New Virginia social studies standards

[Anonymous]

Yes, Youngkins new proposed standards teach about Robert E Lee, but not Martin Luther King.

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Anonymous wrote:Native Americans (currently grade 2) and Ancient China (currently grade 3) completely removed from elementary school.

Kind of scary.

American Indians are in K, 4th and 5th grade in these revised standards.

There's also no Mali.

I'm not super woke but the way they taught native Americans was so disturbing to me I'd prefer they not teach it at all. The stuff I heard during zoom school led to a lot of dinner table conversations!

You are an idiot
How in the world can the US not teach about Native Americans

Virginia you failed by electing YOUNGKIN the guy who doesn't think VA schools are good for his own kids!

I'm not an idiot. My kids were learning things like "the Indians were not as civilized as the people who came from England, so the people who came from England helped them and the Indians were grateful." This was two years ago so I am hazy on the specifics but it was about that offensive. Wouldn't you rather have your kids learn nothing than learn that?

I remember when one of mine brought home worksheets describing Pocahontas as a “princess” and glorifying John Smith. They are still teaching the Disney version of Native American history. It’s wrong but I wouldn’t count on Youngkin to fix it.

I have a 4th grader who came home last week and told us "the real story of Pocahontas is completely different from Disney. Did you X, Y, Z?" and I did not, in fact, know X, Y, and Z - so perhaps something has changed since you had a 4th grader. How old are your kids? 25?

Well that's going to change in the new standards when they won't reach about Native Americans and are calling natives immigrants.

[Anonymous]

The new guidelines were not approved.

https://www.wric.com/news/virginia-news/virginia-education-board-punts-new-history-standards-after-harsh-criticism/

Lots of complaints from lots of different special interests.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Native Americans (currently grade 2) and Ancient China (currently grade 3) completely removed from elementary school.

Kind of scary.

American Indians are in K, 4th and 5th grade in these revised standards.

There's also no Mali.

I'm not super woke but the way they taught native Americans was so disturbing to me I'd prefer they not teach it at all. The stuff I heard during zoom school led to a lot of dinner table conversations!

You are an idiot
How in the world can the US not teach about Native Americans

Virginia you failed by electing YOUNGKIN the guy who doesn't think VA schools are good for his own kids!

I'm not an idiot. My kids were learning things like "the Indians were not as civilized as the people who came from England, so the people who came from England helped them and the Indians were grateful." This was two years ago so I am hazy on the specifics but it was about that offensive. Wouldn't you rather have your kids learn nothing than learn that?

I remember when one of mine brought home worksheets describing Pocahontas as a “princess” and glorifying John Smith. They are still teaching the Disney version of Native American history. It’s wrong but I wouldn’t count on Youngkin to fix it.

I have a 4th grader who came home last week and told us "the real story of Pocahontas is completely different from Disney. Did you X, Y, Z?" and I did not, in fact, know X, Y, and Z - so perhaps something has changed since you had a 4th grader. How old are your kids? 25?

Well that's going to change in the new standards when they won't reach about Native Americans and are calling natives immigrants.

Yes, somehow American Indians are not immigrants but the rest of us should go back to where we came from...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, Youngkins new proposed standards teach about Robert E Lee, but not Martin Luther King.

Lump him with Benedict Arnold and have a unit on traitors, or toss him in with a lesson on slavery

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Anonymous wrote:Is it true that they left out MLK?

Yes, Any mention of MLK is being removed in every grade but kindergarten.

Is there any indication that the mentioning of MLK Jr is FORBIDDEN, rather than not required or specifically highlighted?
I suspect many will still cover him. Maybe not as many lessons all month long....and I think that's perfectly reasonable, actually. The whole month of January doesn't need to be about MLK Jr. There are a lot of other prominent figures that could be given more attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it true that they left out MLK?

Yes, Any mention of MLK is being removed in every grade but kindergarten.

Is there any indication that the mentioning of MLK Jr is FORBIDDEN, rather than not required or specifically highlighted?
I suspect many will still cover him. Maybe not as many lessons all month long....and I think that's perfectly reasonable, actually. The whole month of January doesn't need to be about MLK Jr. There are a lot of other prominent figures that could be given more attention.

They said that they accidentally committed MLK. To me that means they are either incompetent or didn't think he was important enough to include and then has an oh s#$t moment when questions started getting asked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Native Americans (currently grade 2) and Ancient China (currently grade 3) completely removed from elementary school.

Kind of scary.

American Indians are in K, 4th and 5th grade in these revised standards.

There's also no Mali.

I'm not super woke but the way they taught native Americans was so disturbing to me I'd prefer they not teach it at all. The stuff I heard during zoom school led to a lot of dinner table conversations!

You are an idiot
How in the world can the US not teach about Native Americans

Virginia you failed by electing YOUNGKIN the guy who doesn't think VA schools are good for his own kids!

