What do we need to do to stop mass shootings?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Just wanted to make sure we understood.

I noticed you didn't say anything about making sure guns don't get into the hands children or the mentally unstable or anyone convicted of a violent act including domestic violence. Those are also realistic and achievable!


DP

That is utterly impossible to do now that firearms can be 3d printed with minimal effort. You can 3d print pistol/rifle cartridges and even grenade launchers now. That genie isn't going away.

There's no technical solution to stop it either.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
No, please stop. These shootings happen because people have assault weapons. Civilians didn’t really have assault weapons until the 1980s. https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/policy-areas/hardware-ammunition/assault-weapons/

Everywhere on earth has mental illness. Many places have some guns. Nowhere in the developed world that is not currently in a hot war are there so many assault rifles.

To stop mass shootings we need to end the GOP. They are the ones that will block everything. With them having any levers of power, we can’t work to expand mental health access, nor can we ban any kind of guns or start any kind of universal background check or blocking obviously mentally ill and violent people from owning guns. These are the things that can help and only one party is interested in doing any of it.


The assault weapons thing is a non-starter.

The US goverment sells actual [u] weapons of war directly to the public even today. You can buy surplus military weapons of war (rifles and pistols) DIRECTLY from the government over the internet. They are shipped, DIRECTLY TO YOUR HOUSE without an FFL being involved. You haven't been able to do that for years under any other method, even when you could buy fully automatic rifles out of a catalog.

Assault weapons are not actual weapons of war. They're civilianized copies.

You probably don't even know you can buy firearms without ANY background check totally legally. Antique, or antique styled firearms legally aren't classified as.... firearms. Therefore you don't need a universal background check of any kind.

All the stuff you propose is so unbelievably silly to bypass. The only way to get what you want is to create a police state and good luck with that.
Anonymous
It'd hard to know what to do really. I mean it's not like there are other countries that show us what can be done. Oh wait ...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It'd hard to know what to do really. I mean it's not like there are other countries that show us what can be done. Oh wait ...


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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Just wanted to make sure we understood.

I noticed you didn't say anything about making sure guns don't get into the hands children or the mentally unstable or anyone convicted of a violent act including domestic violence. Those are also realistic and achievable!


DP

That is utterly impossible to do now that firearms can be 3d printed with minimal effort. You can 3d print pistol/rifle cartridges and even grenade launchers now. That genie isn't going away.

There's no technical solution to stop it either.



How many mass shootings have been done with 3d printed weapons or ammunition?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Just wanted to make sure we understood.

I noticed you didn't say anything about making sure guns don't get into the hands children or the mentally unstable or anyone convicted of a violent act including domestic violence. Those are also realistic and achievable!


DP

That is utterly impossible to do now that firearms can be 3d printed with minimal effort. You can 3d print pistol/rifle cartridges and even grenade launchers now. That genie isn't going away.

There's no technical solution to stop it either.

I didn't realize 3D printers are only available in America! Good try, good effort.
Anonymous
Gun buy backs.

Strict licensing and registration requirements. Treat guns like cars and tax them like personal property to create a victim’s fund.

Greater liability (civil and criminal) for not securing a firearm. The owner should be on the hook if someone accesses their gun and commits a crime.

Harsher sentencing for crimes involving guns.

AR ban.

Limited ammunition sales.

Background checks and red flag laws.

Bans on gun ownership for anyone with a DV conviction (and while charges pending).

Allow lawsuits against gun manufacturers.

Lifetime limit on how many guns you can buy.

Waiting periods.

More mental health beds available for people in crisis. And free, easy to access counseling.

These are just some off the top of my head. There are like a gazillion solutions we could try. But we won’t. Because we’re held hostage by a$$holes who would rather children be slaughtered than be inconvenienced with any sort of steps that make it harder to buy a gun than a pack of gum.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Keep guns out of the hands of people with mental health issues. People who don’t know what gender they are have mental health issues.

Background checks on all purchases.

Tougher punishment on crime. We can’t keep catching and releasing.

Pack the prisons with the criminals and keep them there.

Normalize being normal. Quit acting like transgender, gay marriage, divorce, crime, etc, is behavior that should be applauded. Two parent homes with disciplined kids should be applauded
I support this. I will add that people with gender dysphoria usually have additions cooccurring mental illnesses. Severe depression and various phobias for example.


We’ve got a man winning NCAA womens swim meets. We’ve got a transportation secretary married to a man, and they “had a baby”. And people think this behavior is somehow normal or right. It’s no wonder people in this country are screwed up in the head.


Oh yes, it’s definitely this. Trans athletes and gay dads are maiming and killing our school children! Definitely nothing to do with the guns.
Anonymous
You know who made it easier for people with mental illness to have a gun?

Republicans
Anonymous
It's all about campaign finance. Stop paying Republicans to uphold gun rights. All lobbying, payment for anything by anyone.

We are killing each other. We buy and invest from companies that support legislators who support guns. We do this every day. We all have blood on out hands.
Anonymous
I was born/raised in Canada and did my undergrad there. I did grad in the US and that's where I currently live and work (where I married my husband - who is American - and where my kids are being raised).

The reason there is way more gun violence in the US is because there are more guns in the US. It's as simple as that.

Whatever rationale you have for gun violence in the US is also present in Canada, UK, and Australia (the three countries that are most culturally similar to the US...and US and Canada are two of the most culturally similar countries on the planet).

As terrifying as high profile mass shootings are in the US - on point of grumpiness that I have is that the emphasis on the school shootings (and other very high profile mass shootings) is it detracts from the sheer level of 'gun violence' in the country.

I'm not trying to detract from the horror we have just watching Tennessee - it's tragic - and every parent's worst nightmare.

But there is a much bigger problem going on here when it comes to gun violence - and we all have to acknowledge it is not occurring in other culturally similar countries (who experience the same problems we have in the US).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Keep guns out of the hands of people with mental health issues. People who don’t know what gender they are have mental health issues.

Background checks on all purchases.

Tougher punishment on crime. We can’t keep catching and releasing.

Pack the prisons with the criminals and keep them there.

Normalize being normal. Quit acting like transgender, gay marriage, divorce, crime, etc, is behavior that should be applauded. Two parent homes with disciplined kids should be applauded


Who applauds crime? Seriously, name the people who applaud crime and what crimes are they applauding? Other than Donald Trump's crimes and the crimes of J6.
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Oh please! Everyone knows democrats are pro crime:

- defund police (dems)

- remove SROs from MoCo and Alexandria schools (dems)

- eliminate bail: (dems)

- prosecutors who refuse to prosecute even violent offenders (dems)

And most recent and specifically, here in DC, dems tried to pass this massively pro-criminal / anti-victim law:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1116430.page

Anonymous
because, equity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again: If Sandy Hook and Uvalde didn't move the needle, nothing will. Nothing.

Don't forget Parkland. There may other school shootings in between that I'm forgetting...THAT'S how bad things are.
Anonymous
Unlimited statute of limit and damages for gun manufacturers. Also personal liability that can bankrupt for families of shooters.
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