New FLE program survey live

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wrote that I disagreed because I don't think that kids will be comfortable in a mixed classroom. They can explain the different genders issues with puberty to both groups in separated environments so that both groups can answer ask questions in a place that they are likely to feel more comfortable.

Speaking as someone who has taught FLE to single gender classes…no one is comfortable. No one. Teachers aren’t; we are walking on eggshells to stay on script, and there are always at least 2 of us in the room. But it’s not like the presence of the other gender would interfere with participation; kids of both genders ask questions in anonymous written form.

I actually think for many kids it would be comforting and validating for kids to see that kids of the other gender have the same wondering and confusions and fears. Puberty “others” kids enough as it is. I still remember the embarrassment and mystery I felt as a 5th grade girl, not knowing what was being said in the boys’ lesson and immediately feeling this dramatic separation from boys after we had had our segregated lessons. We wondered what they had been told about us, what they had asked about us, what they were thinking about us, and vice versa. Simply having the lessons together would have made it all seem more scientific and less secretive and shameful.

I have taught FLE for 12 years and I think combining is an awful idea. It is hard enough to teach this to kids separated. Plus we gave kids who ask questions out loud and anonymously. I also feel way more kids will opt out and then it will turn to a waste of instructional time if you only end up having 1/2 of the kids taking it.

+1 hopefully common sense will prevail.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No parent wants combined genders. I doubt many parents are even aware this is the plan for next year.

I am the parent of a 4th grade boy and I have absolutely no problem with combined gender FLE classes. There is nothing in the girls’ lessons that he shouldn’t hear and nothing in his that would hurt them. Receiving the same information together is both egalitarian and practical. It helps students understand each other more and have empathy toward each other. It helps create understanding rather than division.

+1

We should normalize talking openly about our bodies. There is nothing to be ashamed of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No parent wants combined genders. I doubt many parents are even aware this is the plan for next year.

I am the parent of a 4th grade boy and I have absolutely no problem with combined gender FLE classes. There is nothing in the girls’ lessons that he shouldn’t hear and nothing in his that would hurt them. Receiving the same information together is both egalitarian and practical. It helps students understand each other more and have empathy toward each other. It helps create understanding rather than division.

+1

We should normalize talking openly about our bodies. There is nothing to be ashamed of.

Modesty is developmental. You sound like those people who think children are a blank slate, tabula rasa.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No parent wants combined genders. I doubt many parents are even aware this is the plan for next year.

I am the parent of a 4th grade boy and I have absolutely no problem with combined gender FLE classes. There is nothing in the girls’ lessons that he shouldn’t hear and nothing in his that would hurt them. Receiving the same information together is both egalitarian and practical. It helps students understand each other more and have empathy toward each other. It helps create understanding rather than division.

+1

We should normalize talking openly about our bodies. There is nothing to be ashamed of.

Modesty is developmental. You sound like those people who think children are a blank slate, tabula rasa.

Modesty in children entering puberty, and is very developmentally appropriate.

On an evolutionary scale, it is a natural form of self protection for kids to be protective and private about their bodies and intimate things.

This whole push to break down barriers between children sharing intimate things with adults and anyone who will listen is new and has a nafarious intent behind it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No parent wants combined genders. I doubt many parents are even aware this is the plan for next year.

I am the parent of a 4th grade boy and I have absolutely no problem with combined gender FLE classes. There is nothing in the girls’ lessons that he shouldn’t hear and nothing in his that would hurt them. Receiving the same information together is both egalitarian and practical. It helps students understand each other more and have empathy toward each other. It helps create understanding rather than division.

+1

We should normalize talking openly about our bodies. There is nothing to be ashamed of.

Modesty is developmental. You sound like those people who think children are a blank slate, tabula rasa.

Modesty in children entering puberty, and is very developmentally appropriate.

On an evolutionary scale, it is a natural form of self protection for kids to be protective and private about their bodies and intimate things.

This whole push to break down barriers between children sharing intimate things with adults and anyone who will listen is new and has a nafarious intent behind it.

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No parent wants combined genders. I doubt many parents are even aware this is the plan for next year.

I am the parent of a 4th grade boy and I have absolutely no problem with combined gender FLE classes. There is nothing in the girls’ lessons that he shouldn’t hear and nothing in his that would hurt them. Receiving the same information together is both egalitarian and practical. It helps students understand each other more and have empathy toward each other. It helps create understanding rather than division.

+1

We should normalize talking openly about our bodies. There is nothing to be ashamed of.

Modesty is developmental. You sound like those people who think children are a blank slate, tabula rasa.

Modesty in children entering puberty, and is very developmentally appropriate.

On an evolutionary scale, it is a natural form of self protection for kids to be protective and private about their bodies and intimate things.

This whole push to break down barriers between children sharing intimate things with adults and anyone who will listen is new and has a nafarious intent behind it.

It’s nefarious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No parent wants combined genders. I doubt many parents are even aware this is the plan for next year.

I am the parent of a 4th grade boy and I have absolutely no problem with combined gender FLE classes. There is nothing in the girls’ lessons that he shouldn’t hear and nothing in his that would hurt them. Receiving the same information together is both egalitarian and practical. It helps students understand each other more and have empathy toward each other. It helps create understanding rather than division.

I have a boy and a girl. I agree there is nothing that the boy will hear that won’t benefit him. But I think having the boys present will harm the girls. In 4-5th grade it is the girls who are actively going through puberty. They’re the ones with immediate questions and concerns. Having boys present in that room will impede that conversation. I’ll go further and add I think the effect of gender combined classes is anti-girl even if that wasn’t the intent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No parent wants combined genders. I doubt many parents are even aware this is the plan for next year.

