Sorority recruitment

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clear that a lot of people attacking sororities on this thread have no clue how sorority bid matching works. The system, by design, gives every girl who participates in preference night parties (the last night of rush) a bid. Each house is only allowed a certain number of bids which is determined by dividing the overall number of girls participating by the number of houses. So, if there are 3 houses and 75 girls still rushing, each sorority is limited to 25 bids max. A popular sorority probably could give out two or three times as many bids, but they aren’t allowed to as the system wants each house to have an equal shot at a full pledge class.

The sororities rank just as the girls do. A sorority might love the 36th girl on their list but she still won’t get a bid from them if their quota is reached. The matching between lists is not done by the sororities themselves (they just turn in their list) , and they are sometimes as surprised by the results as the girls rushing. It’s an imperfect system but designed to give every girl an option, and to have as many full (aka vibrant) sorority houses on campus as possible.

I am sure it is momentarily devastating not to get the most desired house. But I hope that we are raising our daughters with enough resilience and grit that they can accept this disappointment and move on, just as they would do if they don’t make a varsity team or first chair in orchestra.

+1000 this. Its not personal and no some of the girls in the sororities themselves don't even know who was dropped. Its all fed into the computer and the computer matches. No one is snickering about the rushees behind their back, unless they are in the top houses that don't even give people a chance if they don't know them, but again why would you want to be with that group? Just because some boys think they are the prettiest?

It’s 100% personal. Otherwise there would be no rush- it would be a blind lottery. What do you think that information “fed into the computer” is ??? It’s votes based on how many girls “want” you based on the 10 minutes they spend with you and how many mutual friends you already have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clear that a lot of people attacking sororities on this thread have no clue how sorority bid matching works. The system, by design, gives every girl who participates in preference night parties (the last night of rush) a bid. Each house is only allowed a certain number of bids which is determined by dividing the overall number of girls participating by the number of houses. So, if there are 3 houses and 75 girls still rushing, each sorority is limited to 25 bids max. A popular sorority probably could give out two or three times as many bids, but they aren’t allowed to as the system wants each house to have an equal shot at a full pledge class.

The sororities rank just as the girls do. A sorority might love the 36th girl on their list but she still won’t get a bid from them if their quota is reached. The matching between lists is not done by the sororities themselves (they just turn in their list) , and they are sometimes as surprised by the results as the girls rushing. It’s an imperfect system but designed to give every girl an option, and to have as many full (aka vibrant) sorority houses on campus as possible.

I am sure it is momentarily devastating not to get the most desired house. But I hope that we are raising our daughters with enough resilience and grit that they can accept this disappointment and move on, just as they would do if they don’t make a varsity team or first chair in orchestra.

+1000 this. Its not personal and no some of the girls in the sororities themselves don't even know who was dropped. Its all fed into the computer and the computer matches. No one is snickering about the rushees behind their back, unless they are in the top houses that don't even give people a chance if they don't know them, but again why would you want to be with that group? Just because some boys think they are the prettiest?

It’s 100% personal. Otherwise there would be no rush- it would be a blind lottery. What do you think that information “fed into the computer” is ??? It’s votes based on how many girls “want” you based on the 10 minutes they spend with you and how many mutual friends you already have.

Again my DD just went through rush. She spoke with rushees for 20 min the first day and rated them on many things (official rating sheets) including enthusiasm for the house, their communication skills, whether they were engaged in the discussion and asking good questions. None of these ratings had anything to do with looks wealth, boyfriends, drinking etc. It is all just trying to determine if this person is interested in the house and able/willing to communicate well. Do you think that is too high a bar?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clear that a lot of people attacking sororities on this thread have no clue how sorority bid matching works. The system, by design, gives every girl who participates in preference night parties (the last night of rush) a bid. Each house is only allowed a certain number of bids which is determined by dividing the overall number of girls participating by the number of houses. So, if there are 3 houses and 75 girls still rushing, each sorority is limited to 25 bids max. A popular sorority probably could give out two or three times as many bids, but they aren’t allowed to as the system wants each house to have an equal shot at a full pledge class.

The sororities rank just as the girls do. A sorority might love the 36th girl on their list but she still won’t get a bid from them if their quota is reached. The matching between lists is not done by the sororities themselves (they just turn in their list) , and they are sometimes as surprised by the results as the girls rushing. It’s an imperfect system but designed to give every girl an option, and to have as many full (aka vibrant) sorority houses on campus as possible.

