New Virginia social studies standards

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I did. If you think that US history should be taught in a completely negative light about oppression, imperialism and other negative issues with 0 balance, then I'm sure you loved the SOLs after the African American professors' history edits (which were made unilaterally by Democrats after the Ralph Northam blackface scandal).

So VA voters got those jammed down their throats, and then they voted a year later to reject such a view. The people have spoken. You can move to Maryland.

That's not what was happening so...

Maybe join us here in reality if you want to have a reasonable discussion.

I think you need to attend the class with the trial if you don’t understand that reference.
My kid's class on Columbus Day(now Indigenous Peoples Day) had a trial of Columbus for genocide.

What do you think happened on Hispaniola?

Do you live in Hispaniola? I live in Fairfax County and this post is in the Virginia Schools forum.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think I should have to move to Maryland to ensure my kids receive an accurate education that isn't whitewashed.

Even Youngkin had to back down after the public backlash.

I'll stay in VA, thanks, and vote for someone better. Maybe you would be more comfortable in Florida.

They'll vote for these new standards. Virginia needs a social studies standard, this is it. They'll make two or three little changes and this is what students will get for next 6-7 years.

What a relief.

Anything this board does can be undone by the next board. By the time this gets put in a form that can be disseminated to counties, it'll be repealed.

Okay Mitch McConnell, it will be repealed just like the Affordable Care Act.

The VDOE is currently 5-4 R, and 3 of the Ds are done in June 2023. Will soon be 8-1 R.

The new standards will be effective for 2024-2025 school year, with flexibility to implement at start of 2025 school year. Youngkin is in office until 2026 with control over the VDOE until even longer. Plus, schools will have already bought resources for all of the new standards.

They'll be revised again in 2029, to be implemented in 2031.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the link to the meeting. It gets interesting pretty quickly. https://youtu.be/vPIQhS2cYGw

Tons of virtue signaling, tons of left-wing "historians" screaming.

The voters spoke in the last election that they didn't want social studies to be a social activism class anymore. You'll have to teach that to kids on your own time.

So you didn't actually listen to it at all then. Got it.

I did. If you think that US history should be taught in a completely negative light about oppression, imperialism and other negative issues with 0 balance, then I'm sure you loved the SOLs after the African American professors' history edits (which were made unilaterally by Democrats after the Ralph Northam blackface scandal).

So VA voters got those jammed down their throats, and then they voted a year later to reject such a view. The people have spoken. You can move to Maryland.

That's not what was happening so...

Maybe join us here in reality if you want to have a reasonable discussion.

I mean, yes. Fortunately social studies only happened for 30 minutes a day, so that other subjects counteracted the negativity somewhat. But that was the teaching, and the new guidelines were moreso. Glad that's being thrown out.

That isn’t happening, despite what FoxNews says.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think I should have to move to Maryland to ensure my kids receive an accurate education that isn't whitewashed.

Even Youngkin had to back down after the public backlash.

I'll stay in VA, thanks, and vote for someone better. Maybe you would be more comfortable in Florida.

I stayed here, voted for Youngkin and the end result of these revisions will be to push more towards the middle on social studies standards. I understand you want to shove your social justice ideology down every VA child's throats, but the voters said they were sick of it. You should accept the results, instead of being an election denialist.

You are such a sucker.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the link to the meeting. It gets interesting pretty quickly. https://youtu.be/vPIQhS2cYGw

Tons of virtue signaling, tons of left-wing "historians" screaming.

The voters spoke in the last election that they didn't want social studies to be a social activism class anymore. You'll have to teach that to kids on your own time.

So you didn't actually listen to it at all then. Got it.

I did. If you think that US history should be taught in a completely negative light about oppression, imperialism and other negative issues with 0 balance, then I'm sure you loved the SOLs after the African American professors' history edits (which were made unilaterally by Democrats after the Ralph Northam blackface scandal).

So VA voters got those jammed down their throats, and then they voted a year later to reject such a view. The people have spoken. You can move to Maryland.

That's not what was happening so...

Maybe join us here in reality if you want to have a reasonable discussion.

