Young Scholars Admittance

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Anonymous wrote:It just seems unfair that my kid hears about this stuff and asks if they can do it, and I have to tell them no. Then when they ask why, I have to tell them that it's not our fault. Essentially though, its discrimination.

My kid could absolutely benefit from cool STEM trips.

So can mine, which is why we did a sleep in at the Maryland Science Center with a bunch of kids in his STEM Club. I can provide him those opportunities but the kids in Young Scholars come from backgrounds where they are not likely to have those type of opportunities, even participating in a STEM.

Does your child have the opportunity to participate in extra curricular activities or visit museums or participate in enrichment because of where you are as a family? If so, then provide those options for you child. If not, then I would conduct further investigation into the Young Scholars program. My family can provide those opportunities for my kid and we choose to do so. I am glad that FCPS has a program to try and provide similar, but probably not the same quality of opportunities I can provide my kid, for kids who don't have access to those programs through their parents.

we are a pretty busy and do the best we can to provide those kinds of opportunities but when their friends get to do this stuff, they'd like to join. It's always great to be part of a peer group when exploring these things. If they're enrichment that the school can provide, then it should be an option for all. why not open this program to everyone? All kids rich or poor can benefit from exploring these topics together.

You're too busy to do it yourself but you want the school to do it for your kid. That is what I am hearing. I have the money to provide those opportunities for my child and it is important to me so I make the time. The kids in Young Scholars are supposed to be kids who don't have the money or support at home and who are interested and who could benefit from the challenge. It is a way to help bridge the education gap that exists, mainly due to income difference, lack of information about programs, and a lack of family support for enrichment.

If you are in a position to provide that, then do so. There are clubs and programs that it sounds like you could provide if you decide to prioritize it. My kid loves STEM so we found clubs and programs that he enjoys. He likes them because he is with other kids who enjoy STEM as well. So we make the time. Your response says to me "it sounds great but we are busy with other things so we don't prioritize it but he should be able to participate through the school program because it sounds cool and will save us the time in doing it on our own."

Kinda call bullish*t on this, especially when you know the other families and the only thing that sets you apart is you are white and they are not.

You sound so ridiculous it's embarrassing. Let me gues, you cry every February about there being no white history month?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It just seems unfair that my kid hears about this stuff and asks if they can do it, and I have to tell them no. Then when they ask why, I have to tell them that it's not our fault. Essentially though, its discrimination.

My kid could absolutely benefit from cool STEM trips.

So can mine, which is why we did a sleep in at the Maryland Science Center with a bunch of kids in his STEM Club. I can provide him those opportunities but the kids in Young Scholars come from backgrounds where they are not likely to have those type of opportunities, even participating in a STEM.

Does your child have the opportunity to participate in extra curricular activities or visit museums or participate in enrichment because of where you are as a family? If so, then provide those options for you child. If not, then I would conduct further investigation into the Young Scholars program. My family can provide those opportunities for my kid and we choose to do so. I am glad that FCPS has a program to try and provide similar, but probably not the same quality of opportunities I can provide my kid, for kids who don't have access to those programs through their parents.

we are a pretty busy and do the best we can to provide those kinds of opportunities but when their friends get to do this stuff, they'd like to join. It's always great to be part of a peer group when exploring these things. If they're enrichment that the school can provide, then it should be an option for all. why not open this program to everyone? All kids rich or poor can benefit from exploring these topics together.

You're too busy to do it yourself but you want the school to do it for your kid. That is what I am hearing. I have the money to provide those opportunities for my child and it is important to me so I make the time. The kids in Young Scholars are supposed to be kids who don't have the money or support at home and who are interested and who could benefit from the challenge. It is a way to help bridge the education gap that exists, mainly due to income difference, lack of information about programs, and a lack of family support for enrichment.

