The Top 50 National Universities by Average Rank from the 8 Most Influential Rankings

[Anonymous]

This has no credibility...big gap Harvard and Yale? Please. They forgot Brown and Rice. UW Seattle? You can only look to certain well read publications such as US News, WSJ, Forbes, and maybe Niche (not even sure on that one). GW knocked off the list because of Georgia and NC State? One ranking from a useless publication messes up this method. NO SLACs?

And the kicker--UVA is not number 1 and Richmond is not number 2.

[Anonymous]

Taking a bunch of subjective rankings and arbitrarily weighting to come up with an average does not result in an accurate ranking.

[Anonymous]

Remove GW

Add Brown or Rice

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW

Wow, is UChicago paying US News or something? Because it looks like they do much worse on every ranking that is not US News. Really puts them in a different light once you look outside the US News tunnel. Same with Johns Hopkins, it dropped dramatically once you look outside US News.

Seems like this composite is just a way to get a different result. I'm not a big fan of Chicago either. This list has many questionable picks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW

Very interesting. No Tufts? What ranking did it do bad on to remove it from the top 50?

I went to Wash. U. I think that it’s strange to see Wash. U. here without Rice, Tufts, Rochester, Tulane and Case Western being here at all. The idea that Vanderbilt is ranked so much higher seems puzzling. I’m sure it’s a fine school, but I’ve always thought of it as being similar to Emory and Tulane.

I also think that, if this list is about research, the absence of places like Penn State, Ohio State and Maryland is odd.

If it’s about undergraduate education, the idea that a lot of overcrowded UC schools are here and places like Williams aren’t here is odd.

I have no idea what this list really means.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW

Very interesting. No Tufts? What ranking did it do bad on to remove it from the top 50?

I went to Wash. U. I think that it’s strange to see Wash. U. here without Rice, Tufts, Rochester, Tulane and Case Western being here at all. The idea that Vanderbilt is ranked so much higher seems puzzling. I’m sure it’s a fine school, but I’ve always thought of it as being similar to Emory and Tulane.

I also think that, if this list is about research, the absence of places like Penn State, Ohio State and Maryland is odd.

If it’s about undergraduate education, the idea that a lot of overcrowded UC schools are here and places like Williams aren’t here is odd.

Genuine question, as a WashU grad do you feel insecure playing third fiddle to Northwestern and UChicago in the Midwest region? We are considering it for our DC but have heard this take from a few others who are familiar with the school.

Is this really something you spend energy worrying about? Do Tufts and BC and BU and NEU students feel insecure about being 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th fiddle in the same city (let alone an area as big as the Midwest). Are you worried that your diamond shoes are too tight?

Btw St. Louis is equidistant between Chicago and Nashville (about 300 miles driving distance). So why not include Vanderbilt? Notre Dame us only 40 or 50 miles from Chicago so why not include it?

This is absolutely something that Tufts kids think and care about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW

Very interesting. No Tufts? What ranking did it do bad on to remove it from the top 50?

I went to Wash. U. I think that it’s strange to see Wash. U. here without Rice, Tufts, Rochester, Tulane and Case Western being here at all. The idea that Vanderbilt is ranked so much higher seems puzzling. I’m sure it’s a fine school, but I’ve always thought of it as being similar to Emory and Tulane.

I also think that, if this list is about research, the absence of places like Penn State, Ohio State and Maryland is odd.

If it’s about undergraduate education, the idea that a lot of overcrowded UC schools are here and places like Williams aren’t here is odd.

Genuine question, as a WashU grad do you feel insecure playing third fiddle to Northwestern and UChicago in the Midwest region? We are considering it for our DC but have heard this take from a few others who are familiar with the school.

Is this really something you spend energy worrying about? Do Tufts and BC and BU and NEU students feel insecure about being 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th fiddle in the same city (let alone an area as big as the Midwest). Are you worried that your diamond shoes are too tight?

Btw St. Louis is equidistant between Chicago and Nashville (about 300 miles driving distance). So why not include Vanderbilt? Notre Dame us only 40 or 50 miles from Chicago so why not include it?

+1 why would WashU have an inferiority complex about Northwestern or UChicago? UChicago is devoid of fun in so many ways, and Northwestern is a great school but it isn't leagues above WashU or anything.

