are teenage boys particularly jerkish about girls these days?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a boy and a girl. My kids are modest, smart, friendly, social and good in academics. [b]They laugh at the girls who try too hard and act skanky and the boys who lie and cheat to get into their pants. Fortunately such shallow boys and girls are a very small population of the student population.

Your kids will be fine as long as they are friends with other kids like them and they stay off social media. Especially, they should not post weird near naked pictures of themselves on social media.

You and your kids sound like mean people

It’s true, that pps are jerks.

[Anonymous]

My kids are in single sex schools in Baltimore and this would not be an accurate statement. Plenty of dating at all levels of popularity especially junior year and after.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I’ve seen happen to girls several times is they think they’re starting a relationship with a guy on social media (sometimes even a guy in the same school) and then, after weeks and RIGHT before they’re supposed to have their first in person date, the guy totally ghosts them.

Sadly, this is often right after the guy received the racy photos he wanted.

Stop trolling you are really bad at it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The popular 15-16 year old girls are the ones giving head or having.sex.with guys at parties and not thinking twice about it....I am not exaggerating. Be very glad your daughter is not part of that crowd. The boys know who to seek out

No. What is wrong with you? Those are not the most popular girls.

Do you have a popular daughter and so that's why you're objecting?

Pretty true in my experience too and a lot of the parents have zero clue what is going on. The boys talk and know who puts out. Tale as old as time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have 16-17 year old g/b twins in NW DC/close-in Bethesda.
My kids have friends across public/private/Catholic.

My daughter has a tight group of friends (6) and none of them have ever dated. They find that the boys are only interested in a select type of girls.
My daughter and her friends are pretty, sporty, stylish, slim, smart. What they aren't are popular and they're not the types to post bikini shots on Instagram.

They receive next to no interest from boys. For some time this seemed awesome (who needs boys?) but now I find myself feeling a bit sad for them. It feels
(maybe I'm wrong) that girls have to really sell themselves these days to get the attention of ANY boys. All the boys are clamoring over the same circle of girls
(the popular 10 or so from each high school and they all know each other from Instagram) and the rest receive no attention. This transcends schools (these are boys from Catholic/public/private). My son and his friends are guilty of it as well which makes it worse. They turn up their noses (and basically lead on and then make fun of) other girls.
It's horrible and I've had long talks to him about it. Many long talks.

Anyone else notice this dynamic? It doesn't feel like it was this way when I was growing up. Boys were less picky and less a$$holish about girls.

An accurate representation of High School. I always tell my kid that "having a boy or girlfriend is not an accomplishment." It will happen when it happen. But, luckily DC is not super interested yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The popular 15-16 year old girls are the ones giving head or having.sex.with guys at parties and not thinking twice about it....I am not exaggerating. Be very glad your daughter is not part of that crowd. The boys know who to seek out

+1

I have to agree, unfortunately. My DD is on a high-performing sports team and they often play truth telling games. The number of the girls who admitted to this is high, and all of the popular ones.

One anecdote. . . . this was also my experience in HS however, what seems like a century ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The popular 15-16 year old girls are the ones giving head or having.sex.with guys at parties and not thinking twice about it....I am not exaggerating. Be very glad your daughter is not part of that crowd. The boys know who to seek out

+1

I have to agree, unfortunately. My DD is on a high-performing sports team and they often play truth telling games. The number of the girls who admitted to this is high, and all of the popular ones.

One anecdote. . . . this was also my experience in HS however, what seems like a century ago.

Same. One of my friends in high school was very popular and she came from a lovely family and her parents had ZERO CLUE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My boys were really not interested until jr year of HS, so most their dating experience as a teen is senior year or college (still a teen).

They found girls are a bit mean and kinda crazy

In the Fall, A girl said in front of my son “nobody is gonna ask me to prom”, him thinking that’s sad “if I don’t have a date we can go as friends”. They did because she acted like he was her boyfriend for the rest of the year, like a psycho. He said over and over, we are friends stop bribing me gifts every week. I know I just thought it would be nice. After Prom he was busy and there was a complete psycho meltdown with yelling for not seeing her in the summer, like he ghosted her.

My son dated a girl for 4 months and broke up. She egged our house.

Girls have “groups” and if my son dates a girl from group A and his friend dates a girl from group B they can never go out together because girl groups don’t mix.

Girls cry a lot, over seemingly random stuff.

At college it just got worse.

A girl hits up his roommate in college, hey wanna come over? Roommate: Sure girl: as if no. The dude was home just playing keyboard why f with him.

Walk up to girl, says hi. Girl: Why would I talk to you. Or Keep walking. You can only talk to me if you buy me a drink. Etc.

My son did this at a tailgate so we could see it in action. It’s funny , his move now is to say hi, get the rude reaction, then say I’m saying hi to Dave, point to Dave. These are girls at his and his friends tailgates. Once he said “hi” and she said “do I know you?” And he said “idk your drinking my beer so I guess I had the same question “ he’s not asking for a date, he said “hi”.

Not just “beautiful” girls or “popular” girls.

They literally won’t engage in conversation with a girl unless she is a friend of a friend. My boys have lots of friends that are girls but girlfriends are few and far between… and it should be few and far between.

