Ali Wong divorcing

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Anonymous wrote:I married into a wealthy family, and they would never have asked me to sign a prenup.
It’s an awful way to start a life together.

Eh, I don’t know. It sounds like his money at time of marriage was really family money.

This is what is confusing to me. Fine a prenup if it's family money not money he earned. But by saying she can't depend on him is she saying the prenup also included his earned money? Did it apply the other way where he doesn't get her money?

They are in California. Family money is easy to reach in divorce without a pre nup in California.

I like Ali Wong but I felt like some of her comments about the pre nup came across as at best ignorant, at worst a little entitled. It is very hard to protect family money in CA absent a pre nup. It’s not like the east coast.

We don’t know the terms of the prenup. I am still wondering how much money there was to protect if she had to pay off his student loans….

We don’t know, but it’s not unusual in CA to need a pre nup to protect family money since it’s so easy to get to it without a pre nup in a divorce. It’s also not unusual for wealthy families to have younger members take out student loans to give them some skin in the game and to avoid touching the principal. My guess is there is a fair amount of family money and some strategic use of low-rate loans.

Great but then she shouldn’t be the one paying off his loans.

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How she finds her Mr. (W)Right.

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Anonymous wrote:I keep coming back to this quote in the article:

As a result, the Always Be My Maybe star shared she became "more motivated to make my own money because I signed a document specifically outlining how much I couldn't depend on my husband,"

This is sad to me. I think especially after she became successful, the feeling that she believed in her husband but he didn’t believe in her would be increasingly hurtful. She tries to rationalize it so many ways and that’s what it comes down to: The person she married didn’t believe in her. I think there’s even part of Baby Covra where she says she used her TV money to pay off some of his debts? Ouch. That has to sting. I’m not surprised they’re getting divorced.

The "how much I couldn't depend on my husband" is very telling. Clearly there were issues before the wedding.

I think there may have been shame on her behalf, and possibly her family or origin, that his family made her sign a prenup, signalling that his family was better than hers. Better financially, in stature. She may have been perceived as a loser, a gold digger, “he or they didn’t believe in her”. She couldn’t depend on him to support her. They or he didnt seem to see that the marriage was long term. Money is an awkward thing in Asian cultures. A lot of pride around money. I am Asian, and I completely understand where she was coming from, the need to show him and his family that she was not a gold digger or loser. The anger, but also satisfaction in showing them they were wrong, when she ended up working a lot harder than him, laying their bills. That they did not have boys may have also been problematic. Grandsons would be more valued unfortunately.

Your beliefs about gender are very old fashioned, in the eyes of young Asian couples--even overseas.

I think it is ironic that he asked her to sign a pre-nup when he hid his own 70K debt!!

Not really. Up until four years ago China’s population was still highly favoring the birth of boy children under their legal child limitation policies - to the point that there is a serious deficit of females of any age in that country. In Japan, women are forbidden from inheriting the Japanese throne - central tenet of cultural and historical heritage. In Korea, they have the honor of having the worst female suicide rate in the world. In India, women are raped at the highest rate in the world.

They just don’t value or respect women in Asia which is why Wong being the breadwinner in her family took serious balls.

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Anonymous wrote:I married into a wealthy family, and they would never have asked me to sign a prenup.
It’s an awful way to start a life together.

Eh, I don’t know. It sounds like his money at time of marriage was really family money.

This is what is confusing to me. Fine a prenup if it's family money not money he earned. But by saying she can't depend on him is she saying the prenup also included his earned money? Did it apply the other way where he doesn't get her money?

They are in California. Family money is easy to reach in divorce without a pre nup in California.

I like Ali Wong but I felt like some of her comments about the pre nup came across as at best ignorant, at worst a little entitled. It is very hard to protect family money in CA absent a pre nup. It’s not like the east coast.

We don’t know the terms of the prenup. I am still wondering how much money there was to protect if she had to pay off his student loans….