WashU kids in my experience definitely are insecure to an extent about exactly those two schools though…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you take the average ranking from US News, WSJ/THE, Niche, Forbes, Washington Monthly, Money, Wallet Hub, and Degree Choices, you get an overall ranking of:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Princeton
---Big Gap---
4. Harvard
5. Yale
6. Duke
7. Penn
---Big Gap---
8. Caltech
9. Northwestern
10. Columbia
11. Vanderbilt
12. UCLA
13. Berkeley
14. UMich
15. Dartmouth
16. Georgetown
17. Johns Hopkins
18. Cornell
19. Notre Dame
20. WashU (tie)
20. UChicago (tie)
22. UNC
23. UF (tie)
23. UVA (tie)
25. CMU
---Big Gap---
26. Georgia Tech
27. UCSD
28. USC
29. Emory
30. UIUC
31. UCD
32. UCI
33. UW Seattle
34. BC
35. Wake Forest
36. UT Austin
37. UW Madison
---Big Gap---
38. W&M
39. UCSB
40. Lehigh
41. Purdue
---Big Gap---
42. Texas A&M
43. UMD
44. Virginia Tech
45. BU
46. UGA
47. NYU
48. NCSU
49. BYU
50. GW

Very interesting. No Tufts? What ranking did it do bad on to remove it from the top 50?

I went to Wash. U. I think that it’s strange to see Wash. U. here without Rice, Tufts, Rochester, Tulane and Case Western being here at all. The idea that Vanderbilt is ranked so much higher seems puzzling. I’m sure it’s a fine school, but I’ve always thought of it as being similar to Emory and Tulane.

I also think that, if this list is about research, the absence of places like Penn State, Ohio State and Maryland is odd.

If it’s about undergraduate education, the idea that a lot of overcrowded UC schools are here and places like Williams aren’t here is odd.

Genuine question, as a WashU grad do you feel insecure playing third fiddle to Northwestern and UChicago in the Midwest region? We are considering it for our DC but have heard this take from a few others who are familiar with the school.

Is this really something you spend energy worrying about? Do Tufts and BC and BU and NEU students feel insecure about being 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th fiddle in the same city (let alone an area as big as the Midwest). Are you worried that your diamond shoes are too tight?

Btw St. Louis is equidistant between Chicago and Nashville (about 300 miles driving distance). So why not include Vanderbilt? Notre Dame us only 40 or 50 miles from Chicago so why not include it?

+1 why would WashU have an inferiority complex about Northwestern or UChicago? UChicago is devoid of fun in so many ways, and Northwestern is a great school but it isn't leagues above WashU or anything.

WashU kids in my experience definitely are insecure to an extent about exactly those two schools though…

What an asinine statement - your so called "experience" means nothing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lol at GW making this list

Lol at Princeton at #3.

[Anonymous]

WashU has major Tufts syndrome vibes.

[Anonymous]

It's hilarious watching grown men and women putting colleges down. So much insecurity all around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's hilarious watching grown men and women putting colleges down. So much insecurity all around.

Most definitely. This forum is ground zero for insecurity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WashU has major Tufts syndrome vibes.

Do students at Tufts feel that way? I know some MIT and BU students feel a little chip on their shoulder with Harvard so close but Tufts seems more self contained. Similarly, you see that very close proximity "syndrome" some locally with GW and Gtown.

WashU is the best school in its large area though. It is nearly 5 hours from Chicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame or any other school that might cause some complex. I just don't see that vibe nor have I heard about it. Those are the top private research universities in the midwest but WashU isn't within a metro area or even a short drive like the others.

I could see St. Louis U. students feeling a bit like some of the MIT, BU, and GW students but don't see the WashU "syndrome."

[Anonymous]

The bigger point is that no one should feel superior or inferior to another person just based on where they go or went to school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WashU has major Tufts syndrome vibes.

Do students at Tufts feel that way? I know some MIT and BU students feel a little chip on their shoulder with Harvard so close but Tufts seems more self contained. Similarly, you see that very close proximity "syndrome" some locally with GW and Gtown.

WashU is the best school in its large area though. It is nearly 5 hours from Chicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame or any other school that might cause some complex. I just don't see that vibe nor have I heard about it. Those are the top private research universities in the midwest but WashU isn't within a metro area or even a short drive like the others.

I could see St. Louis U. students feeling a bit like some of the MIT, BU, and GW students but don't see the WashU "syndrome."

I doubt many MIT students feel much of a chip on their shoulder. They’re the best at what they do: hard academics and rigorous standards. Some people may find out it’s not the right pace for them, sure, but I imagine it’s very rare to find MIT students who actually believe they or their MIT peers have some deficiency that the Harvard kids don’t.