Idaho Murder Suspect Bryan Kohberger - arrest warrant affadavit

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Anonymous wrote:I am tired of the roommates being blamed.

And? What if your daughter's roommate did nothing while your kid got murdered. She was safely locked in her room. Her inaction for seven hours inexcusable.

She lived in a party house with a bunch of roommates, and drunken shenanigans at all hours. She knew enough to feel nervous but obviously never imagined MURDERS were taking place. Ffs some of you people are heartless.

No, I read the evidence. It's heartless to hide in your room like a coward.

np here, We don't know additional details yet. A couple weeks ago, people were all upset that the Idaho police weren't doing anything to find a suspect. Turns out we all don't know what is actually going on. Now everyone is jumping all over the roommate. She gave a very detailed description that is helpful in identifying Kohberger. Maybe we will hear why she waited to call 911. Loud commotion at a busy frat house is normal, people were always coming and going from there.

The details are in the affidavit, it's been released

I mean all the details that will come out in the court proceedings. There will be more affidavits by witnesses including the roommate, also more evidence. This affidavit is just the start.

How helpful can the roommate be if she was alcohol poisoned? How many facts would she realistically remember?

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Anonymous wrote:The original reports were that one of the roommates came outside at noon and fainted and that led to the 911 call. I am not sure the roommate every called 911.

My guess is that she was intoxicated enough to be unsure what was really happening and second guessing what she saw. She knew something was off but not what - a bit of crying, a dog barking, a couple weird comments, a stranger in the house. She ended up falling asleep (due to drinking) and woke up the next morning. Tried texting her roommates and got no reply and got scared to come out now putting 2 and 2 together that those things last night must have meant something. Eventually came out of her room, saw the bodies, went outside and fainted and someone called 911

This makes the most sense.

Nobody fainted. That was weird speculation based on reports that the 911 caller called to report someone “unresponsive” or “unconscious.” It was the victims who were unresponsive.

It isn't clear. This article talks about the call being that someone had passed out. But the murder scene was reported by police as very bloody and it isn't likely they would just say someone passed out if they saw a couple bloody dead bodies in the room.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The original reports were that one of the roommates came outside at noon and fainted and that led to the 911 call. I am not sure the roommate every called 911.

My guess is that she was intoxicated enough to be unsure what was really happening and second guessing what she saw. She knew something was off but not what - a bit of crying, a dog barking, a couple weird comments, a stranger in the house. She ended up falling asleep (due to drinking) and woke up the next morning. Tried texting her roommates and got no reply and got scared to come out now putting 2 and 2 together that those things last night must have meant something. Eventually came out of her room, saw the bodies, went outside and fainted and someone called 911

This makes the most sense.

Nobody fainted. That was weird speculation based on reports that the 911 caller called to report someone “unresponsive” or “unconscious.” It was the victims who were unresponsive.

I don’t know, thinking about this more, the victims were obviously stabbed so someone calling to report their bodies wouldn’t have just said they were unconscious or unresponsive.

You’re overthinking it.

Caller: “my roommate was stabbed or something, there’s blood everywhere.”
Operator: “stay calm. Is your roommate conscious?”
Caller: “no, they’re not conscious”
Operator: “are they breathing?”
Caller: “I don’t know, I’m not in the room, I’m freaking out”

Then the report is that someone is unconscious.

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^ Police said the surviving roommates called friends over to the house on Nov. 13 because they believed one of their roommates had passed out. Multiple people spoke with the dispatcher during the 911 call made at 11:58 a.m. to report an unconscious person, according to police.

https://www.today.com/news/university-idaho-murders-911-call-new-details-rcna58128

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The original reports were that one of the roommates came outside at noon and fainted and that led to the 911 call. I am not sure the roommate every called 911.

My guess is that she was intoxicated enough to be unsure what was really happening and second guessing what she saw. She knew something was off but not what - a bit of crying, a dog barking, a couple weird comments, a stranger in the house. She ended up falling asleep (due to drinking) and woke up the next morning. Tried texting her roommates and got no reply and got scared to come out now putting 2 and 2 together that those things last night must have meant something. Eventually came out of her room, saw the bodies, went outside and fainted and someone called 911

This makes the most sense.

Nobody fainted. That was weird speculation based on reports that the 911 caller called to report someone “unresponsive” or “unconscious.” It was the victims who were unresponsive.

