What do we need to do to stop mass shootings?

Anonymous
Fake news. There is no so-called crime wave, just like there isn’t any recession.

If things were really that bad, I would hear about it all the time on NPR.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As a parent, we need to harden our schools, which we can do today!

We also need to improve mental health after we (let’s be honest) way-over did it with the Covid lockdown, and harmed so many kids health.

The out of control social media isn’t helping; in fact it’s making things worse.

These partial solutions are realistic and achievable.


You may be speaking as a parent, but who is speaking as a kid? If you”harden the schools” which I’m not even sure what that means… one door, no glass? That is an ugly way to grow up.

We teach kids are unsafe with “safety drills and procedures” and then wonder why they are acting out in school.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Keep guns out of the hands of people with mental health issues. People who don’t know what gender they are have mental health issues.

Background checks on all purchases.

Tougher punishment on crime. We can’t keep catching and releasing.

Pack the prisons with the criminals and keep them there.

Normalize being normal. Quit acting like transgender, gay marriage, divorce, crime, etc, is behavior that should be applauded. Two parent homes with disciplined kids should be applauded


Who applauds crime? Seriously, name the people who applaud crime and what crimes are they applauding? Other than Donald Trump's crimes and the crimes of J6.
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Oh please! Everyone knows democrats are pro crime:

- defund police (dems)

- remove SROs from MoCo and Alexandria schools (dems)

- eliminate bail: (dems)

- prosecutors who refuse to prosecute even violent offenders (dems)

And most recent and specifically, here in DC, dems tried to pass this massively pro-criminal / anti-victim law:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1116430.page


You haven’t demonstrating applauding crime. You’ve demonstrated people fed up with police brutality.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Keep guns out of the hands of people with mental health issues. People who don’t know what gender they are have mental health issues.

Background checks on all purchases.

Tougher punishment on crime. We can’t keep catching and releasing.

Pack the prisons with the criminals and keep them there.

Normalize being normal. Quit acting like transgender, gay marriage, divorce, crime, etc, is behavior that should be applauded. Two parent homes with disciplined kids should be applauded


You are not only an idiot, you are dangerous.


When morality is called dangerous, and those pushing for morality are called idiots, you end up with school shootings.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Keep guns out of the hands of people with mental health issues. People who don’t know what gender they are have mental health issues.

Background checks on all purchases.

Tougher punishment on crime. We can’t keep catching and releasing.

Pack the prisons with the criminals and keep them there.

Normalize being normal. Quit acting like transgender, gay marriage, divorce, crime, etc, is behavior that should be applauded. Two parent homes with disciplined kids should be applauded


You are not only an idiot, you are dangerous.


When morality is called dangerous, and those pushing for morality are called idiots, you end up with school shootings.


I think people like you are immoral. Who is to say your definition of immorality trumps mine?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Keep guns out of the hands of people with mental health issues. People who don’t know what gender they are have mental health issues.

Background checks on all purchases.

Tougher punishment on crime. We can’t keep catching and releasing.

Pack the prisons with the criminals and keep them there.

Normalize being normal. Quit acting like transgender, gay marriage, divorce, crime, etc, is behavior that should be applauded. Two parent homes with disciplined kids should be applauded


STFU
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:We’ve normalized immoral behavior. I didn’t say gays were killing people. I said we’ve normalized immoral behavior. And we do applaud crime. Michael Brown tried to kill a cop and when the cop acted in self defense, we burned down a town and folks put BLM on a pedestal. We have to go back to the days of right vs wrong in society. Crime is bad, immoral behavior shouldn’t be applauded, etc.

Shooting school kids is immoral. As is homosexual marriage, crime, having more than 2 genders, etc. We need to bring back common sense, decency, right vs wrong, discipline, etc. in all facets of life. People with mental health issues need help, not affirmation that they are normal and right.


People who are so hyped up about gay marriage tend to be closeted.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Unlimited statute of limit and damages for gun manufacturers. Also personal liability that can bankrupt for families of shooters.


Only if the shooter was a minor.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We all know the answer. The question is why won't we do it?


Involuntary institutionalization of crazy people who would do stuff like this? Yes, I’m with you.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Keep guns out of the hands of people with mental health issues. People who don’t know what gender they are have mental health issues.

Background checks on all purchases.

Tougher punishment on crime. We can’t keep catching and releasing.

Pack the prisons with the criminals and keep them there.

Normalize being normal. Quit acting like transgender, gay marriage, divorce, crime, etc, is behavior that should be applauded. Two parent homes with disciplined kids should be applauded


You are not only an idiot, you are dangerous.