I am sure it is momentarily devastating not to get the most desired house. But I hope that we are raising our daughters with enough resilience and grit that they can accept this disappointment and move on, just as they would do if they don’t make a varsity team or first chair in orchestra.

Huge difference: They make the varsity team or first chair in orchestra based on actual Talent/skills. "making the sorority" is based on appearance, whether the right people like you, family money, where you vacation, etc. Very different situations.

are offers ever made based on a pledge's boyfriend and which frat they are in?

My DD is IN a sorority and at no point are they even asking if they have a boyfriend much less if they are in a frat. In fact, it's technically against rush rules to talk about boys and drinking.

I can assure you that in the "Top Sororities" they don't need to ask/talk about it. The members already know this, even if "it's technically against rush rules to talk about boys and drinking"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clear that a lot of people attacking sororities on this thread have no clue how sorority bid matching works. The system, by design, gives every girl who participates in preference night parties (the last night of rush) a bid. Each house is only allowed a certain number of bids which is determined by dividing the overall number of girls participating by the number of houses. So, if there are 3 houses and 75 girls still rushing, each sorority is limited to 25 bids max. A popular sorority probably could give out two or three times as many bids, but they aren’t allowed to as the system wants each house to have an equal shot at a full pledge class.

The sororities rank just as the girls do. A sorority might love the 36th girl on their list but she still won’t get a bid from them if their quota is reached. The matching between lists is not done by the sororities themselves (they just turn in their list) , and they are sometimes as surprised by the results as the girls rushing. It’s an imperfect system but designed to give every girl an option, and to have as many full (aka vibrant) sorority houses on campus as possible.

I am sure it is momentarily devastating not to get the most desired house. But I hope that we are raising our daughters with enough resilience and grit that they can accept this disappointment and move on, just as they would do if they don’t make a varsity team or first chair in orchestra.

+1000 this. Its not personal and no some of the girls in the sororities themselves don't even know who was dropped. Its all fed into the computer and the computer matches. No one is snickering about the rushees behind their back, unless they are in the top houses that don't even give people a chance if they don't know them, but again why would you want to be with that group? Just because some boys think they are the prettiest?

It’s 100% personal. Otherwise there would be no rush- it would be a blind lottery. What do you think that information “fed into the computer” is ??? It’s votes based on how many girls “want” you based on the 10 minutes they spend with you and how many mutual friends you already have.

Again my DD just went through rush. She spoke with rushees for 20 min the first day and rated them on many things (official rating sheets) including enthusiasm for the house, their communication skills, whether they were engaged in the discussion and asking good questions. None of these ratings had anything to do with looks wealth, boyfriends, drinking etc. It is all just trying to determine if this person is interested in the house and able/willing to communicate well. Do you think that is too high a bar?

Do you really think that what actually happens?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clear that a lot of people attacking sororities on this thread have no clue how sorority bid matching works. The system, by design, gives every girl who participates in preference night parties (the last night of rush) a bid. Each house is only allowed a certain number of bids which is determined by dividing the overall number of girls participating by the number of houses. So, if there are 3 houses and 75 girls still rushing, each sorority is limited to 25 bids max. A popular sorority probably could give out two or three times as many bids, but they aren’t allowed to as the system wants each house to have an equal shot at a full pledge class.

The sororities rank just as the girls do. A sorority might love the 36th girl on their list but she still won’t get a bid from them if their quota is reached. The matching between lists is not done by the sororities themselves (they just turn in their list) , and they are sometimes as surprised by the results as the girls rushing. It’s an imperfect system but designed to give every girl an option, and to have as many full (aka vibrant) sorority houses on campus as possible.

I am sure it is momentarily devastating not to get the most desired house. But I hope that we are raising our daughters with enough resilience and grit that they can accept this disappointment and move on, just as they would do if they don’t make a varsity team or first chair in orchestra.

+1000 this. Its not personal and no some of the girls in the sororities themselves don't even know who was dropped. Its all fed into the computer and the computer matches. No one is snickering about the rushees behind their back, unless they are in the top houses that don't even give people a chance if they don't know them, but again why would you want to be with that group? Just because some boys think they are the prettiest?

It’s 100% personal. Otherwise there would be no rush- it would be a blind lottery. What do you think that information “fed into the computer” is ??? It’s votes based on how many girls “want” you based on the 10 minutes they spend with you and how many mutual friends you already have.