I don’t know, thinking about this more, the victims were obviously stabbed so someone calling to report their bodies wouldn’t have just said they were unconscious or unresponsive.

Disagree. The one roomate (who saw the murderer) had a room on the same floor as the couple. And per the affadavit, the body of the female from the couple could be partially seen before entering the room. So she opened her door the next morning, saw part of her roomate's body from the hallway and was afraid to look any closer and ran outside. At that point all she knew was that one person was "unresponsive."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am tired of the roommates being blamed.

And? What if your daughter's roommate did nothing while your kid got murdered. She was safely locked in her room. Her inaction for seven hours inexcusable.

She lived in a party house with a bunch of roommates, and drunken shenanigans at all hours. She knew enough to feel nervous but obviously never imagined MURDERS were taking place. Ffs some of you people are heartless.

No, I read the evidence. It's heartless to hide in your room like a coward.

np here, We don't know additional details yet. A couple weeks ago, people were all upset that the Idaho police weren't doing anything to find a suspect. Turns out we all don't know what is actually going on. Now everyone is jumping all over the roommate. She gave a very detailed description that is helpful in identifying Kohberger. Maybe we will hear why she waited to call 911. Loud commotion at a busy frat house is normal, people were always coming and going from there.

The details are in the affidavit, it's been released

I mean all the details that will come out in the court proceedings. There will be more affidavits by witnesses including the roommate, also more evidence. This affidavit is just the start.

How helpful can the roommate be if she was alcohol poisoned? How many facts would she realistically remember?

She wasn’t alcohol poisoned. She remembers the events.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A kid who has been out partying is not going to call the cops unless she has a reason to think a crime was committed.
My kids would be the same way--we have always told them to run from the cops if they break up a party they're attending where drinking/pot is involved.
Kids are told for years that cops are not their friends (in as much as a police record can be really, really bad for your future).
These kids were on the cusp of 21 but old habits die hard.

So sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am tired of the roommates being blamed.

And? What if your daughter's roommate did nothing while your kid got murdered. She was safely locked in her room. Her inaction for seven hours inexcusable.

She lived in a party house with a bunch of roommates, and drunken shenanigans at all hours. She knew enough to feel nervous but obviously never imagined MURDERS were taking place. Ffs some of you people are heartless.

+1 it's been hard for my brain to take me back there, at first when I read the report I was pretty horrified and confused. But if you really take yourself back to a super crazy party house in college with lots of roommates (which it was reported this house was even before the affadavit, it was the house where lots of people were coming and going), you can sort of get in the headspace where she assumed it was a weird hook up and he'd left. I don't know how close she was to the roommate, I was usually close to my roommates so would have gone to check if they are ok. But post college I lived in a house with 5 people and I didn't know all of them that well, so i maybe wouldn't have been as comfortable? I mean personally I'm always the one that calls 911 even in college I was the friend being like uhh something is wrong here and dealing with it, that being said I had plenty of friends who are nice people who I can imagine being very passive in a situation like this. Also, masks aren't that weird now... which is a factor.

Yeah, I lived in a house with three other guys and two girls for two years in undergrad. I encountered a number of different strangers in the house (both male and female) leaving my housemates' rooms, at all hours of the day. After a night of drinking, I don't think I would have mentally processed the situation as a murderer leaving the house.

This. I feel like some people do not remember what college was like?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. The surviving roommate heard and saw the suspect leave. A shame.

Sounds like solid DNA evidence.

This blows my mind. She also heard crying? I assume she was the one who called 911.

I'm also struck by the suspect's attorney?/family? saying he expects to be exonerated. I realize that was a few days ago, but coming to the realization that your immediate family probably did this has got to shake you to your foundation.

If she was the one who called 911, she waited 12 hours to do it.

I'm trying to think of it through the roommate witness's eyes. It sounds like she was at the same frat party as the roommate couple. Maybe had some drinks and wasn't 100% confident in what she saw/heard? Thought it could have been boyfriend/ girlfriend arguing? Decided to sleep it off. I mean, never in a million years could you imagine your roommates are being murdered, right???

This times a 1000. She probably assumed an argument or fraternity prank.

And she listening, it was quiet, so she assumed everything was okay. Poor thing.

I really feel for her. Even if she had called police, it's highly unlikely (maybe even impossible) any of the victims would have survived given the extent of their injuries. But yeah, she probably did assume everything was fine once it was quiet, after hearing some unusual but not conclusive noises, especially after drinking at a party.

