New FLE program survey live

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks. Just posted my comments and said combining genders was a terrible idea.

Cool, I said the opposite.

Why?

Because they are an activist without children, not a fcps parent or teacher

I know that makes it more simple for you. But no. I have a 10th grader and am very active in the school and always have been (from ES room parent, to now).

Nice try.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks. Just posted my comments and said combining genders was a terrible idea.

Cool, I said the opposite.

Why?

Because they are an activist without children, not a fcps parent or teacher

I know that makes it more simple for you. But no. I have a 10th grader and am very active in the school and always have been (from ES room parent, to now).

Nice try.

DP. Why are you so insistent that kids need to be in a combined FLE class? Don’t you want every kid to feel comfortable enough to ask questions?

[Anonymous]

2 very interesting highlights from the dissent


• Silencing of viewpoints. This year was the first time FLECAC had an opportunity to review, at the direction of the Board, the lesson scripts prepared by FCPS staff for the LGBT curriculum approved by the Board in 2015. When one of us, Laura Hanford, proposed motions at the January meeting that would improve the medical accuracy of some of these new lessons,2 her amendments were tabled by the majority, and the Board promptly replaced Ms. Hanford. In the last decade and a half no other committee member has had their tenure summarily curtailed mid-term in this manner.3 At the next meeting in February, the FLECAC majority used parliamentary procedures to suppress all debate on these motions, as well as on a motion by Ms. Laura Murphy to ensure medical accuracy in teaching about contraceptives.4 The willingness of the FLECAC majority to completely silence earnest deliberation on certain viewpoints, or even a vote on the merits, is of tremendous concern, and raises questions about how members might have voted differently had there been a more open process.

• Underrepresentation of parents. Based on FLECAC’s current membership, it is clear that the voices of parents who have children in the FCPS system are greatly underrepresented. We are extremely confident that a much higher proportion of county voters would support our positions on various issues than FLECAC votes reflect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wish the school board cared more about kids than all these fringe special interest groups!

if wishes were fishes!

stop wishing if you actually care

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2 very interesting highlights from the dissent


• Silencing of viewpoints. This year was the first time FLECAC had an opportunity to review, at the direction of the Board, the lesson scripts prepared by FCPS staff for the LGBT curriculum approved by the Board in 2015. When one of us, Laura Hanford, proposed motions at the January meeting that would improve the medical accuracy of some of these new lessons,2 her amendments were tabled by the majority, and the Board promptly replaced Ms. Hanford. In the last decade and a half no other committee member has had their tenure summarily curtailed mid-term in this manner.3 At the next meeting in February, the FLECAC majority used parliamentary procedures to suppress all debate on these motions, as well as on a motion by Ms. Laura Murphy to ensure medical accuracy in teaching about contraceptives.4 The willingness of the FLECAC majority to completely silence earnest deliberation on certain viewpoints, or even a vote on the merits, is of tremendous concern, and raises questions about how members might have voted differently had there been a more open process.

• Underrepresentation of parents. Based on FLECAC’s current membership, it is clear that the voices of parents who have children in the FCPS system are greatly underrepresented. We are extremely confident that a much higher proportion of county voters would support our positions on various issues than FLECAC votes reflect.

Thanks for this. Where can the dissent statement be read online?

[Anonymous]

“• Underrepresentation of parents. Based on FLECAC’s current membership, it is clear that the voices of parents who have children in the FCPS system are greatly underrepresented.”

This seems to be a problem with other committees too where they prioritize these formal “community” groups vs normal parents

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“• Underrepresentation of parents. Based on FLECAC’s current membership, it is clear that the voices of parents who have children in the FCPS system are greatly underrepresented.”

This seems to be a problem with other committees too where they prioritize these formal “community” groups vs normal parents

+1
"Normal parents" are a problem for this school system (and probably similar school systems across the country). We're just... too darn normal!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks. Just posted my comments and said combining genders was a terrible idea.

That was the gist of my input too.
- OP

Same.

Thanks OP!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks. Just posted my comments and said combining genders was a terrible idea.

Cool, I said the opposite.

You’re in the minority.

Doesn't matter. I don't need your permission to say so. And if they need a basis to say people support it, they have it.

I never said you needed my permission. I simply stated a fact.

And I'm saying I don't care what you or anyone else thinks.

Well…ditto! Have a nice day!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:2 very interesting highlights from the dissent


• Silencing of viewpoints. This year was the first time FLECAC had an opportunity to review, at the direction of the Board, the lesson scripts prepared by FCPS staff for the LGBT curriculum approved by the Board in 2015. When one of us, Laura Hanford, proposed motions at the January meeting that would improve the medical accuracy of some of these new lessons,2 her amendments were tabled by the majority, and the Board promptly replaced Ms. Hanford. In the last decade and a half no other committee member has had their tenure summarily curtailed mid-term in this manner.3 At the next meeting in February, the FLECAC majority used parliamentary procedures to suppress all debate on these motions, as well as on a motion by Ms. Laura Murphy to ensure medical accuracy in teaching about contraceptives.4 The willingness of the FLECAC majority to completely silence earnest deliberation on certain viewpoints, or even a vote on the merits, is of tremendous concern, and raises questions about how members might have voted differently had there been a more open process.

• Underrepresentation of parents. Based on FLECAC’s current membership, it is clear that the voices of parents who have children in the FCPS system are greatly underrepresented. We are extremely confident that a much higher proportion of county voters would support our positions on various issues than FLECAC votes reflect.

Thanks for this. Where can the dissent statement be read online?

It was in the 2017-18 document on that year’s recommended FLE changes. That’s when they put in the “assigned at birth” language. The dissent is at the end of the report. https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/AYKU7H699ED9/$file/FLECAC%20Annual%20Recommendations%20Report%202017_18_051018g.pdf

[Anonymous]

I am so glad the school board didn’t approve this when it was presented.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks. Just posted my comments and said combining genders was a terrible idea.

Cool, I said the opposite.

You’re in the minority.

Keep telling yourself that. NP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I added comments that I was against the “assigned male at birth” and “assigned female at birth” changes as well.

People like you are going to ruin this and they will ignore. Can't people just comment about the mixing of genders and shut up about this language change that means nothing?

Nope, we are against all the proposed changes and have every right to voice our concerns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks. Just posted my comments and said combining genders was a terrible idea.

Cool, I said the opposite.

You’re in the minority.

Doesn't matter. I don't need your permission to say so. And if they need a basis to say people support it, they have it.

I never said you needed my permission. I simply stated a fact.

Nope. You stated an opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks. Just posted my comments and said combining genders was a terrible idea.

Cool, I said the opposite.

Why?

Because they are an activist without children, not a fcps parent or teacher

I know that makes it more simple for you. But no. I have a 10th grader and am very active in the school and always have been (from ES room parent, to now).

Nice try.

DP. Why are you so insistent that kids need to be in a combined FLE class? Don’t you want every kid to feel comfortable enough to ask questions?

“Insistent?” The school asked our preferences. We answered. It didn’t agree with your preference. Oh well.