Again my DD just went through rush. She spoke with rushees for 20 min the first day and rated them on many things (official rating sheets) including enthusiasm for the house, their communication skills, whether they were engaged in the discussion and asking good questions. None of these ratings had anything to do with looks wealth, boyfriends, drinking etc. It is all just trying to determine if this person is interested in the house and able/willing to communicate well. Do you think that is too high a bar?

Do you really think that what actually happens?

+1

Imagine the nightmare rushing would be for an introvert. Rush is a popularity contest at most schools. Yes, for some it works out well. But for many it is a mental health nightmare. I watched it fall freshman year eons ago. It was brutal and watching the girls switch attitudes about the groups each day based on who "invited them back" was amusing---they were just so desperate for someone to like them. Any friends they had made (in the 4 days on campus before rush started) were pushed aside if they were not in same sorority as pledging took way too much time for outside friends. Much healthier for kids to make friends the normal way---join clubs, meet people and hang out over many weeks. Rather than being "matched" based on 10 min speed dates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clear that a lot of people attacking sororities on this thread have no clue how sorority bid matching works. The system, by design, gives every girl who participates in preference night parties (the last night of rush) a bid. Each house is only allowed a certain number of bids which is determined by dividing the overall number of girls participating by the number of houses. So, if there are 3 houses and 75 girls still rushing, each sorority is limited to 25 bids max. A popular sorority probably could give out two or three times as many bids, but they aren’t allowed to as the system wants each house to have an equal shot at a full pledge class.

The sororities rank just as the girls do. A sorority might love the 36th girl on their list but she still won’t get a bid from them if their quota is reached. The matching between lists is not done by the sororities themselves (they just turn in their list) , and they are sometimes as surprised by the results as the girls rushing. It’s an imperfect system but designed to give every girl an option, and to have as many full (aka vibrant) sorority houses on campus as possible.

I am sure it is momentarily devastating not to get the most desired house. But I hope that we are raising our daughters with enough resilience and grit that they can accept this disappointment and move on, just as they would do if they don’t make a varsity team or first chair in orchestra.

+1000 this. Its not personal and no some of the girls in the sororities themselves don't even know who was dropped. Its all fed into the computer and the computer matches. No one is snickering about the rushees behind their back, unless they are in the top houses that don't even give people a chance if they don't know them, but again why would you want to be with that group? Just because some boys think they are the prettiest?

It’s 100% personal. Otherwise there would be no rush- it would be a blind lottery. What do you think that information “fed into the computer” is ??? It’s votes based on how many girls “want” you based on the 10 minutes they spend with you and how many mutual friends you already have.

Again my DD just went through rush. She spoke with rushees for 20 min the first day and rated them on many things (official rating sheets) including enthusiasm for the house, their communication skills, whether they were engaged in the discussion and asking good questions. None of these ratings had anything to do with looks wealth, boyfriends, drinking etc. It is all just trying to determine if this person is interested in the house and able/willing to communicate well. Do you think that is too high a bar?

Then it’s just a coincidence that most of the young women are beautiful, dress well and are popular?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clear that a lot of people attacking sororities on this thread have no clue how sorority bid matching works. The system, by design, gives every girl who participates in preference night parties (the last night of rush) a bid. Each house is only allowed a certain number of bids which is determined by dividing the overall number of girls participating by the number of houses. So, if there are 3 houses and 75 girls still rushing, each sorority is limited to 25 bids max. A popular sorority probably could give out two or three times as many bids, but they aren’t allowed to as the system wants each house to have an equal shot at a full pledge class.

The sororities rank just as the girls do. A sorority might love the 36th girl on their list but she still won’t get a bid from them if their quota is reached. The matching between lists is not done by the sororities themselves (they just turn in their list) , and they are sometimes as surprised by the results as the girls rushing. It’s an imperfect system but designed to give every girl an option, and to have as many full (aka vibrant) sorority houses on campus as possible.

I am sure it is momentarily devastating not to get the most desired house. But I hope that we are raising our daughters with enough resilience and grit that they can accept this disappointment and move on, just as they would do if they don’t make a varsity team or first chair in orchestra.

