The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings
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Anonymous
Meaning it's stoned off its @ss, obviously |
Anonymous
Sob!! |
Anonymous
I went to Wash. U. I think that it’s strange to see Wash. U. here without Rice, Tufts, Rochester, Tulane and Case Western being here at all. The idea that Vanderbilt is ranked so much higher seems puzzling. I’m sure it’s a fine school, but I’ve always thought of it as being similar to Emory and Tulane. I also think that, if this list is about research, the absence of places like Penn State, Ohio State and Maryland is odd. If it’s about undergraduate education, the idea that a lot of overcrowded UC schools are here and places like Williams aren’t here is odd. |
Anonymous
And no Rice. The list is simply defective. |
Anonymous
Genuine question, as a WashU grad do you feel insecure playing third fiddle to Northwestern and UChicago in the Midwest region? We are considering it for our DC but have heard this take from a few others who are familiar with the school. |
Anonymous
When I ran the aid calculator, Princeton gave us twice as much as Harvard. Maybe it offers much better aid overall than Harvard and is usually a better value. |
Anonymous
Brown and Rice were added after their omission was pointed out: 1. MIT 2. Stanford 3. Princeton ---Big Gap--- 4. Harvard 5. Yale 6. Duke 7. Penn ---Big Gap--- 8. Caltech 9. Northwestern 10. Columbia 11. Vanderbilt 12. UCLA 13. Rice 14. Berkeley 15. UMich 16. Dartmouth 17. Georgetown 18. Johns Hopkins 19. Cornell 20. Notre Dame 21. WashU (tie) 21. UChicago (tie) 23. Brown 24. UNC 25. UF (tie) 25. UVA (tie) 27. CMU ---Big Gap--- 28. Georgia Tech 29. UCSD 30. USC 31. Emory 32. UIUC 33. UCD 34. UCI 35. UW Seattle 36. BC 37. Wake Forest 38. UT Austin 39. UW Madison ---Big Gap--- 40. W&M 41. UCSB 42. Lehigh 43. Purdue ---Big Gap--- 44. Texas A&M 45. UMD 46. Virginia Tech 47. BU 48. UGA 49. NYU 50. NCSU |
Anonymous
Rice not being included was a mistake, if you look at the most recent list posted Rice is where it's supposed to be. Tufts actually didn't make the top 50 because it did very poorly on some of the rankings. Perhaps Vanderbilt has simply become a top notch school. Its 6% acceptance rate is hard to ignore. |
Anonymous
+1 Princeton is known for giving phenomenal aid, which probably helps it a lot in the rankings |
Anonymous
NP. I ran EFC calculators and UChicago, MIT and Columbia all provided significantly more aid than Harvard. |
Anonymous
You’ve hit upon the fatal flaw of USNWR rankings. You went to WUSTL, yet you seem to have no first hand knowledge of Vanderbilt or Tulane or Emory to make any assessment that they are or are not similar to each other, other than your general impression. The single biggest factor by a long shot in USNWR: a college’s reputation among its peers (most of whom know next to nothing about the “peer” universities they are assessing). The one thing they do know is, you guessed it, prior rankings, which are of course based on the similar flaw. It just keeps perpetuating the same legacy universities. There is no true or objective ranking. They tweak the methodology to create some shuffle to sell more magazines. And we f course we know the games all universities play to raise their ranking that has no bearing on educational excellence. Many of the factors have nothing at all to do with education, they are just loosely associated proxies (e.g., percentage of alumni donating). Ranking colleges is folly especially among the ones listed in this thread. There is no possible way to know if Chicago is better or worse than Hopkins or if Case Western is better or worse than RPI. Is gelato better than cake? Is purple better than green? I truly do not understand the obsession here with rank ordering these top universities. |
Anonymous
Is this really something you spend energy worrying about? Do Tufts and BC and BU and NEU students feel insecure about being 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th fiddle in the same city (let alone an area as big as the Midwest). Are you worried that your diamond shoes are too tight? Btw St. Louis is equidistant between Chicago and Nashville (about 300 miles driving distance). So why not include Vanderbilt? Notre Dame us only 40 or 50 miles from Chicago so why not include it? |
Anonymous
| the literal 100th posting about this shit |
Anonymous
+1 why would WashU have an inferiority complex about Northwestern or UChicago? UChicago is devoid of fun in so many ways, and Northwestern is a great school but it isn't leagues above WashU or anything. |
Anonymous
| Go Gators! |