Septic, liters of blood lost and on a breathing machine
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Anonymous
It’s biblical. I kid you not. Due to Eve’s original sin, “I will sharply increase the pain of childbirth. In pain shall you bring forth children”. Genesis 3:16. I was raised with this ash*t. In the Cristofascist state Of the American Taliban, you have to live out Handmaid Amy and I Like Beers! belief that childbirth is supposed to be traumatic and painful. You in pain yet? |
Anonymous
I’m the OP of this thread and thank you. I grew up in this, too. It’s like none of these people understand how visceral is the misogyny among forced birthers, and I can read easily the subtle “oof, you guys are over the top” tone in some replies (not so much in this thread, but definitely in others). Truly, it’s almost clownish how much they hate women and want to see them punished for existing and they don’t really try to hide it. The whole forced birther movement exists to punish women, because it is rooted in a world in which women are inherently worth less than men. The cruelty is the point. |
Anonymous
Actually, yes. I hadn’t thought about it that way, but… yes. If you are unmarried, pregnancy is the punishment for being a dirty, dirty slut. And d*mn it, you will be forced to deal with the burden of that sin (which is a tip tally healthy mindset for a new mother /s). And if you are married, every child Gov gives is a wanted gift and will result in a live birth, with happy healthy mom and and baby. That’s the whole worldview. |
"Boys will be boys".....
Anonymous
No no no.. if the woman can't conceive or miscarries, then it was just God's will. You need to pray harder. And BTW, I grew up in the church. This is all about punishing women. I used to be "pro-life". I realized later that it's about punishing women, and they are really pro-birthers, no pro-lifers. |
Anonymous
Oh yeah. I grew up in the South and stumbled into a woman's studies minor in college. Which impacted the rest of my life so much. I married someone who considered me a true equal. Was a full partner in raising kids. Supported my career as much as I supported his, etc. Which is a different thread. (And, BTW, why College terrifies Cons so much). But as part of one class, we looked at how deliveries with no pain meds are the gold standard. The choice of “good mothers” who want what’s best for their children. And women who want an epidural or need a C-section had a “less than birth”. And in the South, I certainly had women become uncomfortable and say they were sorry that I had a C-section. I actually had people ask if I was I upset I had not had a “real birth experience”. (Nope. I mean, I came home with a beautiful baby, so no regrets here). That was about 1990. More tha 30 years later. And 20 years after I gave birth, we can do amazing new things with pain relief, nerve stimulators, etc FFS, we have CRISPER and the COVID shot technology. But there has not been a single advancement pain relief in childcare. Because having laboring women suffer is part of Gods plan. If men gave birth, the technology would exis5 for it to be painless— and timed tp avoid major sporting events. Today, you still have L&D nurses who try to talk women out of pain meds and epidurals. C“You can do it. Just a few more minutes”) . Because a “good mother” ( wants a medication free delivery. A god fearing woman accepts the original sin of Eve and ( in my moms words) “offers it up”. SMDH |
Anonymous
Except we don’t talk openly about miscarriages or infertility. Whisper with oblique references maybe. Give women the side eye. Wonder what they did wrong to cause the situation, sure. Miscarriage is shameful. It happens because woman did something wrong. And it isn’t mentioned because we are ashamed. We certainly don’t know anyone else who has miscarried (narrators voice: 1/3 to 1/2 of her friends miscarried before the end of their childbearing years). ). |
Anonymous
I hadn’t really thought of that aspect of why we prize some deliveries over others, but that totally tracks (FTR, I hated my c-section but not because I “failed” or didn’t have a “real birth,” but because I despised being awake for surgery for which my anesthesia didn’t work properly and I had way too much sensation and because my VBACs had so much faster and easier recoveries). Prior to my c-section I was trying to have a home birth and I took Bradley birth classes and those had the most nauseating whiff of “women in their right place - suffering!” misogyny to them. Actually in retrospect so much of the home birth-granola stuff had a strong stench of fundie to them (hello, BirthCare, I’m looking at you). |
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+1 |
Anonymous
Did we read the same article? The one where she said that her own doctor helping her wasn't an option? There are also many other articles where Texan women have stated that their doctors could not do anything for them if there was a fetal heartbeat and they were not at immediate risk, ie "this baby isn't viable but we can't help you until you're septic, not just at risk of sepsis." |
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+1 |
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We didn’t screw up at all. This is the result we intended. You don’t know us at all. ~Republicans. |
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