Young Scholars Admittance

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, this is a great teaching moment for you and your child. If you take the time to learn about why students from these disadvantaged backgrounds need such a program, you can explain it to your kid. After all, people of color are forced to have very serious conversations with their kids about things like police brutality and racial profiling, so your kid will survive.

Please do some self-reflection because you may be passing down your unconscious (or conscious) prejudice to your child.

It is a good opportunity to explain that my kids and the young scholars are not at fault here and that this segregation exists because misguided adults chose to separate children because of the color of their skin or the jobs some parents have. It’s a good lesson.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It just seems unfair that my kid hears about this stuff and asks if they can do it, and I have to tell them no. Then when they ask why, I have to tell them that it's not our fault. Essentially though, its discrimination.

My kid could absolutely benefit from cool STEM trips.

So can mine, which is why we did a sleep in at the Maryland Science Center with a bunch of kids in his STEM Club. I can provide him those opportunities but the kids in Young Scholars come from backgrounds where they are not likely to have those type of opportunities, even participating in a STEM.

Does your child have the opportunity to participate in extra curricular activities or visit museums or participate in enrichment because of where you are as a family? If so, then provide those options for you child. If not, then I would conduct further investigation into the Young Scholars program. My family can provide those opportunities for my kid and we choose to do so. I am glad that FCPS has a program to try and provide similar, but probably not the same quality of opportunities I can provide my kid, for kids who don't have access to those programs through their parents.

we are a pretty busy and do the best we can to provide those kinds of opportunities but when their friends get to do this stuff, they'd like to join. It's always great to be part of a peer group when exploring these things. If they're enrichment that the school can provide, then it should be an option for all. why not open this program to everyone? All kids rich or poor can benefit from exploring these topics together.

You're too busy to do it yourself but you want the school to do it for your kid. That is what I am hearing. I have the money to provide those opportunities for my child and it is important to me so I make the time. The kids in Young Scholars are supposed to be kids who don't have the money or support at home and who are interested and who could benefit from the challenge. It is a way to help bridge the education gap that exists, mainly due to income difference, lack of information about programs, and a lack of family support for enrichment.

If you are in a position to provide that, then do so. There are clubs and programs that it sounds like you could provide if you decide to prioritize it. My kid loves STEM so we found clubs and programs that he enjoys. He likes them because he is with other kids who enjoy STEM as well. So we make the time. Your response says to me "it sounds great but we are busy with other things so we don't prioritize it but he should be able to participate through the school program because it sounds cool and will save us the time in doing it on our own."

Well I think only blacks and Hispanics should have access to free public school. After all white ans asian kids parents can afford private school or home.school so why should these overrepresented groups expect free education? Such privileges- really sickening. Let's separate kids by skin color and only let in blacks and Hispanics into public school buildings. Aym Rand was white after all so no white kids deserve free public education.

The kids most frequently selected for Young Scholars don’t have the same access to extra curricular activities that other kids have. I strongly suspect that the STEM programs I pay for for my kid are providing better experiences then what kids in Young Scholars are getting. It sounds like you are free to ask your school to enroll your kid, so go for it. Let us know what it is like.

I am guessing that there is a reason that the families who provide enrichment have not looked at Young Scholars and I would suspect that is because there are better opportunities for kids if the parents want to make time for it and pay for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the lady complaining about young scholars should have to sit through the IEP process for a 2e kid to see how unfair FCPS is to these groups.

Exactly. A lot of very high IQ kids who have autism or ADHD (or a similar disability) have to argue for access to advanced classes. Young Scholars helps advocate for those kids so they can take challenging coursework.

[Anonymous]

The latest Asra Nomani “revelations” about Young Scholars are based on some communication Glenn Miller, another GOP activist, recently came across at Cooper MS.

If there’s anything that unites Republican like Miller and Democrats like Elaine Tholen, it’s making sure that Cooper MS and Langley HS have as few kids as possible who might ever be logical candidates for a program like Young Scholars.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, this is a great teaching moment for you and your child. If you take the time to learn about why students from these disadvantaged backgrounds need such a program, you can explain it to your kid. After all, people of color are forced to have very serious conversations with their kids about things like police brutality and racial profiling, so your kid will survive.

Please do some self-reflection because you may be passing down your unconscious (or conscious) prejudice to your child.

Not OP, but the issue is assuming that kids who are Black and Hispanic come from “disadvantaged backgrounds” and assuming that White and Asian kids do not, when there are some very privileged Black and Hispanic kids in this area and some White and Asian kids, particularly Asian, who aren’t advantaged at all. I’d hope a parent of a disadvantaged White or Asian kid would find a way to express their child’s interest in a program like YS, if appropriate, and would not be turned away, but some might simply infer from the background materials that their kids aren’t welcome.

The program identifies kids that could benefit, so yes, a white or Asian kid who is economically disadvantaged will likely be identified. I know one of those kids (white).

Yes, the program has white and Asian kids in it. Stop making things up.

These are the same parents that don't understand why FCPS doesn't listen to them or take their advice.