I don't know, if I heard my roomate crying and then saw a strange man leaving, I probably would have thought my roomate should be checked on. But then again, maybe doing nothing saved her life. Regardless, she will be tortured by her memories forever, poor thing. At least the other roomate saw/heard nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am tired of the roommates being blamed.

And? What if your daughter's roommate did nothing while your kid got murdered. She was safely locked in her room. Her inaction for seven hours inexcusable.

She lived in a party house with a bunch of roommates, and drunken shenanigans at all hours. She knew enough to feel nervous but obviously never imagined MURDERS were taking place. Ffs some of you people are heartless.

+1 it's been hard for my brain to take me back there, at first when I read the report I was pretty horrified and confused. But if you really take yourself back to a super crazy party house in college with lots of roommates (which it was reported this house was even before the affadavit, it was the house where lots of people were coming and going), you can sort of get in the headspace where she assumed it was a weird hook up and he'd left. I don't know how close she was to the roommate, I was usually close to my roommates so would have gone to check if they are ok. But post college I lived in a house with 5 people and I didn't know all of them that well, so i maybe wouldn't have been as comfortable? I mean personally I'm always the one that calls 911 even in college I was the friend being like uhh something is wrong here and dealing with it, that being said I had plenty of friends who are nice people who I can imagine being very passive in a situation like this. Also, masks aren't that weird now... which is a factor.

This!

I didn’t even live in a crazy party house, but my apartment had five bedrooms, and people often had boyfriends/friends sleeping over, and random people on one of our three couches.

It IS a little suspicious, I’ll admit. But also very typical.

I remember one night the apartment was quiet and I was sound asleep. All of a sudden it was like a tornado came crashing through the place. Loud drunken shouting of guys, screechy girls, cabinets hanging, at one point a glass breaking and a guy yelling expletives. Then as quickly as it started, it was silent again. Then my door opened but I couldn’t see who entered, and I didn’t hear them leave. I was paralyzed by fear and rooted to my bed, praying they’d leave. Why were they in my room? Wait, had they left and just didn’t close the door? It took me a good few minutes to even muster the courage to get out of bed and investigate. Turns out it was someone looking for the bathroom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am tired of the roommates being blamed.

And? What if your daughter's roommate did nothing while your kid got murdered. She was safely locked in her room. Her inaction for seven hours inexcusable.

She lived in a party house with a bunch of roommates, and drunken shenanigans at all hours. She knew enough to feel nervous but obviously never imagined MURDERS were taking place. Ffs some of you people are heartless.

+1 it's been hard for my brain to take me back there, at first when I read the report I was pretty horrified and confused. But if you really take yourself back to a super crazy party house in college with lots of roommates (which it was reported this house was even before the affadavit, it was the house where lots of people were coming and going), you can sort of get in the headspace where she assumed it was a weird hook up and he'd left. I don't know how close she was to the roommate, I was usually close to my roommates so would have gone to check if they are ok. But post college I lived in a house with 5 people and I didn't know all of them that well, so i maybe wouldn't have been as comfortable? I mean personally I'm always the one that calls 911 even in college I was the friend being like uhh something is wrong here and dealing with it, that being said I had plenty of friends who are nice people who I can imagine being very passive in a situation like this. Also, masks aren't that weird now... which is a factor.

Yeah, I lived in a house with three other guys and two girls for two years in undergrad. I encountered a number of different strangers in the house (both male and female) leaving my housemates' rooms, at all hours of the day. After a night of drinking, I don't think I would have mentally processed the situation as a murderer leaving the house.

This. I feel like some people do not remember what college was like?

A lot of us didn't actually live like that in college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am tired of the roommates being blamed.

And? What if your daughter's roommate did nothing while your kid got murdered. She was safely locked in her room. Her inaction for seven hours inexcusable.

She lived in a party house with a bunch of roommates, and drunken shenanigans at all hours. She knew enough to feel nervous but obviously never imagined MURDERS were taking place. Ffs some of you people are heartless.

