People starving and going insane in Shanghai

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn't this what non-selfish people do who care about others? That's what people here would love to have us do, to show that we really care a lot.

you are an a$$ hat

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s horrendous. I’m a a liberal person of Asian heritage. I don’t know why so many dc families are excited about their kids learning Chinese. It’s an absolutely authoritarian society. I was equally appalled in college and after college when some of my democratic socialist friends praised China and also Cuba and Venezuela. They claim the info we get here is all skewed. Well they kill and torture journalists in those countries and imprison people for speaking out against the government.

The social credit score thing isn’t real, I do know that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My friend has lived in Shanghai teaching English for over a decade. He has been getting food and grocery deliveries, including yesterday. Don’t believe everything you read.

Sure, sure. Everything is fine:

I talked to him just yesterday. He has no reason to lie to me. He is getting grocery delivery in Shanghai. Grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My friend has lived in Shanghai teaching English for over a decade. He has been getting food and grocery deliveries, including yesterday. Don’t believe everything you read.

Sure, sure. Everything is fine:

I talked to him just yesterday. He has no reason to lie to me. He is getting grocery delivery in Shanghai. Grow up.

You understand what an anecdote is right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My coworker is from Shanghai and still has family there. She explained and said that people who are originally registered to live in Shanghai are getting supplies normally but those who have moved to the city from other places are lower on the priority list. The latter are facing shortages.

This makes sense. You can’t just live wherever you want to in china. Similar to the USSR, you have to have permission to move and settle somewhere. You have to officially register.

+1 yes, and your application for application needs to be approved, which is not always the case. Especially in populated cities it is very difficult for people to get a residency permit, or “Hu Kou”. Many people live in these large cities, Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou, on the edge of the community.

You sound awfully cool with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s horrendous. I’m a a liberal person of Asian heritage. I don’t know why so many dc families are excited about their kids learning Chinese. It’s an absolutely authoritarian society. I was equally appalled in college and after college when some of my democratic socialist friends praised China and also Cuba and Venezuela. They claim the info we get here is all skewed. Well they kill and torture journalists in those countries and imprison people for speaking out against the government.

The social credit score thing isn’t real, I do know that.

Not publicly acknowledged or not real? I suppose Chinese orphanages aren't real either

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s horrendous. I’m a a liberal person of Asian heritage. I don’t know why so many dc families are excited about their kids learning Chinese. It’s an absolutely authoritarian society. I was equally appalled in college and after college when some of my democratic socialist friends praised China and also Cuba and Venezuela. They claim the info we get here is all skewed. Well they kill and torture journalists in those countries and imprison people for speaking out against the government.

The social credit score thing isn’t real, I do know that.

It is real. I’m sure there have been exaggerations but the core of that story is true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My friend has lived in Shanghai teaching English for over a decade. He has been getting food and grocery deliveries, including yesterday. Don’t believe everything you read.

Sure, sure. Everything is fine:

I talked to him just yesterday. He has no reason to lie to me. He is getting grocery delivery in Shanghai. Grow up.

No reason other than the state monitoring communications and controlling the media.

And it's no secret that in authoritarian societies there are haves and have nots. If your friend happens to be a foreign national it's in China's interest to make sure he's fed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My friend has lived in Shanghai teaching English for over a decade. He has been getting food and grocery deliveries, including yesterday. Don’t believe everything you read.

Sure, sure. Everything is fine:

I talked to him just yesterday. He has no reason to lie to me. He is getting grocery delivery in Shanghai. Grow up.

Yep- I’m sure his experiences are completely identical to the average poor local resident. Definitely no chance that the CCP would prioritize food deliveries for a (at least relatively) wealthy westerner.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Was browsing Reddit and this video made the front page. It is absolutely terrifying:

https://v.redd.it/8yh42x9n3ls81

That's the sound of a city of 20 million people being forced to lockdown due to the govt's mandate for zero COVID. The lockdown was put in place suddenly, so people didn't have time to prepare. Many are running out of food, and they cannot even step one foot outside of their apartment doors. There is no food deliver, and everything is shutdown, so they couldn't even buy food if they wanted to. Some people even said authorities were flying drones with speakers warning people not to open their balcony doors and that they should not sing while standing outside:

I can't believe this country is supposed to take over the world. This is some terrifying dystopian stuff and what happens when a govt gets too much power over people's lives. I guess imprisoning and starving people is better than COVID. The trucker convoy really needs to go to Shanghai, not DC.

I mean, I pretty casually watch the news and I have understood that China is a pretty freaky dystopian state for many years now. The only people who can actually change that are the Chinese themselves.

Casual Chinese news watchers would probably think there's a lot of dystopian stuff going on here too.

No, it’s a communist country. This is what happens. They all want to come here.

[Anonymous]

What is the end goal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was browsing Reddit and this video made the front page. It is absolutely terrifying:

https://v.redd.it/8yh42x9n3ls81

That's the sound of a city of 20 million people being forced to lockdown due to the govt's mandate for zero COVID. The lockdown was put in place suddenly, so people didn't have time to prepare. Many are running out of food, and they cannot even step one foot outside of their apartment doors. There is no food deliver, and everything is shutdown, so they couldn't even buy food if they wanted to. Some people even said authorities were flying drones with speakers warning people not to open their balcony doors and that they should not sing while standing outside:

I can't believe this country is supposed to take over the world. This is some terrifying dystopian stuff and what happens when a govt gets too much power over people's lives. I guess imprisoning and starving people is better than COVID. The trucker convoy really needs to go to Shanghai, not DC.

I mean, I pretty casually watch the news and I have understood that China is a pretty freaky dystopian state for many years now. The only people who can actually change that are the Chinese themselves.

Casual Chinese news watchers would probably think there's a lot of dystopian stuff going on here too.

No, it’s a communist country. This is what happens. They all want to come here.

There is no such thing as a communist country.

[Anonymous]

Their vaccine is completely ineffective against Omicron and their elderly population had very poor uptake due to distrust of the medical system. They’re looking at 5 million+ deaths if COVID gets loose.

No good choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Scary, do we maybe not understand the whole picture being from another culture?

Have you lost your mind completely? In which vaunted “culture” is this acceptable?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s horrendous. I’m a a liberal person of Asian heritage. I don’t know why so many dc families are excited about their kids learning Chinese. It’s an absolutely authoritarian society. I was equally appalled in college and after college when some of my democratic socialist friends praised China and also Cuba and Venezuela. They claim the info we get here is all skewed. Well they kill and torture journalists in those countries and imprison people for speaking out against the government.

+1000.