[Anonymous]

I'm against 99% of what FCPS does -- including their ridiculous recent survey to families that actually asked whether your kids were gay, nonbinary or transgender as part of an EDUCATIONAL survey -- but I have always supported Young Scholars. I believe that the way to close the achievement gap is to provide disadvantaged kids at a young age opportunities that my kids already receive by virtue of our SES. I will even go further and say that I think Young Scholars should include test prep for the AAP tests.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, this is a great teaching moment for you and your child. If you take the time to learn about why students from these disadvantaged backgrounds need such a program, you can explain it to your kid. After all, people of color are forced to have very serious conversations with their kids about things like police brutality and racial profiling, so your kid will survive.

Please do some self-reflection because you may be passing down your unconscious (or conscious) prejudice to your child.

It is a good opportunity to explain that my kids and the young scholars are not at fault here and that this segregation exists because misguided adults chose to separate children because of the color of their skin or the jobs some parents have. It’s a good lesson.

So I can explain to my kid why 75% of his classmates at Mt. Vernon are Hispanic and Black. Because misguided adults vote for policy and decisions that keep them de facto segregated away from blending in with everyone else. Because of the color of their skin, others avoid going to school with them.

[Anonymous]

I wonder how many of the people opposed to young scholars are the same people saying the right answer to TJ admissions is reaching disadvantaged students when they are younger

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, this is a great teaching moment for you and your child. If you take the time to learn about why students from these disadvantaged backgrounds need such a program, you can explain it to your kid. After all, people of color are forced to have very serious conversations with their kids about things like police brutality and racial profiling, so your kid will survive.

Please do some self-reflection because you may be passing down your unconscious (or conscious) prejudice to your child.

It is a good opportunity to explain that my kids and the young scholars are not at fault here and that this segregation exists because misguided adults chose to separate children because of the color of their skin or the jobs some parents have. It’s a good lesson.

So I can explain to my kid why 75% of his classmates at Mt. Vernon are Hispanic and Black. Because misguided adults vote for policy and decisions that keep them de facto segregated away from blending in with everyone else. Because of the color of their skin, others avoid going to school with them.

So then you agree that Young Scholars criteria is wrong?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, this is a great teaching moment for you and your child. If you take the time to learn about why students from these disadvantaged backgrounds need such a program, you can explain it to your kid. After all, people of color are forced to have very serious conversations with their kids about things like police brutality and racial profiling, so your kid will survive.

Please do some self-reflection because you may be passing down your unconscious (or conscious) prejudice to your child.

It is a good opportunity to explain that my kids and the young scholars are not at fault here and that this segregation exists because misguided adults chose to separate children because of the color of their skin or the jobs some parents have. It’s a good lesson.

PP, I think a lot of FCPS's "equity" language is nonsense, but your post is ridiculous. Do you also want your child without disabilities to have an IEP? Frankly, if this is even on your radar as a problem, you live a privileged life. Move along.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, this is a great teaching moment for you and your child. If you take the time to learn about why students from these disadvantaged backgrounds need such a program, you can explain it to your kid. After all, people of color are forced to have very serious conversations with their kids about things like police brutality and racial profiling, so your kid will survive.

Please do some self-reflection because you may be passing down your unconscious (or conscious) prejudice to your child.

It is a good opportunity to explain that my kids and the young scholars are not at fault here and that this segregation exists because misguided adults chose to separate children because of the color of their skin or the jobs some parents have. It’s a good lesson.

PP, I think a lot of FCPS's "equity" language is nonsense, but your post is ridiculous. Do you also want your child without disabilities to have an IEP? Frankly, if this is even on your radar as a problem, you live a privileged life. Move along.

It's pretty simple. This program admits based on the color of a kids skin... to support kids who may be disadvantaged because of the color of their skin? Why not just have a program like this for everyone to be encouraged achieve their best? Everyone can gain something from this kind of program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The latest Asra Nomani “revelations” about Young Scholars are based on some communication Glenn Miller, another GOP activist, recently came across at Cooper MS.

If there’s anything that unites Republican like Miller and Democrats like Elaine Tholen, it’s making sure that Cooper MS and Langley HS have as few kids as possible who might ever be logical candidates for a program like Young Scholars.

This thread is more evidence that DCUM is being used by Asra and cronies for their political efforts to destroy FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The latest Asra Nomani “revelations” about Young Scholars are based on some communication Glenn Miller, another GOP activist, recently came across at Cooper MS.

If there’s anything that unites Republican like Miller and Democrats like Elaine Tholen, it’s making sure that Cooper MS and Langley HS have as few kids as possible who might ever be logical candidates for a program like Young Scholars.

This thread is more evidence that DCUM is being used by Asra and cronies for their political efforts to destroy FCPS.

Is this why Young Scholars is randomly being targeted in this thread? Makes sense...the program has been around for 20 years, but the group of loons needs to drum up weekly fresh outrage. How exhausting.

[Anonymous]

Still waiting for OP to tell us specifically what her child missed out on and was upset about.

[Anonymous]

The criteria for YS is 3-fold— shows signs of capability for advanced learning, member of an underrepresented group, AND faces barriers to access acceleration/enrichment. You don’t get in just for skin color. If schools are not identifying using those criteria, they are not following policy.