+1 it's been hard for my brain to take me back there, at first when I read the report I was pretty horrified and confused. But if you really take yourself back to a super crazy party house in college with lots of roommates (which it was reported this house was even before the affadavit, it was the house where lots of people were coming and going), you can sort of get in the headspace where she assumed it was a weird hook up and he'd left. I don't know how close she was to the roommate, I was usually close to my roommates so would have gone to check if they are ok. But post college I lived in a house with 5 people and I didn't know all of them that well, so i maybe wouldn't have been as comfortable? I mean personally I'm always the one that calls 911 even in college I was the friend being like uhh something is wrong here and dealing with it, that being said I had plenty of friends who are nice people who I can imagine being very passive in a situation like this. Also, masks aren't that weird now... which is a factor.

Yeah, I lived in a house with three other guys and two girls for two years in undergrad. I encountered a number of different strangers in the house (both male and female) leaving my housemates' rooms, at all hours of the day. After a night of drinking, I don't think I would have mentally processed the situation as a murderer leaving the house.

This. I feel like some people do not remember what college was like?

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The original reports were that one of the roommates came outside at noon and fainted and that led to the 911 call. I am not sure the roommate every called 911.

My guess is that she was intoxicated enough to be unsure what was really happening and second guessing what she saw. She knew something was off but not what - a bit of crying, a dog barking, a couple weird comments, a stranger in the house. She ended up falling asleep (due to drinking) and woke up the next morning. Tried texting her roommates and got no reply and got scared to come out now putting 2 and 2 together that those things last night must have meant something. Eventually came out of her room, saw the bodies, went outside and fainted and someone called 911

This makes the most sense.

Nobody fainted. That was weird speculation based on reports that the 911 caller called to report someone “unresponsive” or “unconscious.” It was the victims who were unresponsive.

I don’t know, thinking about this more, the victims were obviously stabbed so someone calling to report their bodies wouldn’t have just said they were unconscious or unresponsive.

Disagree. The one roomate (who saw the murderer) had a room on the same floor as the couple. And per the affadavit, the body of the female from the couple could be partially seen before entering the room. So she opened her door the next morning, saw part of her roomate's body from the hallway and was afraid to look any closer and ran outside. At that point all she knew was that one person was "unresponsive."

That would be an odd response to thinking your roommate passed out on the floor. A house of girls who party a lot aren't going to be freaked out by a passed out friend. They would go to help her and see if she was okay. If they couldn't see blood and just thought she was passed out, they wouldn't be scared to go closer.

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Anonymous wrote:The original reports were that one of the roommates came outside at noon and fainted and that led to the 911 call. I am not sure the roommate every called 911.

My guess is that she was intoxicated enough to be unsure what was really happening and second guessing what she saw. She knew something was off but not what - a bit of crying, a dog barking, a couple weird comments, a stranger in the house. She ended up falling asleep (due to drinking) and woke up the next morning. Tried texting her roommates and got no reply and got scared to come out now putting 2 and 2 together that those things last night must have meant something. Eventually came out of her room, saw the bodies, went outside and fainted and someone called 911

This makes the most sense.

Nobody fainted. That was weird speculation based on reports that the 911 caller called to report someone “unresponsive” or “unconscious.” It was the victims who were unresponsive.

The speculation is because a friend of the roommate using the roommates phone, called 911. This is so convoluted because there’s so many people involved.

So the speculation is that ‘ friend who didn’t live at the house’ called 911 about their unresponsive friend, who was one of the surviving roommates.

I’m also reading how the surviving roommate’s testimony is going to be ripped apart on the stand if she was drunk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am tired of the roommates being blamed.

And? What if your daughter's roommate did nothing while your kid got murdered. She was safely locked in her room. Her inaction for seven hours inexcusable.

She lived in a party house with a bunch of roommates, and drunken shenanigans at all hours. She knew enough to feel nervous but obviously never imagined MURDERS were taking place. Ffs some of you people are heartless.

No, I read the evidence. It's heartless to hide in your room like a coward.

np here, We don't know additional details yet. A couple weeks ago, people were all upset that the Idaho police weren't doing anything to find a suspect. Turns out we all don't know what is actually going on. Now everyone is jumping all over the roommate. She gave a very detailed description that is helpful in identifying Kohberger. Maybe we will hear why she waited to call 911. Loud commotion at a busy frat house is normal, people were always coming and going from there.

The details are in the affidavit, it's been released

I mean all the details that will come out in the court proceedings. There will be more affidavits by witnesses including the roommate, also more evidence. This affidavit is just the start.

How helpful can the roommate be if she was alcohol poisoned? How many facts would she realistically remember?

You are just making up alcohol poisoning. Just stop.