If you are in a position to provide that, then do so. There are clubs and programs that it sounds like you could provide if you decide to prioritize it. My kid loves STEM so we found clubs and programs that he enjoys. He likes them because he is with other kids who enjoy STEM as well. So we make the time. Your response says to me "it sounds great but we are busy with other things so we don't prioritize it but he should be able to participate through the school program because it sounds cool and will save us the time in doing it on our own."

well yeah. the school is doing something cool and my kid would like to participate in the event with some of their friends. Is that bad?

You could ask your kid if they want to do things like that and then find those programs and enroll your kid in them. There are kids at your kids school who can’t afford those programs or don’t have the support to do it other then their parents being “too busy” or your family being “too busy.” Essentially you sound like you have a choice and choose to prioritize other things. The kids in Young Scholars are supposed to be kids who have obstacles that prevent them from participating.

It sounds like you could even organize an outing with your kid and his friends, which is what we do.

Do you complain that the kid who is a grade level or two behind has extra time with a reading Teacher? Or that the kid who has dyslexia works with a reading specialist at school? Or the kid who is behind in math has someone spend extra time with them on math?

Young Scholars is supposed to be for bright kids who are traditionally under represented in AAP to develop the skills and curiosity to be able to participate in a program like AAP. it is supposed to help kids from backgrounds with less catch up with kids who have more opportunities.

It is not for my kid who goes to science club and RSM on the weekends because he likes STEM. We can afford the club and RSM, he enjoys it, so we make the time for it. We don’t go and look for extra math time at school or to participate in Young Scholars.

Well I guess this is all unnecessary. We can just invite ourselves to the program. But I enjoyed your defense of this discrimination either way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It just seems unfair that my kid hears about this stuff and asks if they can do it, and I have to tell them no. Then when they ask why, I have to tell them that it's not our fault. Essentially though, its discrimination.

My kid could absolutely benefit from cool STEM trips.

So can mine, which is why we did a sleep in at the Maryland Science Center with a bunch of kids in his STEM Club. I can provide him those opportunities but the kids in Young Scholars come from backgrounds where they are not likely to have those type of opportunities, even participating in a STEM.

Does your child have the opportunity to participate in extra curricular activities or visit museums or participate in enrichment because of where you are as a family? If so, then provide those options for you child. If not, then I would conduct further investigation into the Young Scholars program. My family can provide those opportunities for my kid and we choose to do so. I am glad that FCPS has a program to try and provide similar, but probably not the same quality of opportunities I can provide my kid, for kids who don't have access to those programs through their parents.

we are a pretty busy and do the best we can to provide those kinds of opportunities but when their friends get to do this stuff, they'd like to join. It's always great to be part of a peer group when exploring these things. If they're enrichment that the school can provide, then it should be an option for all. why not open this program to everyone? All kids rich or poor can benefit from exploring these topics together.

You're too busy to do it yourself but you want the school to do it for your kid. That is what I am hearing. I have the money to provide those opportunities for my child and it is important to me so I make the time. The kids in Young Scholars are supposed to be kids who don't have the money or support at home and who are interested and who could benefit from the challenge. It is a way to help bridge the education gap that exists, mainly due to income difference, lack of information about programs, and a lack of family support for enrichment.

If you are in a position to provide that, then do so. There are clubs and programs that it sounds like you could provide if you decide to prioritize it. My kid loves STEM so we found clubs and programs that he enjoys. He likes them because he is with other kids who enjoy STEM as well. So we make the time. Your response says to me "it sounds great but we are busy with other things so we don't prioritize it but he should be able to participate through the school program because it sounds cool and will save us the time in doing it on our own."

Kinda call bullish*t on this, especially when you know the other families and the only thing that sets you apart is you are white and they are not.

You sound so ridiculous it's embarrassing. Let me gues, you cry every February about there being no white history month?

So this discrimination is just... different? lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It just seems unfair that my kid hears about this stuff and asks if they can do it, and I have to tell them no. Then when they ask why, I have to tell them that it's not our fault. Essentially though, its discrimination.

