Young Scholars Admittance

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the lady complaining about young scholars should have to sit through the IEP process for a 2e kid to see how unfair FCPS is to these groups.

Thank you. My kid is in AAP but also has ADHD and testing revealed very poor level of executive functioning. We asked for a 504 and didn’t even get that for her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, this is a great teaching moment for you and your child. If you take the time to learn about why students from these disadvantaged backgrounds need such a program, you can explain it to your kid. After all, people of color are forced to have very serious conversations with their kids about things like police brutality and racial profiling, so your kid will survive.

Please do some self-reflection because you may be passing down your unconscious (or conscious) prejudice to your child.

It is a good opportunity to explain that my kids and the young scholars are not at fault here and that this segregation exists because misguided adults chose to separate children because of the color of their skin or the jobs some parents have. It’s a good lesson.

PP, I think a lot of FCPS's "equity" language is nonsense, but your post is ridiculous. Do you also want your child without disabilities to have an IEP? Frankly, if this is even on your radar as a problem, you live a privileged life. Move along.

It's pretty simple. This program admits based on the color of a kids skin... to support kids who may be disadvantaged because of the color of their skin? Why not just have a program like this for everyone to be encouraged achieve their best? Everyone can gain something from this kind of program.

I talked about kid who was admitted previously. She’s white. Not low SES. But she is 2e. Stop spreading lies PP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, this is a great teaching moment for you and your child. If you take the time to learn about why students from these disadvantaged backgrounds need such a program, you can explain it to your kid. After all, people of color are forced to have very serious conversations with their kids about things like police brutality and racial profiling, so your kid will survive.

Please do some self-reflection because you may be passing down your unconscious (or conscious) prejudice to your child.

It is a good opportunity to explain that my kids and the young scholars are not at fault here and that this segregation exists because misguided adults chose to separate children because of the color of their skin or the jobs some parents have. It’s a good lesson.

So I can explain to my kid why 75% of his classmates at Mt. Vernon are Hispanic and Black. Because misguided adults vote for policy and decisions that keep them de facto segregated away from blending in with everyone else. Because of the color of their skin, others avoid going to school with them.

So then you agree that Young Scholars criteria is wrong?

No. One case is a false feeling of discrimination that one doesn't qualify for the K-12 equivalent of welfare. The other is xenophobia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The latest Asra Nomani “revelations” about Young Scholars are based on some communication Glenn Miller, another GOP activist, recently came across at Cooper MS.

If there’s anything that unites Republican like Miller and Democrats like Elaine Tholen, it’s making sure that Cooper MS and Langley HS have as few kids as possible who might ever be logical candidates for a program like Young Scholars.

This thread is more evidence that DCUM is being used by Asra and cronies for their political efforts to destroy FCPS.

Seriously I don’t even know who Asra is but that there has been major astroturfing by right wing people to completely vilify anything FCPS does is so obvious. The people funding these grassroots groups don’t give a F about public schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, this is a great teaching moment for you and your child. If you take the time to learn about why students from these disadvantaged backgrounds need such a program, you can explain it to your kid. After all, people of color are forced to have very serious conversations with their kids about things like police brutality and racial profiling, so your kid will survive.

Please do some self-reflection because you may be passing down your unconscious (or conscious) prejudice to your child.

It is a good opportunity to explain that my kids and the young scholars are not at fault here and that this segregation exists because misguided adults chose to separate children because of the color of their skin or the jobs some parents have. It’s a good lesson.

PP, I think a lot of FCPS's "equity" language is nonsense, but your post is ridiculous. Do you also want your child without disabilities to have an IEP? Frankly, if this is even on your radar as a problem, you live a privileged life. Move along.

It's pretty simple. This program admits based on the color of a kids skin... to support kids who may be disadvantaged because of the color of their skin? Why not just have a program like this for everyone to be encouraged achieve their best? Everyone can gain something from this kind of program.

I talked about kid who was admitted previously. She’s white. Not low SES. But she is 2e. Stop spreading lies PP.

My child is also in Young Scholars. White. High SES, but 2e. It’s not about skin color.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, this is a great teaching moment for you and your child. If you take the time to learn about why students from these disadvantaged backgrounds need such a program, you can explain it to your kid. After all, people of color are forced to have very serious conversations with their kids about things like police brutality and racial profiling, so your kid will survive.

Please do some self-reflection because you may be passing down your unconscious (or conscious) prejudice to your child.

It is a good opportunity to explain that my kids and the young scholars are not at fault here and that this segregation exists because misguided adults chose to separate children because of the color of their skin or the jobs some parents have. It’s a good lesson.

PP, I think a lot of FCPS's "equity" language is nonsense, but your post is ridiculous. Do you also want your child without disabilities to have an IEP? Frankly, if this is even on your radar as a problem, you live a privileged life. Move along.

It's pretty simple. This program admits based on the color of a kids skin... to support kids who may be disadvantaged because of the color of their skin? Why not just have a program like this for everyone to be encouraged achieve their best? Everyone can gain something from this kind of program.

I talked about kid who was admitted previously. She’s white. Not low SES. But she is 2e. Stop spreading lies PP.

My child is also in Young Scholars. White. High SES, but 2e. It’s not about skin color.

So then based on the admission criteria a white middle class neurotypical kid is not listed as qualifying but a black middle class neurotypical kid does qualify or a hispanic middle class neurotypical kid does qualify. And that is not about skin color?

I just think it appears to be a good thing that all kids could benefit from.

Never heard of it before... looked it up and was a bit shocked. But it sounds like it's been around for a while and we can just ask to join, so it's just bad messaging. thanks for the help.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, this is a great teaching moment for you and your child. If you take the time to learn about why students from these disadvantaged backgrounds need such a program, you can explain it to your kid. After all, people of color are forced to have very serious conversations with their kids about things like police brutality and racial profiling, so your kid will survive.