I'm not an idiot. My kids were learning things like "the Indians were not as civilized as the people who came from England, so the people who came from England helped them and the Indians were grateful." This was two years ago so I am hazy on the specifics but it was about that offensive. Wouldn't you rather have your kids learn nothing than learn that?

I remember when one of mine brought home worksheets describing Pocahontas as a “princess” and glorifying John Smith. They are still teaching the Disney version of Native American history. It’s wrong but I wouldn’t count on Youngkin to fix it.

I have a 4th grader who came home last week and told us "the real story of Pocahontas is completely different from Disney. Did you X, Y, Z?" and I did not, in fact, know X, Y, and Z - so perhaps something has changed since you had a 4th grader. How old are your kids? 25?

Well that's going to change in the new standards when they won't reach about Native Americans and are calling natives immigrants.

Yes, somehow American Indians are not immigrants but the rest of us should go back to where we came from...

They were here first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it true that they left out MLK?

Yes, Any mention of MLK is being removed in every grade but kindergarten.

Is there any indication that the mentioning of MLK Jr is FORBIDDEN, rather than not required or specifically highlighted?
I suspect many will still cover him. Maybe not as many lessons all month long....and I think that's perfectly reasonable, actually. The whole month of January doesn't need to be about MLK Jr. There are a lot of other prominent figures that could be given more attention.

They said that they accidentally committed MLK. To me that means they are either incompetent or didn't think he was important enough to include and then has an oh s#$t moment when questions started getting asked.

I agree with the previous poster. Including MLK during the lessons about the Civil Rights movement is more meaningful than just talking about him every February. My kids knew who Rosa Parks and MLK were before they knew we had a civil war or that we had ended slavery and segregation. That doesn't make sense at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, Youngkins new proposed standards teach about Robert E Lee, but not Martin Luther King.

Lump him with Benedict Arnold and have a unit on traitors, or toss him in with a lesson on slavery

"Modern Day Racists"

[Anonymous]

It's interesting that the critics have chosen to frame it as "MLK isn't being taught in K-5" when it is part of the 6th grade curriculum and elementary schools in NoVA, at least, are K-6. Also, the MLK holiday is part of the curriculum in earlier grades and how exactly does one teach about the MLK holiday without teaching who MLK was and what he did?

It's all hyperventilation and partisanship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it true that they left out MLK?

Yes, Any mention of MLK is being removed in every grade but kindergarten.

Is there any indication that the mentioning of MLK Jr is FORBIDDEN, rather than not required or specifically highlighted?
I suspect many will still cover him. Maybe not as many lessons all month long....and I think that's perfectly reasonable, actually. The whole month of January doesn't need to be about MLK Jr. There are a lot of other prominent figures that could be given more attention.

They said that they accidentally committed MLK. To me that means they are either incompetent or didn't think he was important enough to include and then has an oh s#$t moment when questions started getting asked.

I agree with the previous poster. Including MLK during the lessons about the Civil Rights movement is more meaningful than just talking about him every February. My kids knew who Rosa Parks and MLK were before they knew we had a civil war or that we had ended slavery and segregation. That doesn't make sense at all.

That makes perfect sense, except he was included in the new curriculum at all after K

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that the critics have chosen to frame it as "MLK isn't being taught in K-5" when it is part of the 6th grade curriculum and elementary schools in NoVA, at least, are K-6. Also, the MLK holiday is part of the curriculum in earlier grades and how exactly does one teach about the MLK holiday without teaching who MLK was and what he did?

It's all hyperventilation and partisanship.

Huh? They are K-5.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it true that they left out MLK?

Yes, Any mention of MLK is being removed in every grade but kindergarten.

Is there any indication that the mentioning of MLK Jr is FORBIDDEN, rather than not required or specifically highlighted?
I suspect many will still cover him. Maybe not as many lessons all month long....and I think that's perfectly reasonable, actually. The whole month of January doesn't need to be about MLK Jr. There are a lot of other prominent figures that could be given more attention.

They said that they accidentally committed MLK. To me that means they are either incompetent or didn't think he was important enough to include and then has an oh s#$t moment when questions started getting asked.

I agree with the previous poster. Including MLK during the lessons about the Civil Rights movement is more meaningful than just talking about him every February. My kids knew who Rosa Parks and MLK were before they knew we had a civil war or that we had ended slavery and segregation. That doesn't make sense at all.

That makes perfect sense, except he was included in the new curriculum at all after K

In the new standards, MLK is taught in 6th grade as part of the Civil Rights movement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that the critics have chosen to frame it as "MLK isn't being taught in K-5" when it is part of the 6th grade curriculum and elementary schools in NoVA, at least, are K-6. Also, the MLK holiday is part of the curriculum in earlier grades and how exactly does one teach about the MLK holiday without teaching who MLK was and what he did?

It's all hyperventilation and partisanship.

Tell me you haven't read the proposed changes without telling me you haven't read the proposed changes.