+1000 this. Its not personal and no some of the girls in the sororities themselves don't even know who was dropped. Its all fed into the computer and the computer matches. No one is snickering about the rushees behind their back, unless they are in the top houses that don't even give people a chance if they don't know them, but again why would you want to be with that group? Just because some boys think they are the prettiest?

It’s 100% personal. Otherwise there would be no rush- it would be a blind lottery. What do you think that information “fed into the computer” is ??? It’s votes based on how many girls “want” you based on the 10 minutes they spend with you and how many mutual friends you already have.

There is a computer element to it but it ABSOLUTELY personal on some level. The girls vote on recruits. The girls are able to give personal opinions. In fact, I lost my sh-- on one of my "sisters" who was really, really, REAALLY rude about someone who came through one of our houses. Her comments were pointed, thinly veiled criticisms of her looks, and just not ok.

I spent 3 years in sorority, though my last year I was pretty checked out as I had family issues and was preparing for grad school. I didn't dislike my time but I also wouldn't encourage it either. But to say rush is not personal is a flat out lie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clear that a lot of people attacking sororities on this thread have no clue how sorority bid matching works. The system, by design, gives every girl who participates in preference night parties (the last night of rush) a bid. Each house is only allowed a certain number of bids which is determined by dividing the overall number of girls participating by the number of houses. So, if there are 3 houses and 75 girls still rushing, each sorority is limited to 25 bids max. A popular sorority probably could give out two or three times as many bids, but they aren’t allowed to as the system wants each house to have an equal shot at a full pledge class.

The sororities rank just as the girls do. A sorority might love the 36th girl on their list but she still won’t get a bid from them if their quota is reached. The matching between lists is not done by the sororities themselves (they just turn in their list) , and they are sometimes as surprised by the results as the girls rushing. It’s an imperfect system but designed to give every girl an option, and to have as many full (aka vibrant) sorority houses on campus as possible.

I am sure it is momentarily devastating not to get the most desired house. But I hope that we are raising our daughters with enough resilience and grit that they can accept this disappointment and move on, just as they would do if they don’t make a varsity team or first chair in orchestra.

+1000 this. Its not personal and no some of the girls in the sororities themselves don't even know who was dropped. Its all fed into the computer and the computer matches. No one is snickering about the rushees behind their back, unless they are in the top houses that don't even give people a chance if they don't know them, but again why would you want to be with that group? Just because some boys think they are the prettiest?

It’s 100% personal. Otherwise there would be no rush- it would be a blind lottery. What do you think that information “fed into the computer” is ??? It’s votes based on how many girls “want” you based on the 10 minutes they spend with you and how many mutual friends you already have.

Again my DD just went through rush. She spoke with rushees for 20 min the first day and rated them on many things (official rating sheets) including enthusiasm for the house, their communication skills, whether they were engaged in the discussion and asking good questions. None of these ratings had anything to do with looks wealth, boyfriends, drinking etc. It is all just trying to determine if this person is interested in the house and able/willing to communicate well. Do you think that is too high a bar?

Even if that's true, and I don't believe that for one minute but fine, you surely understand everyone is not like your daughter. I experienced exactly the opposite and I wasn't even at a southern blonde university sorority; just a frumpy Big Midwest U. But somehow all of the "pretty", thin, well-dressed/trendy girls ended up in the same 3 houses on campus? Yeah, sure it was their "communications" or interests outside of the sorority? Those things were certainly not irrelevant but, come on. The looks, clothes, boyfriends . . . . they mattered more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clear that a lot of people attacking sororities on this thread have no clue how sorority bid matching works. The system, by design, gives every girl who participates in preference night parties (the last night of rush) a bid. Each house is only allowed a certain number of bids which is determined by dividing the overall number of girls participating by the number of houses. So, if there are 3 houses and 75 girls still rushing, each sorority is limited to 25 bids max. A popular sorority probably could give out two or three times as many bids, but they aren’t allowed to as the system wants each house to have an equal shot at a full pledge class.

The sororities rank just as the girls do. A sorority might love the 36th girl on their list but she still won’t get a bid from them if their quota is reached. The matching between lists is not done by the sororities themselves (they just turn in their list) , and they are sometimes as surprised by the results as the girls rushing. It’s an imperfect system but designed to give every girl an option, and to have as many full (aka vibrant) sorority houses on campus as possible.

I am sure it is momentarily devastating not to get the most desired house. But I hope that we are raising our daughters with enough resilience and grit that they can accept this disappointment and move on, just as they would do if they don’t make a varsity team or first chair in orchestra.

