. The only footage we have of them is telling the man to "calm down." Maybe he asked flight attendants (politely) to please ask parents to quiet child and he was ignored.

If you have PTSD triggered by certain noises, or ASD/sensory issues, BRING HEADPHONES or earplugs.

If you listen to the entirety of the video, the man says he had his ear phones on loud and the baby had been screaming for quite awhile over the sounds of the ear phones. I too wonder if the baby's parents tried to stop the crying. I don't believe that the man was the only person disturbed by the constant crying. He was just the only person to negatively act upon it. I have flown with a baby and yes there are ways to alleviate a baby's crying, even in the air. But of course, you can't be one of those cry-it-out parents. I don't blame the baby, but the baby's parents bare some responsibility for the selfish nonchalant behavior as well.