I mean, yes. Fortunately social studies only happened for 30 minutes a day, so that other subjects counteracted the negativity somewhat. But that was the teaching, and the new guidelines were moreso. Glad that's being thrown out.

That isn’t happening, despite what FoxNews says.

I don't watch Fox News. I see what my kids have been learning in school.

Maybe you could have paid a little more attention?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the link to the meeting. It gets interesting pretty quickly. https://youtu.be/vPIQhS2cYGw

Tons of virtue signaling, tons of left-wing "historians" screaming.

The voters spoke in the last election that they didn't want social studies to be a social activism class anymore. You'll have to teach that to kids on your own time.

So you didn't actually listen to it at all then. Got it.

I did. If you think that US history should be taught in a completely negative light about oppression, imperialism and other negative issues with 0 balance, then I'm sure you loved the SOLs after the African American professors' history edits (which were made unilaterally by Democrats after the Ralph Northam blackface scandal).

So VA voters got those jammed down their throats, and then they voted a year later to reject such a view. The people have spoken. You can move to Maryland.

That's not what was happening so...

Maybe join us here in reality if you want to have a reasonable discussion.

I mean, yes. Fortunately social studies only happened for 30 minutes a day, so that other subjects counteracted the negativity somewhat. But that was the teaching, and the new guidelines were moreso. Glad that's being thrown out.

That isn’t happening, despite what FoxNews says.

I don't watch Fox News. I see what my kids have been learning in school.

Maybe you could have paid a little more attention?

If you think your kids have been learning CRT et al in school, you’re the one who needs to pay more attention.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the link to the meeting. It gets interesting pretty quickly. https://youtu.be/vPIQhS2cYGw

Tons of virtue signaling, tons of left-wing "historians" screaming.

The voters spoke in the last election that they didn't want social studies to be a social activism class anymore. You'll have to teach that to kids on your own time.

So you didn't actually listen to it at all then. Got it.

I did. If you think that US history should be taught in a completely negative light about oppression, imperialism and other negative issues with 0 balance, then I'm sure you loved the SOLs after the African American professors' history edits (which were made unilaterally by Democrats after the Ralph Northam blackface scandal).

So VA voters got those jammed down their throats, and then they voted a year later to reject such a view. The people have spoken. You can move to Maryland.

That's not what was happening so...

Maybe join us here in reality if you want to have a reasonable discussion.

I mean, yes. Fortunately social studies only happened for 30 minutes a day, so that other subjects counteracted the negativity somewhat. But that was the teaching, and the new guidelines were moreso. Glad that's being thrown out.

That isn’t happening, despite what FoxNews says.

I don't watch Fox News. I see what my kids have been learning in school.

Maybe you could have paid a little more attention?

If you think your kids have been learning CRT et al in school, you’re the one who needs to pay more attention.

It's not CRT, but when you teach 90% negative side of US and Western History, it's definitely "woke".

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the link to the meeting. It gets interesting pretty quickly. https://youtu.be/vPIQhS2cYGw

Tons of virtue signaling, tons of left-wing "historians" screaming.

The voters spoke in the last election that they didn't want social studies to be a social activism class anymore. You'll have to teach that to kids on your own time.

So you didn't actually listen to it at all then. Got it.

I did. If you think that US history should be taught in a completely negative light about oppression, imperialism and other negative issues with 0 balance, then I'm sure you loved the SOLs after the African American professors' history edits (which were made unilaterally by Democrats after the Ralph Northam blackface scandal).

So VA voters got those jammed down their throats, and then they voted a year later to reject such a view. The people have spoken. You can move to Maryland.

That's not what was happening so...

Maybe join us here in reality if you want to have a reasonable discussion.

I mean, yes. Fortunately social studies only happened for 30 minutes a day, so that other subjects counteracted the negativity somewhat. But that was the teaching, and the new guidelines were moreso. Glad that's being thrown out.

That isn’t happening, despite what FoxNews says.

I don't watch Fox News. I see what my kids have been learning in school.

Maybe you could have paid a little more attention?

