Post-Roe, will there be more infants available to adopt?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Adoption is a winner for all. Ask my kids.

No, there won't be more kids available for adoption. There will be more poor kids and teen moms.

Was it a winner for the woman who may have been raped and forced to have her rapists bastard? How was it a winner for a woman who simply could not afford to keep her baby to give it away to you because you had more money? If you care so much about child then why didn't you ask if you could help her keep her child? Adoption is selfishness and greed on your part.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Think about this, OP. Really think.

A woman gets pregnant. Maybe she's young, maybe older. Odds are that she already has children at home she is raising, but for some this would be the first.

Even if she would have chosen to have an abortion, now she can't. So she goes through 9 months of getting bigger and bigger, having people ask if she is pregnant, people asking if she's chosen a name, asking if the big brother or sister at home is excited. Offering advice about strollers, breastfeeding, colors for the nursery.

Abortion often is a private event. (That is what pisses people off who feel it should be punished.) You can make the choice and sort it out without commentary on it by everyone around you, or without other people feeling they have input.

Pregnancy is a very visible and public event. Other people comment on, advise, offer help, and have opinions.

To stand up to that and say, "no, I (or we) don't want this baby, and we're going to give it up for adoption" is enormously hard. It's also not what many do after going through the labor and delivery and having that bonding moment.

Most people are going to try to make it work. And newborns are relatively easy! They stay where you put them. They don't get into trouble, or talk back, or run out the door into traffic. You can make do, even if you aren't ready.

The kids that are going to be given up or taken away are older. They are old enough to remember violence, to talk back, to bring that trauma with them.

It's a sick fantasy that you'll have a sweet, precious little "domestic supply of infants." You will, however, have a domestic supply of traumatized older kids who need to be cared for.

And it doesn't even need to be 5+ years. I have two friends dealing with really difficult situations with children (now teens) they adopted at 2-3 years old who have reactive attachment disorder and are violent. After seeing what they've gone through I could never adopt a child that is not a newborn.

Adopting a newborn does not preclude any of the issues you listed from arising. Being ripped away from your biological mother as an infant is traumatic & causes RAD to develop.

[Anonymous]

There is a huge community of adult adoptees on Instagram, Reddit, Facebook groups, blogs, YouTube etc who wish they were aborted.

[Anonymous]

There are some real weirdos on this thread. Always has been on the adoption board, for years,

--mom of 2 adopted kids, awaiting on our 3rd

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are some real weirdos on this thread. Always has been on the adoption board, for years,

--mom of 2 adopted kids, awaiting on our 3rd

How much did each baby cost?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are indeed posters here who are clearly anti-adoption.

Adoption is quite traumatic to the birth mother and child. The only real winners are the adoptive parents.

This is the tiresome adopted person anti-adoption troll. They have made hundreds and hundreds of posts just like this. Ignore them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are indeed posters here who are clearly anti-adoption.

Adoption is quite traumatic to the birth mother and child. The only real winners are the adoptive parents.

This is the tiresome adopted person anti-adoption troll. They have made hundreds and hundreds of posts just like this. Ignore them.

So you ignore any opinion that differs from yours. Understood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Think about this, OP. Really think.

A woman gets pregnant. Maybe she's young, maybe older. Odds are that she already has children at home she is raising, but for some this would be the first.

Even if she would have chosen to have an abortion, now she can't. So she goes through 9 months of getting bigger and bigger, having people ask if she is pregnant, people asking if she's chosen a name, asking if the big brother or sister at home is excited. Offering advice about strollers, breastfeeding, colors for the nursery.

Abortion often is a private event. (That is what pisses people off who feel it should be punished.) You can make the choice and sort it out without commentary on it by everyone around you, or without other people feeling they have input.

Pregnancy is a very visible and public event. Other people comment on, advise, offer help, and have opinions.

To stand up to that and say, "no, I (or we) don't want this baby, and we're going to give it up for adoption" is enormously hard. It's also not what many do after going through the labor and delivery and having that bonding moment.

Most people are going to try to make it work. And newborns are relatively easy! They stay where you put them. They don't get into trouble, or talk back, or run out the door into traffic. You can make do, even if you aren't ready.

The kids that are going to be given up or taken away are older. They are old enough to remember violence, to talk back, to bring that trauma with them.

It's a sick fantasy that you'll have a sweet, precious little "domestic supply of infants." You will, however, have a domestic supply of traumatized older kids who need to be cared for.

And it doesn't even need to be 5+ years. I have two friends dealing with really difficult situations with children (now teens) they adopted at 2-3 years old who have reactive attachment disorder and are violent. After seeing what they've gone through I could never adopt a child that is not a newborn.

Adopting a newborn does not preclude any of the issues you listed from arising. Being ripped away from your biological mother as an infant is traumatic & causes RAD to develop.

That's not what rad is and it's not normal in a newborn. It's usually with kids in institutions or bad prior situations.

[Anonymous]

For a woman with no interest in having a kid and who would otherwise have an abortion, what are the odds they eat well, take prenatal vitamins, or even do something simple like give up alcohol?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For a woman with no interest in having a kid and who would otherwise have an abortion, what are the odds they eat well, take prenatal vitamins, or even do something simple like give up alcohol?

If she's white, the father was white, and the kid can be adopted within minutes of birth -- don't care if she consumed nothing but Twinkies and Vodka.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
For a woman with no interest in having a kid and who would otherwise have an abortion, what are the odds they eat well, take prenatal vitamins, or even do something simple like give up alcohol?


If she's white, the father was white, and the kid can be adopted within minutes of birth -- don't care if she consumed nothing but Twinkies and Vodka.

And if all she consumed was Twinkies and vodka, then the kid will almost certainly present with some of the symptoms of prenatal alcohol exposure. And the brain damage caused by fetal alcohol exposure is significant. What is often labeled reactive attachment disorder is often emotional dysregulation and brain damage due to prenatal alcohol exposure. The PP above with the friends who adopted toddlers who turned into violent teens immediately made me think that the kids probably had some form of prenatal exposure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a woman with no interest in having a kid and who would otherwise have an abortion, what are the odds they eat well, take prenatal vitamins, or even do something simple like give up alcohol?

If she's white, the father was white, and the kid can be adopted within minutes of birth -- don't care if she consumed nothing but Twinkies and Vodka.

Sure, fetal alcohol syndrome just means you don’t have to spend as much on a fancy college

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For a woman with no interest in having a kid and who would otherwise have an abortion, what are the odds they eat well, take prenatal vitamins, or even do something simple like give up alcohol?

This

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a woman with no interest in having a kid and who would otherwise have an abortion, what are the odds they eat well, take prenatal vitamins, or even do something simple like give up alcohol?

If she's white, the father was white, and the kid can be adopted within minutes of birth -- don't care if she consumed nothing but Twinkies and Vodka.

Why do you care?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are indeed posters here who are clearly anti-adoption.

Adoption is quite traumatic to the birth mother and child. The only real winners are the adoptive parents.

This is the tiresome adopted person anti-adoption troll. They have made hundreds and hundreds of posts just like this. Ignore them.

Sorry, no. I’m a child-free non-adoptee who has seen a lot of harm done by adoption. Many people don’t think adoption is the inherent good you want it to be.