People starving and going insane in Shanghai

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:China took a different aproach to Covid. They would look at the US and point out we've had over 1 million deaths from Covid, while China has had under 5,000.

There is a "cost" to both approaches. The Chinese approach means people are stuck in their apartments for weeks on end, and subject to draconian rules. The US approach provided a whole lot more freedom, but at the cost of over a million lives.

OMG., are you that gullible? Do you also belive the Russians when they say they're not harming Ukrainians?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My friend has lived in Shanghai teaching English for over a decade. He has been getting food and grocery deliveries, including yesterday. Don’t believe everything you read.

+1 I also have a friend in Shanghai - a US ex-pat teacher - and she's having no trouble getting deliveries. It's certainly possible that some people are having issues but it's not the whole of Shanghai.

There are multiple Americans in Shanghai on social media, and they say it varies from area to area. Some say they haven't been able to get food deliveries for days, but their friends in other parts of Shanghai seem to have better luck.

This person has been detailing his family's experience. https://twitter.com/jaredtnelson/status/1512713451587710977?s=21&t=-Z-r4Q5H5feFtnd82irkew

I can't bear to post the videos of the workers beating the dogs to death.

I heard all the pets were being stuffed into bags but didn't know they'd kill them in such an awful way. That must have been some sadistic psycho to come up with that idea. How is it unchallenged by other officials as useless and barbaric?

What did you think would happen after stuffing them into bags? Dogs are considered food in China to begin with.

And not challenging other officials - I also wouldn't risk my career for a bunch of dogs.

[Anonymous]

In unrelated news, Russians reported a casualty rate of 2%. China somehow has accurate fatality numbers and testing despite everyone being locked in their apartments and no one going around doing the testing. And no one able to get to the hospital either.

China really knows how to handle undocumented people too. First they built the Great Wall of China, and then they only feed people who are registered to the city.

[Anonymous]

I have friends living in Shanghai who, while not actually starving or going insane, are feeling food insecure right now. That's a stressful feeling when you're trapped in your apartment with your family.

Shanghai requires enormous quantities of food to be transported in daily. It's understandable that there is nervousness and some food limitations and perhaps informal rationing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My coworker is from Shanghai and still has family there. She explained and said that people who are originally registered to live in Shanghai are getting supplies normally but those who have moved to the city from other places are lower on the priority list. The latter are facing shortages.

This makes sense. You can’t just live wherever you want to in china. Similar to the USSR, you have to have permission to move and settle somewhere. You have to officially register.

You have to register your move in most of Europe, too. Just don't need permission to do it. Dont make more of that than it is. Americans register their moves, they just don['t call it that because the registery is decentralized.

What on earth are you talking about? Americans registering their moves? That is not a thing.

[Anonymous]

My friend lives there. There was definitely warning before the lockdown started.

She posted videos leading up to the lockdown of different stores and what was left/out of stock due to the impending shutdowns.

Also, she's gotten 1-2 food deliveries per week.

The hardest thing according to her, is that the government will send out requests in the middle of the night for tests to be submitted by a certain time, usually very early the next morning. Also, they will send out requests for test very randomly during the middle of the day. Like she had to submit a test by 8am yesterday. The day before she had to submit a test by 7 am and then they had to go out with their compound mates to get antigen tests that afternoon.

They aren't allowed to do other things like take walks, but they can go out on their balconies. They have to submit a request to be allowed out with their dog for a walk and are monitored.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My friend lives there. There was definitely warning before the lockdown started.

She posted videos leading up to the lockdown of different stores and what was left/out of stock due to the impending shutdowns.

Also, she's gotten 1-2 food deliveries per week.

The hardest thing according to her, is that the government will send out requests in the middle of the night for tests to be submitted by a certain time, usually very early the next morning. Also, they will send out requests for test very randomly during the middle of the day. Like she had to submit a test by 8am yesterday. The day before she had to submit a test by 7 am and then they had to go out with their compound mates to get antigen tests that afternoon.

They aren't allowed to do other things like take walks, but they can go out on their balconies. They have to submit a request to be allowed out with their dog for a walk and are monitored.

What do you mean by food deliveries? Who pays?

[Anonymous]

This video sums up the situation well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:My friend has lived in Shanghai teaching English for over a decade. He has been getting food and grocery deliveries, including yesterday. Don’t believe everything you read.

+1 I also have a friend in Shanghai - a US ex-pat teacher - and she's having no trouble getting deliveries. It's certainly possible that some people are having issues but it's not the whole of Shanghai.

There are multiple Americans in Shanghai on social media, and they say it varies from area to area. Some say they haven't been able to get food deliveries for days, but their friends in other parts of Shanghai seem to have better luck.

This person has been detailing his family's experience. https://twitter.com/jaredtnelson/status/1512713451587710977?s=21&t=-Z-r4Q5H5feFtnd82irkew

I can't bear to post the videos of the workers beating the dogs to death.

I heard all the pets were being stuffed into bags but didn't know they'd kill them in such an awful way. That must have been some sadistic psycho to come up with that idea. How is it unchallenged by other officials as useless and barbaric?

