Erdogan forgets that Turkey is part of NATO. |
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I disagree. I think all us couch potatoes understand the consequences. But we also understand that when a crazy person has nuclear weapons, you don't give in. If you've ever traveled to some of the places in the news, you'd understand. Power means everything and the weak don't usually survive.
It's like a policeman handing a criminal his own weapon. If you think the person is rational, just as scared as you are, and think they can be talked down - maybe you put down your gun. On the other hand, if the person is a cold-blooded killer, what do you think happens the second you take the finger off of the trigger? That's where we are now. Putin perceived the U.S. as weak because of Trump and the Republican Party. We haven't locked him up, even though he tried to take the White House illegally. Trump supporters tweet how they're going to destroy democracy. Putin thought Biden would be a pushover because he's old, but that turned out to be a gross miscalculation. What did you think Putin would do with hypersonic missiles? What is the Borei submarine for? What do you think Poseidon drones are for? Why do you think Russia sunk 800M into their nuclear programs to upgrade them? With 6,000 nuclear warheads, you think Putin would ever just fire one and call it quits? All of these weapons have only one purpose, and you're naive to think otherwise. So here we are. Welcome to the world you let happen from your lack of attention, lack of interest, and lack of proactive measures. |
Erdogan plays the field. With millions of Russian tourists visiting his country dropping cash, what motive does he have to turn them away? |
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We have purchased KI, NBC masks, and a Tesla Paid X with biodefense mode.
Apocalypse y'all. |
Hard to tell if this is sarcasm or not. If not.... wow. Just wow. |
LOL. Putin knows weakness when he sees it. And, it is in the WH now (well, actually, right now that weakness is in Delaware where he spends most of his weekends). The disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal was his first clue that our current commander in chief is no commander at all. So sad! |
What did the previous administration give Putin? |
You should go to Wyoming, the less people that interact with you the better. No war has winners, but the US is clearly better off from this war relative to all the other players it’s impacting. |
Amen. OP, for a SAIS grad you seem to know very little about Russia, Ukraine and NATO nor the reality of the current Russian military, which can barely keep tires on its trucks and gas and food flowing to its front line not to mention field any quality troops. It’s highly questionable whether Putin could execute his nuclear threat for a variety of reasons, and even if he could, he has been made aware that a nuclear attack on Ukraine would be considered an attack on Europe as a whole and would merit a response by NATO, and, although NATO and the US have taken a nuclear response of the table, they have made clear that they would be able to respond with overwhelming conventional force and destroy Russian troops in Ukraine and the entire Black Sea fleet. FFS, even the Chinese are telling him to cool it with the nuke talk. If you thought losing the Moskva and a chunk of the Kerch bridge has been humiliating, how do you think Putin will be viewed after that? If noting else, the past 8 months have demonstrated the capability of US and European conventional weapons to make good that threat. Putin’s nukes only have utility value as an empty threat. https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/02/us-russia-putin-ukraine-war-david-petraeus Also, again, as a SAIS grad, you seem to know very little about how this threat has played out, what demarches have been delivered, etc. Try to keep up. |
Sorry to disappoint - this crazy is ALLLLLLL yours. LWNJ to the core. |
+1 At first I thought it was excellent satire. But now I realize it probably is just a crazy "true believer." |
| I’m grateful every day that Biden is charge of this situation. This administration has really surprised me with how well they’ve handled it. |
800m on nuclear weapons? For Russia. Wow. America spent 44 BILLION on nukes in 2021. And we are supposed to be scared when? |
NP - what do you suggest as the alternative? Ukraine has been trying to break free from Russia for a decade. We, and other western powers, have partnered with them politically and militarily for the better part of the last decade. They gave up their nukes in '93 with the assurance that what Putin is trying to do would not be allowed to happen. Putin didn't like them pulling away and has manufactured pretense after pretense to invade. And then his forces have committed horrific war crimes. Nothing the world has done in the last decade has deterred Putin. At some point enough is enough. And literally every talking head out there, including the ones that swore Russia would not invade, predicted a swift loss for Ukraine because of Russia's formidable military. All of that analysis and assessment was wrong. I have yet to hear or see any analysis regarding Russia's maintenance of its nuclear arsenal. Are they even in any shape to transport a tactical nuke, much less deploy it? And in any deployment of such a weapon, it still comes down to people giving the orders and pushing the button. I'm not convinced Putin can be certain his order will be carried out. |
+1. No serious person just drops this into the discussion and leaves. |