+1000 this. Its not personal and no some of the girls in the sororities themselves don't even know who was dropped. Its all fed into the computer and the computer matches. No one is snickering about the rushees behind their back, unless they are in the top houses that don't even give people a chance if they don't know them, but again why would you want to be with that group? Just because some boys think they are the prettiest?

It’s 100% personal. Otherwise there would be no rush- it would be a blind lottery. What do you think that information “fed into the computer” is ??? It’s votes based on how many girls “want” you based on the 10 minutes they spend with you and how many mutual friends you already have.

Again my DD just went through rush. She spoke with rushees for 20 min the first day and rated them on many things (official rating sheets) including enthusiasm for the house, their communication skills, whether they were engaged in the discussion and asking good questions. None of these ratings had anything to do with looks wealth, boyfriends, drinking etc. It is all just trying to determine if this person is interested in the house and able/willing to communicate well. Do you think that is too high a bar?

Then it’s just a coincidence that most of the young women are beautiful, dress well and are popular?

And know a bunch of the older girls. Dirty rush is how it’s done. They say it’s not allowed but 100% it is how it’s done at the big southern school. I know two girls who didn’t have the grades for the houses they got but one girl worked at the same place as some of the older girls and another had an overly involved mother who knew alums still involved who put pressure on them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clear that a lot of people attacking sororities on this thread have no clue how sorority bid matching works. The system, by design, gives every girl who participates in preference night parties (the last night of rush) a bid. Each house is only allowed a certain number of bids which is determined by dividing the overall number of girls participating by the number of houses. So, if there are 3 houses and 75 girls still rushing, each sorority is limited to 25 bids max. A popular sorority probably could give out two or three times as many bids, but they aren’t allowed to as the system wants each house to have an equal shot at a full pledge class.

The sororities rank just as the girls do. A sorority might love the 36th girl on their list but she still won’t get a bid from them if their quota is reached. The matching between lists is not done by the sororities themselves (they just turn in their list) , and they are sometimes as surprised by the results as the girls rushing. It’s an imperfect system but designed to give every girl an option, and to have as many full (aka vibrant) sorority houses on campus as possible.

I am sure it is momentarily devastating not to get the most desired house. But I hope that we are raising our daughters with enough resilience and grit that they can accept this disappointment and move on, just as they would do if they don’t make a varsity team or first chair in orchestra.

+1000 this. Its not personal and no some of the girls in the sororities themselves don't even know who was dropped. Its all fed into the computer and the computer matches. No one is snickering about the rushees behind their back, unless they are in the top houses that don't even give people a chance if they don't know them, but again why would you want to be with that group? Just because some boys think they are the prettiest?

It’s 100% personal. Otherwise there would be no rush- it would be a blind lottery. What do you think that information “fed into the computer” is ??? It’s votes based on how many girls “want” you based on the 10 minutes they spend with you and how many mutual friends you already have.

There is a computer element to it but it ABSOLUTELY personal on some level. The girls vote on recruits. The girls are able to give personal opinions. In fact, I lost my sh-- on one of my "sisters" who was really, really, REAALLY rude about someone who came through one of our houses. Her comments were pointed, thinly veiled criticisms of her looks, and just not ok.

I spent 3 years in sorority, though my last year I was pretty checked out as I had family issues and was preparing for grad school. I didn't dislike my time but I also wouldn't encourage it either. But to say rush is not personal is a flat out lie.

Yes. “It’s not personal, it’s the computer” is the dumbest lie made up by schools in an attempt to deflect responsibility for the emotional abuse of the process. It’s dumb - and offensive that anyone is supposed to buy that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clear that a lot of people attacking sororities on this thread have no clue how sorority bid matching works. The system, by design, gives every girl who participates in preference night parties (the last night of rush) a bid. Each house is only allowed a certain number of bids which is determined by dividing the overall number of girls participating by the number of houses. So, if there are 3 houses and 75 girls still rushing, each sorority is limited to 25 bids max. A popular sorority probably could give out two or three times as many bids, but they aren’t allowed to as the system wants each house to have an equal shot at a full pledge class.

The sororities rank just as the girls do. A sorority might love the 36th girl on their list but she still won’t get a bid from them if their quota is reached. The matching between lists is not done by the sororities themselves (they just turn in their list) , and they are sometimes as surprised by the results as the girls rushing. It’s an imperfect system but designed to give every girl an option, and to have as many full (aka vibrant) sorority houses on campus as possible.