That’s how authorities typically kill dogs in China. I’m surprised they put them in bags first. What did you expect from the land of the annual Yulin dog meat festival?

[Anonymous]

The food deliveries are being done by the military. Sustenance only. Not enough given out. Rationing hard.
The people were told to stock up months ago but most didn't because 1- they eat fresh vegetables daily and that doesn't keep long, 2- no shops open, no money made, 3- they thought the government was lying until they really were locked down. The people didn't think it would happen again because they were told it wouldn't.
Now you all know why those people here were whispering about prepping. You need to have food you like before you can't find it. Especially water and anything oats, wheat, meat. Pet food. Stock up hard on that. We may get food baskets but you need to have what you need just in case.
Don't ever think it won't happen here. Currently food riots in Sri Lanka, Peru, some Asian countries, Africa. The Africa food shortages are not just the poor, it's affecting everyone even the ones with money. I have a friend that works the oilfields in Africa. They aren't allowed to leave the compound they live in. He said people stand outside the gates begging for food and money. He has no reason to lie.
Don't listen to me. Wait it out and see. I'd rather have food than not. We prepped/are prepped. I think we have enough for 6 months and some we can share.
The prices alone should give you reason to stock up. Once it goes up it rarely goes down.
Do you really want to see a Black Friday scenario to buy food ?
I just know this, we'd rather prepare than not prepare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In unrelated news, Russians reported a casualty rate of 2%. China somehow has accurate fatality numbers and testing despite everyone being locked in their apartments and no one going around doing the testing. And no one able to get to the hospital either.

China really knows how to handle undocumented people too. First they built the Great Wall of China, and then they only feed people who are registered to the city.

Who transports and checks the tests?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:My coworker is from Shanghai and still has family there. She explained and said that people who are originally registered to live in Shanghai are getting supplies normally but those who have moved to the city from other places are lower on the priority list. The latter are facing shortages.

This makes sense. You can’t just live wherever you want to in china. Similar to the USSR, you have to have permission to move and settle somewhere. You have to officially register.

You have to register your move in most of Europe, too. Just don't need permission to do it. Dont make more of that than it is. Americans register their moves, they just don['t call it that because the registery is decentralized.

Okay, so when an American moves to another American city where they were not born, are they allowed to enroll their kids into the nearby public schools?

Are they allowed to go to any hospital in a different city?

Are they allowed to register to have multiple children?

Because if you don't have a hukou and live in that same city, you don't have all of those privileges. And, you can't get these privileges by "registering." If merely registering were the solution, there would be no problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My coworker is from Shanghai and still has family there. She explained and said that people who are originally registered to live in Shanghai are getting supplies normally but those who have moved to the city from other places are lower on the priority list. The latter are facing shortages.

This makes sense. You can’t just live wherever you want to in china. Similar to the USSR, you have to have permission to move and settle somewhere. You have to officially register.

You have to register your move in most of Europe, too. Just don't need permission to do it. Dont make more of that than it is. Americans register their moves, they just don['t call it that because the registery is decentralized.

What on earth are you talking about? Americans registering their moves? That is not a thing.

Do you not put down a forwarding address with the post office? Do you get a new drivers license? Do you re-register to vote?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My coworker is from Shanghai and still has family there. She explained and said that people who are originally registered to live in Shanghai are getting supplies normally but those who have moved to the city from other places are lower on the priority list. The latter are facing shortages.

This makes sense. You can’t just live wherever you want to in china. Similar to the USSR, you have to have permission to move and settle somewhere. You have to officially register.

You have to register your move in most of Europe, too. Just don't need permission to do it. Dont make more of that than it is. Americans register their moves, they just don['t call it that because the registery is decentralized.

What on earth are you talking about? Americans registering their moves? That is not a thing.

Do you not put down a forwarding address with the post office? Do you get a new drivers license? Do you re-register to vote?

NP. None of that is required.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The food deliveries are being done by the military. Sustenance only. Not enough given out. Rationing hard.
The people were told to stock up months ago but most didn't because 1- they eat fresh vegetables daily and that doesn't keep long, 2- no shops open, no money made, 3- they thought the government was lying until they really were locked down. The people didn't think it would happen again because they were told it wouldn't.
Now you all know why those people here were whispering about prepping. You need to have food you like before you can't find it. Especially water and anything oats, wheat, meat. Pet food. Stock up hard on that. We may get food baskets but you need to have what you need just in case.
Don't ever think it won't happen here. Currently food riots in Sri Lanka, Peru, some Asian countries, Africa. The Africa food shortages are not just the poor, it's affecting everyone even the ones with money. I have a friend that works the oilfields in Africa. They aren't allowed to leave the compound they live in. He said people stand outside the gates begging for food and money. He has no reason to lie.
Don't listen to me. Wait it out and see. I'd rather have food than not. We prepped/are prepped. I think we have enough for 6 months and some we can share.
The prices alone should give you reason to stock up. Once it goes up it rarely goes down.
Do you really want to see a Black Friday scenario to buy food ?
I just know this, we'd rather prepare than not prepare.

I hope you're well armed because there are more guns that people here and armed parents will not watch their children starve