The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings
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Anonymous
"Prestige" and "reputation" are different? What is "academics" if not reputation of academic quality? As flawed and controversial as USNWR is, at least they spell out their methodology in detail, have more granular rankings for specific things like undergrad teaching and undergrad research, are surveying senior administrators of accredited institutions, and have gone through intense intense scrutiny for 40 years. Not to be rude, but why would a list with no real description of methodology created by an unknown number of random people with unknown qualifications over a matter of days even begin to compare? Whatever floats your boat, I guess... But my personal advice having gone through the process a few times it to focus less on what others think and more on what's best for your own kid. |
Anonymous
I did for three kids. All are currently at Non HYP Ivies. The rankings contribute to the tiers along with general understanding of career, reputational, and academic prestige. |
Anonymous
Congratulations on your children. I have a couple kids at schools very highly ranked by USNWR. Perhaps I misunderstood your meaning, but I don't think that makes me as much of an expert as those surveyed by USNWR on topics like reputation or academic prestige. I think I am pretty expert on my kids and helping them find what fit their interests, but not much more! Career data is pretty messy in terms of whether there's statistically significant amount of data for each major at each school, but I used a combination of sources for that, including PayScale (more data than CollegeScorecard) and outcome data provided by each college. If one is looking for data beyond the above, I would suggest individual Common Data Sets, Princeton Review, Fiske, Colleges Worth Your Money, The College Finder, and the NSF survey of earned PhDs (more thorough than probably any other grad degree aggregator I came across). |
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We can talk in circles but at the end of the day, this is the best list.
1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale 1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia, Northwestern, UChicago 2A) Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell 2B) Berkeley, Rice, Vanderbilt, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley 3A) UMich, UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech 3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC |
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This. Plug in 12 LACs for T50
[Post New]10/11/2022 12:25 Subject: Re:The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings [Up] Anonymous 1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale 1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia 2A) Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth, Brown, Northwestern, UChicago 2B) Rice, Vanderbilt, WashU, Notre Dame, Cornell 3A) CMU, Emory, USC, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley 3B) NYU, UF, Georgia Tech, Tufts, BC, UTA, BU, Northeasetrn, WF, UMich, UVA, UNC |
Anonymous
| Can we get a few of these brilliant rankings published? You just need to come up with methodologies that generate the results you've already come up with and want to see! |
Anonymous
Whew, I'm just glad I was somehow able to get all three of the schools I graduated from on my concise 1-3 list  !
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Let's just end this right now:
Tier 1A UVA Tier 1B UVA Tier 2A UVA Tier 2B UVA Tier 3A Richmond Done. We can save the need to post anymore. |
Anonymous
It’s this one. We can close the thread now. |
Anonymous
1A) Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT 1B) UPenn, Caltech, Duke 2A) Columbia, UChicago, Dartmouth, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Brown, Cornell 2B) Berkeley, Rice, Vanderbilt, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA 3A) UMich, UVA, UNC, CMU, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech 3B) UCSD, UT Austin, W&M, NYU |
Anonymous
I think Columbia is probably at least 1B, and where are the LACs again? People keep throwing them out. |
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Let's end this:
1A) MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, Yale 1C) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia 2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Bowdoin 2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Claremont McKenna 3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury 3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford |
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1A) MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia 2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Bowdoin, Olin College of Engineering 2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Claremont McKenna, Harvey Mudd 3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury 3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford |
Anonymous
Wins the Thread! If you know you kknow. |
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Top 50 completion.
1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale 1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia 2A) Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth, Brown, Northwestern, UChicago 2B) Rice, Vanderbilt, WashU, Notre Dame, Cornell / Williams, Amherst 3) CMU, Emory, USC, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley / Pomona, Swarthmore, Wellesley, Bowdoin 4) NYU, UF, Georgia Tech, Tufts, BC, UTA, BU, Northeastern, WF, UMich, UVA, UNC, Rochester / Carleton, Claremont McKenna, W&L, Middlebury, Vassar Above are 49. Add 1 of your favorite to make it Top 50. |