We don’t know, but it’s not unusual in CA to need a pre nup to protect family money since it’s so easy to get to it without a pre nup in a divorce. It’s also not unusual for wealthy families to have younger members take out student loans to give them some skin in the game and to avoid touching the principal. My guess is there is a fair amount of family money and some strategic use of low-rate loans.

Great but then she shouldn’t be the one paying off his loans.

+1. I don’t blame her for resenting his family.

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Anonymous wrote:I married into a wealthy family, and they would never have asked me to sign a prenup.
It’s an awful way to start a life together.

Eh, I don’t know. It sounds like his money at time of marriage was really family money.

The thing is, family money is already protected in a divorce. The prenup had to be about HIS money. You don’t need a prenup to protect an inheritance—all you have to do is keep it in a separate account in your name only.

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Anonymous wrote:I keep coming back to this quote in the article:

As a result, the Always Be My Maybe star shared she became "more motivated to make my own money because I signed a document specifically outlining how much I couldn't depend on my husband,"

This is sad to me. I think especially after she became successful, the feeling that she believed in her husband but he didn’t believe in her would be increasingly hurtful. She tries to rationalize it so many ways and that’s what it comes down to: The person she married didn’t believe in her. I think there’s even part of Baby Covra where she says she used her TV money to pay off some of his debts? Ouch. That has to sting. I’m not surprised they’re getting divorced.

I do agree that is sad in a way (that the pre-nup made her feel financially insecure) but I’m not sure how you get that this means she believed in him and not vice versa? I assume it was at his family’s behest because he comes from money. Which, yes, sucks. But doesn’t mean he didn’t believe in her.

Stand-up is a crap shoot. Wong is very good at it, and obviously has a ton of hustle, but she also had to get lucky in some ways. I believe in my spouse but he’s in a low paying profession and is unlikely to make much more no matter how hard he works on his chosen career path.

The pre nup made the marriage unstable. She needed to go out and make money because there was none for her from him. She was alone in her own marriage.

NP. I signed a prenup too but we don't have kids and I wanted to show I wasn't marrying for money. If we part ways, I'll just leave with all my stuff. I hope Ali will get child support from her STBX. I think it's great that she pursued comedy as a career instead becoming a layabout SAHM in spite of her jokes about 'laying down' instead of leaning in.

She's the millionaire. He's a middle-rung VP at a online prescription website. They'll agree on CS from her and zero alimony for him thanks to that pre-nup.

Her $3 mil net worth isn't going to get them far in California.

I feel the bulk of that was made in the past few years. Her earning potential is on the rise.

Her husband’s is not.

He even quit his job to be a SAHD.

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Anonymous wrote:I married into a wealthy family, and they would never have asked me to sign a prenup.
It’s an awful way to start a life together.

Eh, I don’t know. It sounds like his money at time of marriage was really family money.

The thing is, family money is already protected in a divorce. The prenup had to be about HIS money. You don’t need a prenup to protect an inheritance—all you have to do is keep it in a separate account in your name only.

Again, not in CA.

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Anonymous wrote:I married into a wealthy family, and they would never have asked me to sign a prenup.
It’s an awful way to start a life together.

Eh, I don’t know. It sounds like his money at time of marriage was really family money.

This is what is confusing to me. Fine a prenup if it's family money not money he earned. But by saying she can't depend on him is she saying the prenup also included his earned money? Did it apply the other way where he doesn't get her money?

They are in California. Family money is easy to reach in divorce without a pre nup in California.

I like Ali Wong but I felt like some of her comments about the pre nup came across as at best ignorant, at worst a little entitled. It is very hard to protect family money in CA absent a pre nup. It’s not like the east coast.

We don’t know the terms of the prenup. I am still wondering how much money there was to protect if she had to pay off his student loans….

We don’t know, but it’s not unusual in CA to need a pre nup to protect family money since it’s so easy to get to it without a pre nup in a divorce. It’s also not unusual for wealthy families to have younger members take out student loans to give them some skin in the game and to avoid touching the principal. My guess is there is a fair amount of family money and some strategic use of low-rate loans.

Great but then she shouldn’t be the one paying off his loans.

+1. I don’t blame her for resenting his family.