If you think your kids have been learning CRT et al in school, you’re the one who needs to pay more attention.

It's not CRT, but when you teach 90% negative side of US and Western History, it's definitely "woke".

God forbid we be aware of the negatives.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the link to the meeting. It gets interesting pretty quickly. https://youtu.be/vPIQhS2cYGw

Tons of virtue signaling, tons of left-wing "historians" screaming.

The voters spoke in the last election that they didn't want social studies to be a social activism class anymore. You'll have to teach that to kids on your own time.

So you didn't actually listen to it at all then. Got it.

I did. If you think that US history should be taught in a completely negative light about oppression, imperialism and other negative issues with 0 balance, then I'm sure you loved the SOLs after the African American professors' history edits (which were made unilaterally by Democrats after the Ralph Northam blackface scandal).

So VA voters got those jammed down their throats, and then they voted a year later to reject such a view. The people have spoken. You can move to Maryland.

That's not what was happening so...

Maybe join us here in reality if you want to have a reasonable discussion.

I mean, yes. Fortunately social studies only happened for 30 minutes a day, so that other subjects counteracted the negativity somewhat. But that was the teaching, and the new guidelines were moreso. Glad that's being thrown out.

That isn’t happening, despite what FoxNews says.

I don't watch Fox News. I see what my kids have been learning in school.

Maybe you could have paid a little more attention?

If you think your kids have been learning CRT et al in school, you’re the one who needs to pay more attention.

It's not CRT, but when you teach 90% negative side of US and Western History, it's definitely "woke".

You don't even know what woke is. Glad your kids have a curriculum that will mitigate your stupidity.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the link to the meeting. It gets interesting pretty quickly. https://youtu.be/vPIQhS2cYGw

Tons of virtue signaling, tons of left-wing "historians" screaming.

The voters spoke in the last election that they didn't want social studies to be a social activism class anymore. You'll have to teach that to kids on your own time.

So you didn't actually listen to it at all then. Got it.

I did. If you think that US history should be taught in a completely negative light about oppression, imperialism and other negative issues with 0 balance, then I'm sure you loved the SOLs after the African American professors' history edits (which were made unilaterally by Democrats after the Ralph Northam blackface scandal).

So VA voters got those jammed down their throats, and then they voted a year later to reject such a view. The people have spoken. You can move to Maryland.

That's not what was happening so...

Maybe join us here in reality if you want to have a reasonable discussion.

I mean, yes. Fortunately social studies only happened for 30 minutes a day, so that other subjects counteracted the negativity somewhat. But that was the teaching, and the new guidelines were moreso. Glad that's being thrown out.

That isn’t happening, despite what FoxNews says.

I don't watch Fox News. I see what my kids have been learning in school.

Maybe you could have paid a little more attention?

If you think your kids have been learning CRT et al in school, you’re the one who needs to pay more attention.

It's not CRT, but when you teach 90% negative side of US and Western History, it's definitely "woke".

God forbid we be aware of the negatives.

Then lets teach them about the comanche indians and the Fort Park Massacre to give them a well rounded perspective. How the Comanche indians mutilated a white family and cut their tongues off and scalped a man while his young children and pregnant wife fled for safety. Oh wait, that would make the american indians look bad. Weird how such peaceful loving people to castrate, scalp, and kill a man for trying to protect his family from being murdered, tortured, and raped…..

From wikipedia:
Benjamin knew he was going to be killed. According to Rachel Plummer's account, Benjamin returned to the fort, after his first talk with the war party, and told his brother and father that he believed they would all be killed, and that they should run swiftly to the woods. Silas again argued with him, telling him they should push the big gate shut, and man the walls. Ben pointed out, rightly, Rachel said, that there was no time, and their "course was decided." He told her, "run little Rachel, for your life and your unborn child, run now and fast!" She said he then straightened up and went back outside.[7] She recounted how Silas told her to watch the front gate, after Benjamin had gone out to talk to the Indians the second time, when she herself wanted to flee, while he ran for his musket and powder pouch.[7] "They will kill Benjamin," she reported her Uncle Silas saying, "and then me, but I will do for at least one of them, by God." At that moment, she said she heard whooping outside the fort, and then Indians were inside.[7]