My kid could absolutely benefit from cool STEM trips.

Not every activity is for everyone, tell them to get used to it. It’s a life lesson.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It just seems unfair that my kid hears about this stuff and asks if they can do it, and I have to tell them no. Then when they ask why, I have to tell them that it's not our fault. Essentially though, its discrimination.

My kid could absolutely benefit from cool STEM trips.

Not every activity is for everyone, tell them to get used to it. It’s a life lesson.

Then what is this equity nonsense all about?

[Anonymous]

Call the program director and ask how to be admitted.

At my school we start looking out in kinder for kids who might qualify for young scholars. Many of these kids end up in AAP regardless of the program.

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Anonymous wrote:Id never heard of this before and found out about a bunch of field trips and activities going on at DC school. DC brought it up and we don't qualify based on the following criteria, but this seems kind of crazy. Is FCPS even allowed to do this? Are there alternatives for people who don't qualify?

Young Scholars is:

Designed to identify and nurture students with high academic potential from historically underrepresented groups* in Advanced Academic Programs (AAP) and courses
A strategy to increase access to rigor found in:
The FCPS strategic plan.
The Closing the Achievement Gap framework.
In addition to, not a replacement of, advanced learning opportunities from the FCPS AAP continuum of services.
*Twice exceptional, English Learners, Black, Hispanic, or economically vulnerable

"equity"

Here's what they offer: https://www.fcps.edu/academics/elementary-school-academics/k-6advanced-academics/young-scholars-k-12

It seems like a way to encourage smart kids whose families may not view college as a possible outcome to stay on a college path.

My AAP kid did it last year for the summer. Not sure what she got out of it. I was confused why she qualified. Maybe an ADHD diagnosis?

[Anonymous]

Give us examples, OP. What exactly have the young scholars done in your school, when did those events happen, and what did your baby cry about?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It just seems unfair that my kid hears about this stuff and asks if they can do it, and I have to tell them no. Then when they ask why, I have to tell them that it's not our fault. Essentially though, its discrimination.

My kid could absolutely benefit from cool STEM trips.

So can mine, which is why we did a sleep in at the Maryland Science Center with a bunch of kids in his STEM Club. I can provide him those opportunities but the kids in Young Scholars come from backgrounds where they are not likely to have those type of opportunities, even participating in a STEM.

Does your child have the opportunity to participate in extra curricular activities or visit museums or participate in enrichment because of where you are as a family? If so, then provide those options for you child. If not, then I would conduct further investigation into the Young Scholars program. My family can provide those opportunities for my kid and we choose to do so. I am glad that FCPS has a program to try and provide similar, but probably not the same quality of opportunities I can provide my kid, for kids who don't have access to those programs through their parents.

we are a pretty busy and do the best we can to provide those kinds of opportunities but when their friends get to do this stuff, they'd like to join. It's always great to be part of a peer group when exploring these things. If they're enrichment that the school can provide, then it should be an option for all. why not open this program to everyone? All kids rich or poor can benefit from exploring these topics together.

You're too busy to do it yourself but you want the school to do it for your kid. That is what I am hearing. I have the money to provide those opportunities for my child and it is important to me so I make the time. The kids in Young Scholars are supposed to be kids who don't have the money or support at home and who are interested and who could benefit from the challenge. It is a way to help bridge the education gap that exists, mainly due to income difference, lack of information about programs, and a lack of family support for enrichment.

If you are in a position to provide that, then do so. There are clubs and programs that it sounds like you could provide if you decide to prioritize it. My kid loves STEM so we found clubs and programs that he enjoys. He likes them because he is with other kids who enjoy STEM as well. So we make the time. Your response says to me "it sounds great but we are busy with other things so we don't prioritize it but he should be able to participate through the school program because it sounds cool and will save us the time in doing it on our own."