Sure, but that’s a separate issue from whether it’s reasonable to have a pre nup to protect family money and whether there is family money (likely, in this case).

From their point of view, they likely think they were right to insist on a pre nup.

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Anonymous wrote:I married into a wealthy family, and they would never have asked me to sign a prenup.
It’s an awful way to start a life together.

Eh, I don’t know. It sounds like his money at time of marriage was really family money.

This is what is confusing to me. Fine a prenup if it's family money not money he earned. But by saying she can't depend on him is she saying the prenup also included his earned money? Did it apply the other way where he doesn't get her money?

They are in California. Family money is easy to reach in divorce without a pre nup in California.

I like Ali Wong but I felt like some of her comments about the pre nup came across as at best ignorant, at worst a little entitled. It is very hard to protect family money in CA absent a pre nup. It’s not like the east coast.

We don’t know the terms of the prenup. I am still wondering how much money there was to protect if she had to pay off his student loans….

It wasn’t student loans!

In her first special it was bad investments. I think she found out when they were buying a house or something like that. The special ends with her saying she should have known because at Harvard Business School they basically teach you how to cheat snd she was the mark or something like that.

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Anonymous wrote:Her last standup was not funny. I’m sad for them.

Are you kidding? Its hilarious.

Watching this as a childfree person, I wonder why Ali would have kids and then complain about them? Like it's expected your life is going to change. I get the impression that she wanted kids more than the husband because she said in her previous special she didn't want to be lonely in her old age.

I'm a mom (very happily) and I have found a lot of her standup really cathartic because no matter how much you love your kids, sometimes you are exhausted and annoyed and it feels so good to hear a working mom who clearly loves her kids express it so bluntly and crassly. It's a relief. I'd rather she say it than me, but there is not a mom on the planet who hasn't had a least a moment of wishing her kids would just go away. You feel guilty but there it is.

But her last special felt different to me because it wasn't just talking about how hard it is at times. It really felt like her jokes were about a simmering dissatisfaction with her married life with kids. And more than that, she's talking about jealousy and longing for a different life where she has her success and fame but doesn't have kids and a husband. That's different than her previous jokes. It's more specific to her. The older I get, the more grateful I am for my husband and children. But I'm not a famous person making millions off stand up. She must work with lots of other comedians and actors who just have a ton more freedom than she does and it's got to be such a mismatch at times. Like "yeah, I'd love to stay out until 6am drinking and joking with you guys, but I have get up at 5:30 with my toddler." I can see how that's hard but also can't really relate at all because my life isn't like that.

It happens a lot with famous comedians, they outgrow their audience and then what? They all get less insightfully funny as they get more successful because while they still have things to joke about, the are often just a lot less relatable than the material that made them famous in the first place. Audiences really love that moment of recognition in comedy, like "yes, that is me oh my god you nailed it." It's hard for millionaires to do that for a particularly broad group of people.

I don't see how. Her other specials were complaining about how no one told her how different post-partum care and the 4th trimester really was. You think she wouldn't go back in time to not have hernias or tears or whatever if she could?

Same deal. Now she's complaining about having to cart around snacks and diaper bags. I'd actually say physical ailments due to childbirth are worse than the minor inconvenience of always having to pre-plan for kid outings anyway.

She had C-sections.

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Anonymous wrote:I married into a wealthy family, and they would never have asked me to sign a prenup.
It’s an awful way to start a life together.

Eh, I don’t know. It sounds like his money at time of marriage was really family money.

This is what is confusing to me. Fine a prenup if it's family money not money he earned. But by saying she can't depend on him is she saying the prenup also included his earned money? Did it apply the other way where he doesn't get her money?

They are in California. Family money is easy to reach in divorce without a pre nup in California.

I like Ali Wong but I felt like some of her comments about the pre nup came across as at best ignorant, at worst a little entitled. It is very hard to protect family money in CA absent a pre nup. It’s not like the east coast.

We don’t know the terms of the prenup. I am still wondering how much money there was to protect if she had to pay off his student loans….