Now that they are older even the girls they take out on a date want to know what you are going to buy them. What is that? My son took a girl on a date and she ordered an expensive bottle of wine, he was not drinking wine. Really? $80 for wine. He went on a few dates with another girl, they went shopping together and she was pissed he would not buy her $200 shoes and some clothes. Girl I’ve known you 2 months.

My son has 1000 stories like this.

It's a bit early to be this drunk, no?

Sorry just bored at the airport.

Sorry but this is all true

Your stories (?) make no sense and clearly your son is just telling you things that fit your very narrow perspective on women. Or perhaps he shares the same worldview. Either way, you both sound like incels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I’ve seen happen to girls several times is they think they’re starting a relationship with a guy on social media (sometimes even a guy in the same school) and then, after weeks and RIGHT before they’re supposed to have their first in person date, the guy totally ghosts them.

Sadly, this is often right after the guy received the racy photos he wanted.

Stop trolling you are really bad at it.

Absolutely not a troll. I know the girls, their parents and the situations. Next time you hear of high schoolers dating ask if it’s in real life or online — you might be surprised.

[Anonymous]

The girls are just as jerky. Maybe even moreso. Come on.

[Anonymous]

I think part of it is that boys used to just see/get crushes on girls by seeing them in real life, so all cute/pretty girls were basically on equal footing. Now there are girls willing to expose themselves on social media in bathing suits, push up bras, sexy poses, etc and other girls not willing to do that because they think it's pathetic and/or know their parents will kill them. The ones who put themselves out there on social media are sending the message loud and clear that they want attention from boys, and so, naturally, that's who teenage boys focus on.

OP -- like others have said, if your daughter wants to date or hang out with a boy, she needs to focus on the non-douchebag boys, ie, not your son's group of friends. There are smart, athletic, funny, handsome boys who are like your daughter and her friends. They are interested in girls, but a little shy. I know because I have one!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My boys were really not interested until jr year of HS, so most their dating experience as a teen is senior year or college (still a teen).

They found girls are a bit mean and kinda crazy

In the Fall, A girl said in front of my son “nobody is gonna ask me to prom”, him thinking that’s sad “if I don’t have a date we can go as friends”. They did because she acted like he was her boyfriend for the rest of the year, like a psycho. He said over and over, we are friends stop bribing me gifts every week. I know I just thought it would be nice. After Prom he was busy and there was a complete psycho meltdown with yelling for not seeing her in the summer, like he ghosted her.

My son dated a girl for 4 months and broke up. She egged our house.

Girls have “groups” and if my son dates a girl from group A and his friend dates a girl from group B they can never go out together because girl groups don’t mix.

Girls cry a lot, over seemingly random stuff.

At college it just got worse.

A girl hits up his roommate in college, hey wanna come over? Roommate: Sure girl: as if no. The dude was home just playing keyboard why f with him.

Walk up to girl, says hi. Girl: Why would I talk to you. Or Keep walking. You can only talk to me if you buy me a drink. Etc.

My son did this at a tailgate so we could see it in action. It’s funny , his move now is to say hi, get the rude reaction, then say I’m saying hi to Dave, point to Dave. These are girls at his and his friends tailgates. Once he said “hi” and she said “do I know you?” And he said “idk your drinking my beer so I guess I had the same question “ he’s not asking for a date, he said “hi”.

Not just “beautiful” girls or “popular” girls.

They literally won’t engage in conversation with a girl unless she is a friend of a friend. My boys have lots of friends that are girls but girlfriends are few and far between… and it should be few and far between.

Now that they are older even the girls they take out on a date want to know what you are going to buy them. What is that? My son took a girl on a date and she ordered an expensive bottle of wine, he was not drinking wine. Really? $80 for wine. He went on a few dates with another girl, they went shopping together and she was pissed he would not buy her $200 shoes and some clothes. Girl I’ve known you 2 months.

My son has 1000 stories like this.

It's a bit early to be this drunk, no?

Sorry just bored at the airport.

Sorry but this is all true

Your stories (?) make no sense and clearly your son is just telling you things that fit your very narrow perspective on women. Or perhaps he shares the same worldview. Either way, you both sound like incels.

Lol it’s not 1 son and it’s not just my sons. Sorry you think they are incels because they only date girl they meet through friends.

I gave you a few examples of 6 years of dating.

I just think people don’t want to admit some boys are jerks and some girls are psycho,

[Anonymous]

Count your blessings. In college things will get better. Wouldn’t want my HS kid dating anyways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was a teen in the late 1990’s/early 2000’s and this doesn’t sound that different from what I experienced.

There were a group of beautiful popular girls everyone wanted to date and most others didn’t really date. Maybe there would 10-20% of the high school who dated outside of these popular kids. Then that left 80% of students who didn’t date in high school.

Many people I knew started dating after they graduated and went to college.

+1 same age

All the boys pining over the same popular girls

Totally different experience in college

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm laughing because the "first girl with a bra/boobs" will always (well, until first year of college) be seen as the one to "get"/lay, but the boys won't realize there is nothing between the ears until they are older (second year of college, on). It is then too late for those girls who sprouted early - but the boys - they have time.......the girls, not so much.....

The boys are then men, and glad they dodged a bullet, but those girls - they are a bit stunted, shall we say, now and forever.

Ask me how I know.

I’m not understanding.