The 3–5 minutes bought enough time that the majority of the women and children did get away. Rachel Plummer, who was pregnant, was afraid she would not be able to keep up while carrying her two-year-old son, and so she stayed in the fort.[7] She began running after seeing the Indians come into the fort, holding her little boy's hand, while behind her she said she saw Indians stabbing Benjamin with their lances, and then she heard "Uncle Silas shout defiance as though he had a thousand men with him. Alas, he was alone, and soon dead."[7] Lucy Parker, who also had a small child, stopped to argue with her husband Silas, begging him to come with her.[7] Elizabeth Duty Kellogg stopped to gather up their savings, $100 in coins, before she attempted to escape.

Benjamin Parker was killed, and before the fort's gates could be closed, the raiders rushed inside. Silas Parker, who was outside with his brother, was killed before he was able to get back inside the gate. Samuel Frost and his son Robert were killed inside the gate, as they attempted to flee. John Parker was castrated and then scalped. His wife came out of the woods when she saw his torture and was captured.[7] Lucy Parker and her youngest two children were initially captured but were rescued by David Faulkenberry as he ran up to the fort from the fields. Her two oldest children, however, along with Rachel and her son, and Elizabeth Kellogg were successfully kidnapped.

In all, five men were killed, some were left for dead, two women and three children were captured, and the rest escaped into the wilderness.

Link to wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Parker_massacre

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Anonymous wrote:“It’s just another attack on trying to make history what they want it to be," said James Fedderman, President of the Virginia Education Association.
In the 53-page document, policies outline what and when certain subjects are taught to Virginia students. Many difficult topics such as lynching would not be taught until 6th grade, and Christopher Columbus' role in the slave trade by 11th grade.
"There is also a removal of content of Martin Luther King Jr from the K-5 standards, no mention of Juneteenth, removal of content of LGBTQ+ histories," Fedderman said.

Speaking as a former Texan, there's really no reason that Virginian grade schoolers need to learn anything about Juneteenth. Ftr, MLK is in the 6th grade standard.

Agree. Juneteenth is part of Texas history.

It’s a federal holiday. Of course they should learn about it before sixth grade.

Yes, because Labor Day gets such extensive coverage in the K-5 curricula nationwide.

Pretty sure Memorial Day is not covered nor Veterans Day.

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Anonymous wrote:“It’s just another attack on trying to make history what they want it to be," said James Fedderman, President of the Virginia Education Association.
In the 53-page document, policies outline what and when certain subjects are taught to Virginia students. Many difficult topics such as lynching would not be taught until 6th grade, and Christopher Columbus' role in the slave trade by 11th grade.
"There is also a removal of content of Martin Luther King Jr from the K-5 standards, no mention of Juneteenth, removal of content of LGBTQ+ histories," Fedderman said.

Speaking as a former Texan, there's really no reason that Virginian grade schoolers need to learn anything about Juneteenth. Ftr, MLK is in the 6th grade standard.

Agree. Juneteenth is part of Texas history.

It’s a federal holiday. Of course they should learn about it before sixth grade.

Yes, because Labor Day gets such extensive coverage in the K-5 curricula nationwide.

Pretty sure Memorial Day is not covered nor Veterans Day.

Veterans Day is usually covered with an assembly and other programming. This year was unusual.

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Anonymous wrote:Several speakers expressed outrage over kindergarten standards that described Indigenous people as America’s first “immigrants” from Asia.

“This is our home. We are not immigrants,” said Aaron Winston, a board member for the Virginia Tribal Education Consortium. “No one is trying to say the English didn’t come from England or the Chinese didn’t come from China. Why are you telling us that now we come from somewhere else?”

Superintendent Balow later apologized in an interview.

“It was wrong to label them as immigrants in the standards document and we will make sure that is corrected,” Balow said.

But they were "immigrants" in the technical sense....

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Is there any non-racist reason to remove MLK from the curriculum?