Well I think only blacks and Hispanics should have access to free public school. After all white ans asian kids parents can afford private school or home.school so why should these overrepresented groups expect free education? Such privileges- really sickening. Let's separate kids by skin color and only let in blacks and Hispanics into public school buildings. Aym Rand was white after all so no white kids deserve free public education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It just seems unfair that my kid hears about this stuff and asks if they can do it, and I have to tell them no. Then when they ask why, I have to tell them that it's not our fault. Essentially though, its discrimination.

My kid could absolutely benefit from cool STEM trips.

Not every activity is for everyone, tell them to get used to it. It’s a life lesson.

Then what is this equity nonsense all about?

Its all DCUM fear-mongering. FCPS is not trying to give everyone the same thing.

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OP, this is a great teaching moment for you and your child. If you take the time to learn about why students from these disadvantaged backgrounds need such a program, you can explain it to your kid. After all, people of color are forced to have very serious conversations with their kids about things like police brutality and racial profiling, so your kid will survive.

Please do some self-reflection because you may be passing down your unconscious (or conscious) prejudice to your child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, this is a great teaching moment for you and your child. If you take the time to learn about why students from these disadvantaged backgrounds need such a program, you can explain it to your kid. After all, people of color are forced to have very serious conversations with their kids about things like police brutality and racial profiling, so your kid will survive.

Please do some self-reflection because you may be passing down your unconscious (or conscious) prejudice to your child.

Not OP, but the issue is assuming that kids who are Black and Hispanic come from “disadvantaged backgrounds” and assuming that White and Asian kids do not, when there are some very privileged Black and Hispanic kids in this area and some White and Asian kids, particularly Asian, who aren’t advantaged at all. I’d hope a parent of a disadvantaged White or Asian kid would find a way to express their child’s interest in a program like YS, if appropriate, and would not be turned away, but some might simply infer from the background materials that their kids aren’t welcome.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, this is a great teaching moment for you and your child. If you take the time to learn about why students from these disadvantaged backgrounds need such a program, you can explain it to your kid. After all, people of color are forced to have very serious conversations with their kids about things like police brutality and racial profiling, so your kid will survive.

Please do some self-reflection because you may be passing down your unconscious (or conscious) prejudice to your child.

Not OP, but the issue is assuming that kids who are Black and Hispanic come from “disadvantaged backgrounds” and assuming that White and Asian kids do not, when there are some very privileged Black and Hispanic kids in this area and some White and Asian kids, particularly Asian, who aren’t advantaged at all. I’d hope a parent of a disadvantaged White or Asian kid would find a way to express their child’s interest in a program like YS, if appropriate, and would not be turned away, but some might simply infer from the background materials that their kids aren’t welcome.

The program identifies kids that could benefit, so yes, a white or Asian kid who is economically disadvantaged will likely be identified. I know one of those kids (white).

[Anonymous]

the lady complaining about young scholars should have to sit through the IEP process for a 2e kid to see how unfair FCPS is to these groups.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, this is a great teaching moment for you and your child. If you take the time to learn about why students from these disadvantaged backgrounds need such a program, you can explain it to your kid. After all, people of color are forced to have very serious conversations with their kids about things like police brutality and racial profiling, so your kid will survive.

Please do some self-reflection because you may be passing down your unconscious (or conscious) prejudice to your child.

Not OP, but the issue is assuming that kids who are Black and Hispanic come from “disadvantaged backgrounds” and assuming that White and Asian kids do not, when there are some very privileged Black and Hispanic kids in this area and some White and Asian kids, particularly Asian, who aren’t advantaged at all. I’d hope a parent of a disadvantaged White or Asian kid would find a way to express their child’s interest in a program like YS, if appropriate, and would not be turned away, but some might simply infer from the background materials that their kids aren’t welcome.

The program identifies kids that could benefit, so yes, a white or Asian kid who is economically disadvantaged will likely be identified. I know one of those kids (white).

Yes, the program has white and Asian kids in it. Stop making things up.