The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings

[Anonymous]

Wtf
bad try.
Sorry, people go by USN&WR

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wtf
bad try.
Sorry, people go by USN&WR

Love this how do I heart this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wtf
bad try.
Sorry, people go by USN&WR

This is actually better than USN&WR. Not everyone goes just by it, my family has also paid close attention to Wall Street Journal and Forbes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW

Where are Rice and Amherst?

Correct you are I somehow forgot Rice. Amherst was not included because the source data did not include LACs. With Rice it's now:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Rice
14. Berkeley
15. UMich
16. Dartmouth
17. Georgetown
18. Johns Hopkins
19. Cornell
20. Notre Dame
21. WashU (tie)
21. UChicago (tie)
23. Brown
24. UNC
25. UF (tie)
25. UVA (tie)
27. CMU
---Big Gap---
28. Georgia Tech
29. UCSD
30. USC
31. Emory
32. UIUC
33. UCD
34. UCI
35. UW Seattle
36. BC
37. Wake Forest
38. UT Austin
39. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
40. W&M
41. UCSB
42. Lehigh
43. Purdue
---Big Gap---
44. Texas A&M
45. UMD
46. Virginia Tech
47. BU
48. UGA
49. NYU
50. NCSU

Why are there so many errors in this list? You didn’t just copy and paste???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wtf
bad try.
Sorry, people go by USN&WR

This is actually better than USN&WR. Not everyone goes just by it, my family has also paid close attention to Wall Street Journal and Forbes.

No it's not, I did a similar ranking and used only Forbes, WSJ, US News and Niche. But I weighted US News 2x. So it counted 40 percent and the others 20 percent. US News is the most widely read, for better or worse, and therefore the most influential. Unfortunate but true.

[Anonymous]

Also this has no SLACs on there, you are missing elite schools like Amherst, Williams, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Barnard, Smith, etc.

[Anonymous]

It would be great to influence US News more on how they rank. Other methodologies have merit but the bottom line is US News has the eyeballs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It would be great to influence US News more on how they rank. Other methodologies have merit but the bottom line is US News has the eyeballs.

Exactly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be great to influence US News more on how they rank. Other methodologies have merit but the bottom line is US News has the eyeballs.

Exactly

I think many people also use WSJ, Forbes, and Niche. WSJ is popular in New York/finance circles, Forbes is popular in general business circles, and Niche is popular among the younger crowd. I would agree the average parent goes mostly by US News though, and especially the people on forums like these. Generally most people don't really care though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also this has no SLACs on there, you are missing elite schools like Amherst, Williams, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Barnard, Smith, etc.

It was based on the data from that Reddit post so I imagine OP didn’t have LAC data. Even then, several rankings include LACs with the other universities such as Forbes, Niche, and Money. Williams in particular does very well even compared to Ivies, Stanford, Duke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW

Why the big gap between Penn and Caltech? Caltech is one of the most elite schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be great to influence US News more on how they rank. Other methodologies have merit but the bottom line is US News has the eyeballs.

Exactly

I think many people also use WSJ, Forbes, and Niche. WSJ is popular in New York/finance circles, Forbes is popular in general business circles, and Niche is popular among the younger crowd. I would agree the average parent goes mostly by US News though, and especially the people on forums like these. Generally most people don't really care though.

Niche? Lmao. Might as well just use Google Reviews. No one takes Niche seriously, not even “young people.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW

Who are you? Do you work for Lehigh, BYU, or NCSU?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Surprised to see Lehigh in the 50. Thought WSJ was the only ranking that gave them love.

Washington Monthly gives them love because they do not consider cost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW

Very interesting. No Tufts? What ranking did it do bad on to remove it from the top 50?

I went to Wash. U. I think that it’s strange to see Wash. U. here without Rice, Tufts, Rochester, Tulane and Case Western being here at all. The idea that Vanderbilt is ranked so much higher seems puzzling. I’m sure it’s a fine school, but I’ve always thought of it as being similar to Emory and Tulane.

I also think that, if this list is about research, the absence of places like Penn State, Ohio State and Maryland is odd.

If it’s about undergraduate education, the idea that a lot of overcrowded UC schools are here and places like Williams aren’t here is odd.

Rice not being included was a mistake, if you look at the most recent list posted Rice is where it's supposed to be. Tufts actually didn't make the top 50 because it did very poorly on some of the rankings. Perhaps Vanderbilt has simply become a top notch school. Its 6% acceptance rate is hard to ignore.

Which rankings did Tufts do poorly on? Making a living?