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the link to the meeting. It gets interesting pretty quickly. https://youtu.be/vPIQhS2cYGw

Tons of virtue signaling, tons of left-wing "historians" screaming.

The voters spoke in the last election that they didn't want social studies to be a social activism class anymore. You'll have to teach that to kids on your own time.

So you didn't actually listen to it at all then. Got it.

I did. If you think that US history should be taught in a completely negative light about oppression, imperialism and other negative issues with 0 balance, then I'm sure you loved the SOLs after the African American professors' history edits (which were made unilaterally by Democrats after the Ralph Northam blackface scandal).

So VA voters got those jammed down their throats, and then they voted a year later to reject such a view. The people have spoken. You can move to Maryland.

That's not what was happening so...

Maybe join us here in reality if you want to have a reasonable discussion.

I mean, yes. Fortunately social studies only happened for 30 minutes a day, so that other subjects counteracted the negativity somewhat. But that was the teaching, and the new guidelines were moreso. Glad that's being thrown out.

That isn’t happening, despite what FoxNews says.

I don't watch Fox News. I see what my kids have been learning in school.

Maybe you could have paid a little more attention?

If you think your kids have been learning CRT et al in school, you’re the one who needs to pay more attention.

It's not CRT, but when you teach 90% negative side of US and Western History, it's definitely "woke".

God forbid we be aware of the negatives.

Then lets teach them about the comanche indians and the Fort Park Massacre to give them a well rounded perspective. How the Comanche indians mutilated a white family and cut their tongues off and scalped a man while his young children and pregnant wife fled for safety. Oh wait, that would make the american indians look bad. Weird how such peaceful loving people to castrate, scalp, and kill a man for trying to protect his family from being murdered, tortured, and raped…..

From wikipedia:
Benjamin knew he was going to be killed. According to Rachel Plummer's account, Benjamin returned to the fort, after his first talk with the war party, and told his brother and father that he believed they would all be killed, and that they should run swiftly to the woods. Silas again argued with him, telling him they should push the big gate shut, and man the walls. Ben pointed out, rightly, Rachel said, that there was no time, and their "course was decided." He told her, "run little Rachel, for your life and your unborn child, run now and fast!" She said he then straightened up and went back outside.[7] She recounted how Silas told her to watch the front gate, after Benjamin had gone out to talk to the Indians the second time, when she herself wanted to flee, while he ran for his musket and powder pouch.[7] "They will kill Benjamin," she reported her Uncle Silas saying, "and then me, but I will do for at least one of them, by God." At that moment, she said she heard whooping outside the fort, and then Indians were inside.[7]

The 3–5 minutes bought enough time that the majority of the women and children did get away. Rachel Plummer, who was pregnant, was afraid she would not be able to keep up while carrying her two-year-old son, and so she stayed in the fort.[7] She began running after seeing the Indians come into the fort, holding her little boy's hand, while behind her she said she saw Indians stabbing Benjamin with their lances, and then she heard "Uncle Silas shout defiance as though he had a thousand men with him. Alas, he was alone, and soon dead."[7] Lucy Parker, who also had a small child, stopped to argue with her husband Silas, begging him to come with her.[7] Elizabeth Duty Kellogg stopped to gather up their savings, $100 in coins, before she attempted to escape.

Benjamin Parker was killed, and before the fort's gates could be closed, the raiders rushed inside. Silas Parker, who was outside with his brother, was killed before he was able to get back inside the gate. Samuel Frost and his son Robert were killed inside the gate, as they attempted to flee. John Parker was castrated and then scalped. His wife came out of the woods when she saw his torture and was captured.[7] Lucy Parker and her youngest two children were initially captured but were rescued by David Faulkenberry as he ran up to the fort from the fields. Her two oldest children, however, along with Rachel and her son, and Elizabeth Kellogg were successfully kidnapped.

In all, five men were killed, some were left for dead, two women and three children were captured, and the rest escaped into the wilderness.

Link to wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Parker_massacre

Good social studies education doesn't reinforce stereotypes of Indigenous peoples as purely peaceful. But go ahead and post your wikipedia articles, doofus.