It wasn’t student loans!

In her first special it was bad investments. I think she found out when they were buying a house or something like that. The special ends with her saying she should have known because at Harvard Business School they basically teach you how to cheat snd she was the mark or something like that.

Maybe the pre nup she was complaining about so much will protect her more in the end. It sounds like it.

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Anonymous wrote:I married into a wealthy family, and they would never have asked me to sign a prenup.
It’s an awful way to start a life together.

Eh, I don’t know. It sounds like his money at time of marriage was really family money.

The thing is, family money is already protected in a divorce. The prenup had to be about HIS money. You don’t need a prenup to protect an inheritance—all you have to do is keep it in a separate account in your name only.

Again, not in CA.

Applies in CA too. The second the inheritance accounts mixes with anything of the spouse it becomes joint.

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Anonymous wrote:Her last standup was not funny. I’m sad for them.

Are you kidding? Its hilarious.

Watching this as a childfree person, I wonder why Ali would have kids and then complain about them? Like it's expected your life is going to change. I get the impression that she wanted kids more than the husband because she said in her previous special she didn't want to be lonely in her old age.

Just because you want something and get it doesn’t mean you don’t have the right to have a hard time or be challenged in life changing ways… also, you cannot always predict how children will affect a partnership (if you have kids with a partner). Sometimes, or a lot of the time, things get really really hard before you figure some stuff out.

Have you ever known anyone with a dog who has never had a complaint or challenge in regard to owning a dog?

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Anonymous wrote:I keep coming back to this quote in the article:

As a result, the Always Be My Maybe star shared she became "more motivated to make my own money because I signed a document specifically outlining how much I couldn't depend on my husband,"

This is sad to me. I think especially after she became successful, the feeling that she believed in her husband but he didn’t believe in her would be increasingly hurtful. She tries to rationalize it so many ways and that’s what it comes down to: The person she married didn’t believe in her. I think there’s even part of Baby Covra where she says she used her TV money to pay off some of his debts? Ouch. That has to sting. I’m not surprised they’re getting divorced.

The "how much I couldn't depend on my husband" is very telling. Clearly there were issues before the wedding.

I think there may have been shame on her behalf, and possibly her family or origin, that his family made her sign a prenup, signalling that his family was better than hers. Better financially, in stature. She may have been perceived as a loser, a gold digger, “he or they didn’t believe in her”. She couldn’t depend on him to support her. They or he didnt seem to see that the marriage was long term. Money is an awkward thing in Asian cultures. A lot of pride around money. I am Asian, and I completely understand where she was coming from, the need to show him and his family that she was not a gold digger or loser. The anger, but also satisfaction in showing them they were wrong, when she ended up working a lot harder than him, laying their bills. That they did not have boys may have also been problematic. Grandsons would be more valued unfortunately.

Your beliefs about gender are very old fashioned, in the eyes of young Asian couples--even overseas.

I think it is ironic that he asked her to sign a pre-nup when he hid his own 70K debt!!

I’m just telling it like it is- I personally don’t think boys are better than girls. But Asian cultures, including Japanese and Chinese, did and still do. My parents clearly dote on their grandsons, including my son, and they clearly favored my brothers. Sad truth.

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Anonymous wrote:I married into a wealthy family, and they would never have asked me to sign a prenup.
It’s an awful way to start a life together.

Eh, I don’t know. It sounds like his money at time of marriage was really family money.

The thing is, family money is already protected in a divorce. The prenup had to be about HIS money. You don’t need a prenup to protect an inheritance—all you have to do is keep it in a separate account in your name only.

Again, not in CA.

Applies in CA too. The second the inheritance accounts mixes with anything of the spouse it becomes joint.

Sure but the standards for what it means to mix are ridiculously low. It doesn’t have to even mix into the same account. It can be kept separate but if used for family expenses, is presumed to be mixed. I do not think people on the east coast understand just how easy it is to grab pre marital or family assets in a divorce in California. It’s not like the east coast.

There is a reason the billionaire divorcing wives establish residency in California a year before filing for divorce.