I am sure it is momentarily devastating not to get the most desired house. But I hope that we are raising our daughters with enough resilience and grit that they can accept this disappointment and move on, just as they would do if they don’t make a varsity team or first chair in orchestra.

+1000 this. Its not personal and no some of the girls in the sororities themselves don't even know who was dropped. Its all fed into the computer and the computer matches. No one is snickering about the rushees behind their back, unless they are in the top houses that don't even give people a chance if they don't know them, but again why would you want to be with that group? Just because some boys think they are the prettiest?

It’s 100% personal. Otherwise there would be no rush- it would be a blind lottery. What do you think that information “fed into the computer” is ??? It’s votes based on how many girls “want” you based on the 10 minutes they spend with you and how many mutual friends you already have.

Again my DD just went through rush. She spoke with rushees for 20 min the first day and rated them on many things (official rating sheets) including enthusiasm for the house, their communication skills, whether they were engaged in the discussion and asking good questions. None of these ratings had anything to do with looks wealth, boyfriends, drinking etc. It is all just trying to determine if this person is interested in the house and able/willing to communicate well. Do you think that is too high a bar?

Do you really think that what actually happens?

I absolutely do, my DD told me all about it. They have very strict rules about what they can ask and sororities were suspended for talking about drinking etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clear that a lot of people attacking sororities on this thread have no clue how sorority bid matching works. The system, by design, gives every girl who participates in preference night parties (the last night of rush) a bid. Each house is only allowed a certain number of bids which is determined by dividing the overall number of girls participating by the number of houses. So, if there are 3 houses and 75 girls still rushing, each sorority is limited to 25 bids max. A popular sorority probably could give out two or three times as many bids, but they aren’t allowed to as the system wants each house to have an equal shot at a full pledge class.

The sororities rank just as the girls do. A sorority might love the 36th girl on their list but she still won’t get a bid from them if their quota is reached. The matching between lists is not done by the sororities themselves (they just turn in their list) , and they are sometimes as surprised by the results as the girls rushing. It’s an imperfect system but designed to give every girl an option, and to have as many full (aka vibrant) sorority houses on campus as possible.

I am sure it is momentarily devastating not to get the most desired house. But I hope that we are raising our daughters with enough resilience and grit that they can accept this disappointment and move on, just as they would do if they don’t make a varsity team or first chair in orchestra.

+1000 this. Its not personal and no some of the girls in the sororities themselves don't even know who was dropped. Its all fed into the computer and the computer matches. No one is snickering about the rushees behind their back, unless they are in the top houses that don't even give people a chance if they don't know them, but again why would you want to be with that group? Just because some boys think they are the prettiest?

It’s 100% personal. Otherwise there would be no rush- it would be a blind lottery. What do you think that information “fed into the computer” is ??? It’s votes based on how many girls “want” you based on the 10 minutes they spend with you and how many mutual friends you already have.

There is a computer element to it but it ABSOLUTELY personal on some level. The girls vote on recruits. The girls are able to give personal opinions. In fact, I lost my sh-- on one of my "sisters" who was really, really, REAALLY rude about someone who came through one of our houses. Her comments were pointed, thinly veiled criticisms of her looks, and just not ok.

I spent 3 years in sorority, though my last year I was pretty checked out as I had family issues and was preparing for grad school. I didn't dislike my time but I also wouldn't encourage it either. But to say rush is not personal is a flat out lie.

not all houses vote on each individual girl. My DD's house did not, her roommates house did.

[Anonymous]

Well anyway here we go with the same old story abut the greek system, and no one is answering the OP's question anymore.

I am sorry that some of your DD's had bad experiences and didn't get into the popular houses. Mine didn't either. She stayed the course and spoke to the houses that did invite her back and is now in a house she truly loves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clear that a lot of people attacking sororities on this thread have no clue how sorority bid matching works. The system, by design, gives every girl who participates in preference night parties (the last night of rush) a bid. Each house is only allowed a certain number of bids which is determined by dividing the overall number of girls participating by the number of houses. So, if there are 3 houses and 75 girls still rushing, each sorority is limited to 25 bids max. A popular sorority probably could give out two or three times as many bids, but they aren’t allowed to as the system wants each house to have an equal shot at a full pledge class.

