I'm the PP you were responding to who went to Vassar 20 years ago. Yes, the LGBT subculture was very prominent then, and yes, it seemed like half the men were gay. Despite not aligning with that subculture I made some of my best friends to this day at Vassar. Some of these close friends (male and female) are gay and some are not. I have no idea what the drug subculture was like back then. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it was there and I was naïve to it because it wasn’t my scene. I most definitely did not feel the need to partake in drugs in order to fit in. |
I am the other alum (15-year alum as opposed to 20-year alum...) and yes agreed. To the poster of asking why folks need to ask if straight men would fit in is because precisely of the stereotyping you are perpetuating. Vassar isn't an LGBT school. Howard is a HBCU. The parallel is not there. Plus I think the ratio at Sarah Lawrence is much worse than Vassar.... |
There's a lot of stereotyping going on in this thread — seemingly by posters with little direct experience with Vassar who are just repeating rumors, even as they're contradicted by actual alums and actual parents. |
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It’s not typical for half the men at a college to be gay so it’s something that any applicant should be comfortable with. It’s a defining attribute of Vassar. I don’t think any other top LACs have that characteristic.
Vassar also has to go to lengths to maintain its male ratio which stands now at 38 pct. It is less selective when it comes to men. that is something to think about. A lot of guys are perhaps there because they wanted to attend a top ranked lac and this is the only one they could get into. Financial aid is also very good at Vassar which could be attractive to male applicants from lower income backgrounds. So one observation is that you could have a lot of men there who are there for the academic part rather than really being invested in the school culture. All things to consider. https://miscellanynews.org/2019/04/10/opinions/vassar-admissions-exhibits-gender-bias-against-women/ |
Do let us know where we can find data on the fraction of men at a college who are gay. Also, many colleges/universities are less selective when it comes to men. For example, see https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/can-your-gender-give-you-an-admissions-edge/ And explore the data available at https://www.highereddatastories.com/2021/09/gender-advantages-in-college-admission.html Also, check out the Vassar Factbook to see how this gender advantage for men has been changing in recent years, https://offices.vassar.edu/institutional-research/fact-book/ Always good to be well-informed before making broad pronouncements. |
I really don’t think there is reliable data out there tracking gay populations but alums here seem to confirm it was about half. I didn’t learn anything knew from the fact book. 38 pct male is taken from CDS. Look- it’s a very female and very gay school. Nothing wrong with that but it sets it apart from other schools. |
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PP Vassar alum here. I said in my previous post that "it seemed like half the men were gay." I have no idea the actual percentage was. Don't take my post as confirmation that it was about half. |
It’s probably illegal to ask people if they are gay (but who knows anymore?). So we have to rely on impressions and your impression is probably not far off. It is logical that gay males would be drawn to a very progressive former women’s college near NYC |
And people that want an environment accepting if gay students. It seems crazy to have to deliberately consider that in the year of 2023 but here we are. Things going on in places like Florida are repellent to gay students and other people that know and support the gay people in their lives |
Yes. Vassar is a sort of a “sanctuary school” for gays and progressives. A safe space free of conflicting viewpoints. |
Accusing gay people of being "groomers" is not a conflicting viewpoint. It is a homophobic slur and yet we have to read about garbage like that every day down here in Florida. |
+1 It's like saying a person of color who doesn't want to go to a school where racism is held up as an "alternate view" is just wanting a "safe space free of conflicting views" -- conflicting views are welcom, a culture that supports attacks or discrimination against someone's race/ethnicity/religious/sexual identity are not. |
You're quoting me and honestly, this is EXACTLY it. |
Thank you. I know the type! They’re the worst!!! |