Septic, liters of blood lost and on a breathing machine
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Anonymous
But what about the baaayyybbbeesss? is the cray of every forced birther I know. They aren't the smartest people, which is why they are easily manipulated by the far right wing for it's own purposes.. |
Anonymous
Replace Catholic with Evangelical, and it is the same story on one side of my extended family. Never the guy’s fault. Nope, not at all. That sinful woman tricked him into it! My ectopic pregnancy and years of infertility were “God’s will”, and I just needed to pray about it more. Fortunately, science is a thing, and IVF worked for me. I consider myself Christian (Methodist, non-evangelical), and these types of people disgust me. |
"Boys will be boys".....
Anonymous
I live in Texas. The health/life exception is BS. This is just a sampling of what has happened already since Sep 2021 when SB8 went into effect. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2207423
And this is just what is documented and published already from people willing to speak about it. No doubt there are many other such stories developing now, or where the woman wanted to keep it a private matter, or where the doctor did not want to risk her job/safety by speaking out. |
Anonymous
People are saying that this is why Trump ran as a R.. because he knew they were dumber. Dumb and Dumber go together and this is what we got. |
Anonymous
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And another story here. Yeah, those health/life exceptions are working out great.
https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/texas-mother-agonizing-choice-out-of-state-abortion/ |
Anonymous
God have us brains, science, and the ability to try to take some control some of our reproductive lives.... contraception, ivf and other technologies and even abortion. |
Anonymous
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There are pro life folks on this forum, but none will comment.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2207423 "Clinicians we interviewed recounted a variety of circumstances in which a patient could have received hospital-based abortion care before SB8 but was now denied that care. Patients with a life-limiting fetal diagnosis, such as anencephaly or bilateral renal agenesis, are only being counseled to continue their pregnancy and offered neonatal comfort care options after delivery. All hospitals where our respondents practiced have prohibited multifetal reduction, even though in some cases (e.g., complications of monochorionic twins) failure to perform the procedure could result in the loss of both twins. Patients with pregnancy complications or preexisting medical conditions that may be exacerbated by pregnancy are being forced to delay an abortion until their conditions become life-threatening and qualify as medical emergencies, or until fetal cardiac activity is no longer detectable. An MFM specialist reported that their hospital no longer offers treatment for ectopic pregnancies implanted in cesarean scars, despite strong recommendations from the Society for Maternal–Fetal Medicine that these life-threatening pregnancies be definitively managed with surgical or medical treatment.4 Some clinicians believe that patients with rupture of membranes before fetal viability are eligible for a medical exemption under SB8, while others believe these patients cannot receive an abortion so long as there is fetal cardiac activity. In multiple cases, the treating clinicians — believing, on the basis of their own or their hospital’s interpretation of the law, that they could not provide early intervention — sent patients home, only to see them return with signs of sepsis. An obstetrician–gynecologist recalled only one patient who was able to obtain an abortion at their hospital under SB8’s maternal health exemption, because her severe cardiac condition had progressed to the point that she was admitted to the intensive care unit. As an MFM specialist summarized, “People have to be on death’s door to qualify for maternal exemptions to SB8.”" https://www.ajog.org/action/showPdf?pii=S0002-9378%2822%2900536-1 "In two Texas hospitals, state-mandated expectant management of obstetric complications in the periviable period was associated with significant maternal morbidity (Figure). Consistent with reports evaluating outcomes in women requesting expectant management, the majority of pregnant patients at <22 weeks’ presenting with medical indications for delivery experienced serious morbidity, and fetal outcomes were poor. Expectant management resulted in 57% of patients having a serious maternal morbidity compared with 33% who elected immediate pregnancy interruption under similar clinical circumstances reported in states without such legislation" |
Anonymous
| Why do these states want to destroy their maternal healthcare systems? |
Anonymous
Stop calling them “pro life.” They are at best forced birth, and are actually probably closer to femicidal maniacs. |
Anonymous
I realize people think it’s hyperbole when some of us say that Republicans want to live in the 1850s but with phones and that’s pretty much it. They like the idea of women dying. They want slavery back. They don’t like all those icky LGBTQIA+ people out there living their lives with a modicum of protection. They hate experts and want to go back to blights taking whole harvests, people freezing to death from a lack of energy/fuel. Because they all think they’ll come out on top and that they’ll be the safe, protected ones. |
Anonymous
+1. My Catholic mother when I was 12 (12!!): if you have sex before marriage, God will punish you by making pregnant. Think through the ramifications of that worldview. |
Anonymous
And then when you get married, God will reward you by making you pregnant? I mean, the logic! |
Anonymous
Affluent women will not want to pregnant there. There is a lot that can go wrong between the time the zygote implants and delivery. Some of it, like and ectopic rupture or a serious placental abruption can’t wait until you get out of state. You’re 2 weeks into a wanted pregnancy. Haven’t even told your job yet. Go on a business trip and wake up in a pool of blood, hemorrhaging internally or externally. You can’t say: oh, the next state is three hours away. I’ll go there and deal with it. It would like having your appendix burst and then delaying care several hours before you could get to a place that would treat you. You’d be dead. No exception for the life of the mother? Ectopics alone are 1-2 percent. Incomplete miscarriage that turn septic without a D&C percentage is higher. Placental abruption. PROMS, Eclampsia, infection. Your are likely to get a 5-10% chance of a pregnancy resulting in the death of the mother in these states. That’s not a dramatic number. And no responsible woman would go to a state where a medical emergency could lead to theor preventable death. No Fortune 500 company would ask them to. Essay. Senselessly. |
Anonymous
She never even tried in TX. Life of the mother was definitely threatened |
Anonymous
Not yet, she would have to wait to truly be at risk. Read the above research articles. Doctors are afraid to act, maternal mortality ends up worse. Hindsight is always 20/20 though, especially when republicans look at cases after the fact and say "they could have qualified." ... well, when it's earlier on and there's a risk, but the mom is stable, it's unclear to physicians how to proceed and they tend to prefer to wait to protect their license. |