The sororities rank just as the girls do. A sorority might love the 36th girl on their list but she still won’t get a bid from them if their quota is reached. The matching between lists is not done by the sororities themselves (they just turn in their list) , and they are sometimes as surprised by the results as the girls rushing. It’s an imperfect system but designed to give every girl an option, and to have as many full (aka vibrant) sorority houses on campus as possible.

I am sure it is momentarily devastating not to get the most desired house. But I hope that we are raising our daughters with enough resilience and grit that they can accept this disappointment and move on, just as they would do if they don’t make a varsity team or first chair in orchestra.

+1000 this. Its not personal and no some of the girls in the sororities themselves don't even know who was dropped. Its all fed into the computer and the computer matches. No one is snickering about the rushees behind their back, unless they are in the top houses that don't even give people a chance if they don't know them, but again why would you want to be with that group? Just because some boys think they are the prettiest?

It’s 100% personal. Otherwise there would be no rush- it would be a blind lottery. What do you think that information “fed into the computer” is ??? It’s votes based on how many girls “want” you based on the 10 minutes they spend with you and how many mutual friends you already have.

Again my DD just went through rush. She spoke with rushees for 20 min the first day and rated them on many things (official rating sheets) including enthusiasm for the house, their communication skills, whether they were engaged in the discussion and asking good questions. None of these ratings had anything to do with looks wealth, boyfriends, drinking etc. It is all just trying to determine if this person is interested in the house and able/willing to communicate well. Do you think that is too high a bar?

Do you really think that what actually happens?

I absolutely do, my DD told me all about it. They have very strict rules about what they can ask and sororities were suspended for talking about drinking etc.

You can score someone low on enthusiasm for the house or any other category because they are poor/fat/quiet... as long as you aren't dumb enough to write a reason

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clear that a lot of people attacking sororities on this thread have no clue how sorority bid matching works. The system, by design, gives every girl who participates in preference night parties (the last night of rush) a bid. Each house is only allowed a certain number of bids which is determined by dividing the overall number of girls participating by the number of houses. So, if there are 3 houses and 75 girls still rushing, each sorority is limited to 25 bids max. A popular sorority probably could give out two or three times as many bids, but they aren’t allowed to as the system wants each house to have an equal shot at a full pledge class.

The sororities rank just as the girls do. A sorority might love the 36th girl on their list but she still won’t get a bid from them if their quota is reached. The matching between lists is not done by the sororities themselves (they just turn in their list) , and they are sometimes as surprised by the results as the girls rushing. It’s an imperfect system but designed to give every girl an option, and to have as many full (aka vibrant) sorority houses on campus as possible.

I am sure it is momentarily devastating not to get the most desired house. But I hope that we are raising our daughters with enough resilience and grit that they can accept this disappointment and move on, just as they would do if they don’t make a varsity team or first chair in orchestra.

+1000 this. Its not personal and no some of the girls in the sororities themselves don't even know who was dropped. Its all fed into the computer and the computer matches. No one is snickering about the rushees behind their back, unless they are in the top houses that don't even give people a chance if they don't know them, but again why would you want to be with that group? Just because some boys think they are the prettiest?

It’s 100% personal. Otherwise there would be no rush- it would be a blind lottery. What do you think that information “fed into the computer” is ??? It’s votes based on how many girls “want” you based on the 10 minutes they spend with you and how many mutual friends you already have.

Again my DD just went through rush. She spoke with rushees for 20 min the first day and rated them on many things (official rating sheets) including enthusiasm for the house, their communication skills, whether they were engaged in the discussion and asking good questions. None of these ratings had anything to do with looks wealth, boyfriends, drinking etc. It is all just trying to determine if this person is interested in the house and able/willing to communicate well. Do you think that is too high a bar?

Do you really think that what actually happens?

I absolutely do, my DD told me all about it. They have very strict rules about what they can ask and sororities were suspended for talking about drinking etc.

Yeah. For drinking. But they have your resume and before they even see your face, you’re ranked by where you went to high school, who your daddy is, who your mama is (and what house she was in), what ECs you did and where ($$), your GPA, your SAT, your house, any other status symbols they can discern from your resume, and MOST importantly, how many girls have already said “we know her” “we want her” because they went to the same high school, church, country club, etc. There are occasional outliers, but it is mostly hush hush dirty rush.