Please do some self-reflection because you may be passing down your unconscious (or conscious) prejudice to your child.

It is a good opportunity to explain that my kids and the young scholars are not at fault here and that this segregation exists because misguided adults chose to separate children because of the color of their skin or the jobs some parents have. It’s a good lesson.

PP, I think a lot of FCPS's "equity" language is nonsense, but your post is ridiculous. Do you also want your child without disabilities to have an IEP? Frankly, if this is even on your radar as a problem, you live a privileged life. Move along.

It's pretty simple. This program admits based on the color of a kids skin... to support kids who may be disadvantaged because of the color of their skin? Why not just have a program like this for everyone to be encouraged achieve their best? Everyone can gain something from this kind of program.

I talked about kid who was admitted previously. She’s white. Not low SES. But she is 2e. Stop spreading lies PP.

My child is also in Young Scholars. White. High SES, but 2e. It’s not about skin color.

So then based on the admission criteria a white middle class neurotypical kid is not listed as qualifying but a black middle class neurotypical kid does qualify or a hispanic middle class neurotypical kid does qualify. And that is not about skin color?

I just think it appears to be a good thing that all kids could benefit from.

Never heard of it before... looked it up and was a bit shocked. But it sounds like it's been around for a while and we can just ask to join, so it's just bad messaging. thanks for the help.

YS also considers the education level of the parents. A child can qualify if 2e, but if a child is not 2e is there another qualifying factor like being part of a low income family or parents did not attend college?

[Anonymous]

YS has been around for a long time and was a highly successful program at the Title I ES my kids (white/UMC) attended. Raised the bar for everyone. Stop being so jealous of poor kids/ESOL kids/2E kids - honestly, they have it tougher than your child.

[Anonymous]

My mixed race (white/asian) 2E child whose immigrant father did go to college is in YS. He checks all the boxes! I understand OP that your child has FOMO, I get that.

But I will tell you that my kid has missed out on so much of what typical kids can do. I assure you that a few extra field trips does not make up for that. He was born with a physical issue in his mouth that couldn't be treated until he was 3.5. He didn't talk until he was 4. He's been through the wringer socially and emotionally as he tries to catch up. But despite that, he still scored over 95th percentile in non-verbal assessments and is considered hyperlexic to some.

Why would you want to deprive a child who was born behind the curve for a disability/economic disadvantage/or language issue the chance to catch up. Even gain some confidence, dream big, and thrive!

My older child got none of this and I'm not bitter. Just count your lucky stars that you haven't had to face any of that and tell your DC my story. Seriously, YS isn't about "woke politics" and shouldn't be weaponized.

[Anonymous]

PP * did NOT go to college, typo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting for OP to tell us specifically what her child missed out on and was upset about.

Still waiting...oh wait, OP isn't coming back because she's a Republican troll. It's spring of an election year, folks, please read these posts VERY CRITICALLY. The Republicans are out in full force and as we learned in the last big election, they are NOT afraid to use this forum and education in general as a tool to get what they want. They are very, very, very manipulative. Don't believe everything you read here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Id never heard of this before and found out about a bunch of field trips and activities going on at DC school. DC brought it up and we don't qualify based on the following criteria, but this seems kind of crazy. Is FCPS even allowed to do this? Are there alternatives for people who don't qualify?

Young Scholars is:

Designed to identify and nurture students with high academic potential from historically underrepresented groups* in Advanced Academic Programs (AAP) and courses
A strategy to increase access to rigor found in:
The FCPS strategic plan.
The Closing the Achievement Gap framework.
In addition to, not a replacement of, advanced learning opportunities from the FCPS AAP continuum of services.
*Twice exceptional, English Learners, Black, Hispanic, or economically vulnerable

The best way to get excited about programs like this is to ignore the fact that it is all based on racism. But it’s well-meaning racism, so that makes it okay. Just pretend that merit is not the only ethical way to allocate admittance. There will be no significant consequences to our society.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Still waiting for OP to tell us specifically what her child missed out on and was upset about.

Still waiting...oh wait, OP isn't coming back because she's a Republican troll. It's spring of an election year, folks, please read these posts VERY CRITICALLY. The Republicans are out in full force and as we learned in the last big election, they are NOT afraid to use this forum and education in general as a tool to get what they want. They are very, very, very manipulative. Don't believe everything you read here.

No one owes you specifics for your political fantasy world. Young scholar STEM events aren’t some mystery. You are probably aware of them already. If you’ve been reading the thread, we’ve already come to a conclusion.

[Anonymous]

They discuss Young Scholars at my kids school. No one seems to care. The STEM after school offerings fill up in no time flat. There are kids doing various STEM Clubs and events. I think most people are comfortable with the idea that they can afford a better program so that is what they do.

Some folks want to be outraged just to be outraged.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Still waiting for OP to tell us specifically what her child missed out on and was upset about.

Still waiting...oh wait, OP isn't coming back because she's a Republican troll. It's spring of an election year, folks, please read these posts VERY CRITICALLY. The Republicans are out in full force and as we learned in the last big election, they are NOT afraid to use this forum and education in general as a tool to get what they want. They are very, very, very manipulative. Don't believe everything you read here.

You're undoubtedly right, but the irony is that someone is complaining about an email about a Young Scholars-like program circulated at Cooper MS, a middle school that a wealthy DEMOCRAT on the FCPS School Board from Great Falls made sure in 2021 remains free of ANY multi-family housing and includes ONLY expensive single-family houses and expensive townhouses.

So there is plenty of HYPOCRISY in this county on the part of officials in BOTH parties to go around, and voters in the fall 2023 elections should be aware of it.