I am the parent of a 4th grade boy and I have absolutely no problem with combined gender FLE classes. There is nothing in the girls’ lessons that he shouldn’t hear and nothing in his that would hurt them. Receiving the same information together is both egalitarian and practical. It helps students understand each other more and have empathy toward each other. It helps create understanding rather than division.

+1

We should normalize talking openly about our bodies. There is nothing to be ashamed of.

“We” are not young kids. So your opinion is irrelevant.

Classes should be taught separately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No parent wants combined genders. I doubt many parents are even aware this is the plan for next year.

I am the parent of a 4th grade boy and I have absolutely no problem with combined gender FLE classes. There is nothing in the girls’ lessons that he shouldn’t hear and nothing in his that would hurt them. Receiving the same information together is both egalitarian and practical. It helps students understand each other more and have empathy toward each other. It helps create understanding rather than division.

+1

We should normalize talking openly about our bodies. There is nothing to be ashamed of.

Modesty is developmental. You sound like those people who think children are a blank slate, tabula rasa.

Modesty in children entering puberty, and is very developmentally appropriate.

On an evolutionary scale, it is a natural form of self protection for kids to be protective and private about their bodies and intimate things.

This whole push to break down barriers between children sharing intimate things with adults and anyone who will listen is new and has a nafarious intent behind it.

I completely agree.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wrote that I disagreed because I don't think that kids will be comfortable in a mixed classroom. They can explain the different genders issues with puberty to both groups in separated environments so that both groups can answer ask questions in a place that they are likely to feel more comfortable.

Speaking as someone who has taught FLE to single gender classes…no one is comfortable. No one. Teachers aren’t; we are walking on eggshells to stay on script, and there are always at least 2 of us in the room. But it’s not like the presence of the other gender would interfere with participation; kids of both genders ask questions in anonymous written form.

I actually think for many kids it would be comforting and validating for kids to see that kids of the other gender have the same wondering and confusions and fears. Puberty “others” kids enough as it is. I still remember the embarrassment and mystery I felt as a 5th grade girl, not knowing what was being said in the boys’ lesson and immediately feeling this dramatic separation from boys after we had had our segregated lessons. We wondered what they had been told about us, what they had asked about us, what they were thinking about us, and vice versa. Simply having the lessons together would have made it all seem more scientific and less secretive and shameful.

There’s no way you taught FLE. I’m a fourth grade teacher. I’ve taught 3rd-6th grades. Girls want to talk and have lots of questions. Boys generally don’t. They definitely won’t if girls are there. It’s difficult enough to explain answers in a developmentally appropriate way for girls, but to have to explain it for boys too? It’s just not appropriate. There would be very little learning going on because everyone would be giggling and looking at each other. Like when a girl in my class asked if a tampon can get stuck in your uterus and how do you get it out? “With your fingers?” I think it’s best for boys and girls to learn about their own bodies first, they can learn about the others’ bodies later.

+ a million
You would think this is common sense. Sadly, common sense is scarce these days.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I added comments that I was against the “assigned male at birth” and “assigned female at birth” changes as well.

People like you are going to ruin this and they will ignore. Can't people just comment about the mixing of genders and shut up about this language change that means nothing?

Sex is not "assigned" at birth. First, no one does the assigning, it's simply an observational fact. Second, the use of the term "assigned" implies that it can be changed later, which is simply not true. Sex is immutable and unchangeable.

This "language change" is literally propaganda taught by our schools to your kids.

Nonsense. Gender-affirming surgery changes ones biological sex to match their gender.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No parent wants combined genders. I doubt many parents are even aware this is the plan for next year.

I am the parent of a 4th grade boy and I have absolutely no problem with combined gender FLE classes. There is nothing in the girls’ lessons that he shouldn’t hear and nothing in his that would hurt them. Receiving the same information together is both egalitarian and practical. It helps students understand each other more and have empathy toward each other. It helps create understanding rather than division.

Well I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I added comments that I was against the “assigned male at birth” and “assigned female at birth” changes as well.

People like you are going to ruin this and they will ignore. Can't people just comment about the mixing of genders and shut up about this language change that means nothing?

Sex is not "assigned" at birth. First, no one does the assigning, it's simply an observational fact. Second, the use of the term "assigned" implies that it can be changed later, which is simply not true. Sex is immutable and unchangeable.

This "language change" is literally propaganda taught by our schools to your kids.

Nonsense. Gender-affirming surgery changes ones biological sex to match their gender.

Not really. It changes some externalities. Hormones change some other externalities, but there's no way to change sex, if you're not a frog or some other turtles or fish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I added comments that I was against the “assigned male at birth” and “assigned female at birth” changes as well.

People like you are going to ruin this and they will ignore. Can't people just comment about the mixing of genders and shut up about this language change that means nothing?

Sex is not "assigned" at birth. First, no one does the assigning, it's simply an observational fact. Second, the use of the term "assigned" implies that it can be changed later, which is simply not true. Sex is immutable and unchangeable.

This "language change" is literally propaganda taught by our schools to your kids.

Nonsense. Gender-affirming surgery changes ones biological sex to match their gender.

Not really. It changes some externalities. Hormones change some other externalities, but there's no way to change sex, if you're not a frog or some other turtles or fish.

This. Maybe parents need some remedial courses on human biology.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No parent wants combined genders. I doubt many parents are even aware this is the plan for next year.

I am the parent of a 4th grade boy and I have absolutely no problem with combined gender FLE classes. There is nothing in the girls’ lessons that he shouldn’t hear and nothing in his that would hurt them. Receiving the same information together is both egalitarian and practical. It helps students understand each other more and have empathy toward each other. It helps create understanding rather than division.

Well I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach.

I think parent's should be telling schools what they should teach.

It should reflect community desires.