When morality is called dangerous, and those pushing for morality are called idiots, you end up with school shootings.


I think people like you are immoral. Who is to say your definition of immorality trumps mine?



Very fair point. You don’t believe in any absolute truth. So by your stance, it would be okay for some to call a school shooting moral. I call a school shooting immoral with no gray area.
Anonymous
No Red Flag law in Tennessee. Covenant school shooter was under the care of a doctor for mental health issues. This doctor and parents could have flagged shooter prior to stockpiling 7 assault weapons and ammo.

This is just a snippet from The National Assessment Threat Center (NATC), a division of the U.S. Secret Service study (March 2021)— “Averting Targeted School Violence: A U.S. Secret Service Analysis of Plots Against Schools.” The NATC data strongly supports implementing mandatory national Red Flag laws or “threat assessments” in addition to mandatory national safe firearm storage laws. Both fall under the “Extreme Risk Protection Order” legislation proposed by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). The proposal was included in the Biden Administration’s gun violence prevention plan update from The White House Briefing Room statements on December 14, 2021. Again, in 2022. Biden has stated numerous times that our country will not be beholden to the NRA. Yet, here we are.

The problem is GOP and their low IQ/EQ representatives. Purely political posturing, and they’re not even good at it. No one in their right mind is doling out sanity cards to these people.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Keep guns out of the hands of people with mental health issues. People who don’t know what gender they are have mental health issues.

Background checks on all purchases.

Tougher punishment on crime. We can’t keep catching and releasing.

Pack the prisons with the criminals and keep them there.

Normalize being normal. Quit acting like transgender, gay marriage, divorce, crime, etc, is behavior that should be applauded. Two parent homes with disciplined kids should be applauded


You are not only an idiot, you are dangerous.


When morality is called dangerous, and those pushing for morality are called idiots, you end up with school shootings.


I think people like you are immoral. Who is to say your definition of immorality trumps mine?

+1 That PP is hateful.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:You know who made it easier for people with mental illness to have a gun?

Republicans


Who put political pressure on psychologists to rewrite the DSM because it hurt some people’s feelings, so people who were rightly labelled as mentally unstable 20 years ago are now just a special interest group?

Not Republicans.

Red Flag Laws don’t really work when you erase certain types of mental illness because it might hurt some people’s feelings.


So tons and tons of mass shootings are committed by white cis males, yet clearly the problem is the one possible transgender shooter?

You need to think before you speak


Don’t let facts get in the way of your argument, and please factor in how many trans and non-binary people there are relative to the overall population. Relative to their make up in the overall population they are way over represented in recent mass shootings.

Aurora
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/colorado/news/colorado-springs-lgbtq-club-shooting-suspect-identifying-non-binary-court-documents/

There are more, but I’m not going to do your homework for you.

Because like FIVE of the recent shooters - and there have been about 1500 in the last three or so years - have been on the LGBTQIA+ spectrum. There. Did my homework. You have no point.

Again the answer to mass shootings is vote out the GOP at all levels. Obviously they’re not going to try anything and since they, during Trump’s first year, made it easier for mentally ill people to buy guns it’s pretty clear that they don’t believe it’s mental illness, either.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No Red Flag law in Tennessee. Covenant school shooter was under the care of a doctor for mental health issues. This doctor and parents could have flagged shooter prior to stockpiling 7 assault weapons and ammo.

This is just a snippet from The National Assessment Threat Center (NATC), a division of the U.S. Secret Service study (March 2021)— “Averting Targeted School Violence: A U.S. Secret Service Analysis of Plots Against Schools.” The NATC data strongly supports implementing mandatory national Red Flag laws or “threat assessments” in addition to mandatory national safe firearm storage laws. Both fall under the “Extreme Risk Protection Order” legislation proposed by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). The proposal was included in the Biden Administration’s gun violence prevention plan update from The White House Briefing Room statements on December 14, 2021. Again, in 2022. Biden has stated numerous times that our country will not be beholden to the NRA. Yet, here we are.

The problem is GOP and their low IQ/EQ representatives. Purely political posturing, and they’re not even good at it. No one in their right mind is doling out sanity cards to these people.


The ATF form 4473 should be updated to say are you currently under medical supervision for any mental illness, rather than "Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution?"
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Also, offer $1M per gun to owners.


So they can buy more guns?


Naturally. Disgusting, but of course.

I detest the idea of rewarding these garbage people who clung to their weapons of war and voted in people with A+ NRA ratings. But I support buybacks in the thousands, not millions, universal health including mental health care, and revising institutions.
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