latest updates on Woodward

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any reason why are people assuming that DCC students will be rezoned only to Woodward, and not to WJ as well? They are going to try to reduce disparities in FARMS rates between neighboring schools as well as they reasonably can, right?

The idea is that they are trying to take students out of WJ, not add them.

Toll Brothers Amalyn development is going to bring a high number of new students to WJ cluster. They have an ES reservation in the site plan.

[Anonymous]

Let us not forget White Flint …

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let us not forget White Flint …

You mean "North Bethesda?" If I were a betting person, I would put money on them going to Woodward based on current feeder patterns. But you are right, who knows.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any reason why are people assuming that DCC students will be rezoned only to Woodward, and not to WJ as well? They are going to try to reduce disparities in FARMS rates between neighboring schools as well as they reasonably can, right?

The idea is that they are trying to take students out of WJ, not add them.

Toll Brothers Amalyn development is going to bring a high number of new students to WJ cluster. They have an ES reservation in the site plan.

This looks so nice! And walking distance to WJ!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any reason why are people assuming that DCC students will be rezoned only to Woodward, and not to WJ as well? They are going to try to reduce disparities in FARMS rates between neighboring schools as well as they reasonably can, right?

This doesn't make sense as it would be a terrible commute for DCC. It makes more sense to pull from BCC, WJ, and and some of the other local W schools, and maybe parts of Einstein. I don't want my kids making that commute.

There are feeders to Einstein and Wheaton that are not a terrible commute to Woodward (Oakland Terrace and Viers Mill in particular). And the bottom line is Einstein is very overcrowded, so some of those kids will have to be sent to Woodward. I love the Bethesda parents on here who act like everything is based on their whims. No, WJ is not the only consideration here, and you can bet your bottom dollar that the BOE is not going to just ignore the DCC because that is not a good look for equity considerations. There is no chance they tell the lower income families down county that their kids have to stay in overcrowded schools with portable trailers so that the Bethesda snowflakes have enough space and can all maintain their little bubble. Give me a break.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any reason why are people assuming that DCC students will be rezoned only to Woodward, and not to WJ as well? They are going to try to reduce disparities in FARMS rates between neighboring schools as well as they reasonably can, right?

This doesn't make sense as it would be a terrible commute for DCC. It makes more sense to pull from BCC, WJ, and and some of the other local W schools, and maybe parts of Einstein. I don't want my kids making that commute.

There are feeders to Einstein and Wheaton that are not a terrible commute to Woodward (Oakland Terrace and Viers Mill in particular). And the bottom line is Einstein is very overcrowded, so some of those kids will have to be sent to Woodward. I love the Bethesda parents on here who act like everything is based on their whims. No, WJ is not the only consideration here, and you can bet your bottom dollar that the BOE is not going to just ignore the DCC because that is not a good look for equity considerations. There is no chance they tell the lower income families down county that their kids have to stay in overcrowded schools with portable trailers so that the Bethesda snowflakes have enough space and can all maintain their little bubble. Give me a break.

I don’t think any Bethesda parents are saying that. I’ve never heard WJ parents say things like this. They understand DCC schools will be included in the boundary study. And the PP seems to be from the DCC.

But I think its fair to say that no one will be 100% happy when they do the boundary study (are they ever?). Thankfully, we are getting a brand new school to alleviate the overcrowding and hopefully provide a performing arts center of excellence. We are very fortunate, aren’t we?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any reason why are people assuming that DCC students will be rezoned only to Woodward, and not to WJ as well? They are going to try to reduce disparities in FARMS rates between neighboring schools as well as they reasonably can, right?

This doesn't make sense as it would be a terrible commute for DCC. It makes more sense to pull from BCC, WJ, and and some of the other local W schools, and maybe parts of Einstein. I don't want my kids making that commute.

There are feeders to Einstein and Wheaton that are not a terrible commute to Woodward (Oakland Terrace and Viers Mill in particular). And the bottom line is Einstein is very overcrowded, so some of those kids will have to be sent to Woodward. I love the Bethesda parents on here who act like everything is based on their whims. No, WJ is not the only consideration here, and you can bet your bottom dollar that the BOE is not going to just ignore the DCC because that is not a good look for equity considerations. There is no chance they tell the lower income families down county that their kids have to stay in overcrowded schools with portable trailers so that the Bethesda snowflakes have enough space and can all maintain their little bubble. Give me a break.

I don’t think any Bethesda parents are saying that. I’ve never heard WJ parents say things like this. They understand DCC schools will be included in the boundary study. And the PP seems to be from the DCC.

But I think its fair to say that no one will be 100% happy when they do the boundary study (are they ever?). Thankfully, we are getting a brand new school to alleviate the overcrowding and hopefully provide a performing arts center of excellence. We are very fortunate, aren’t we?

I mean, you can just read the previous page of the thread to see the people who are saying that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any reason why are people assuming that DCC students will be rezoned only to Woodward, and not to WJ as well? They are going to try to reduce disparities in FARMS rates between neighboring schools as well as they reasonably can, right?

This doesn't make sense as it would be a terrible commute for DCC. It makes more sense to pull from BCC, WJ, and and some of the other local W schools, and maybe parts of Einstein. I don't want my kids making that commute.

There are feeders to Einstein and Wheaton that are not a terrible commute to Woodward (Oakland Terrace and Viers Mill in particular). And the bottom line is Einstein is very overcrowded, so some of those kids will have to be sent to Woodward. I love the Bethesda parents on here who act like everything is based on their whims. No, WJ is not the only consideration here, and you can bet your bottom dollar that the BOE is not going to just ignore the DCC because that is not a good look for equity considerations. There is no chance they tell the lower income families down county that their kids have to stay in overcrowded schools with portable trailers so that the Bethesda snowflakes have enough space and can all maintain their little bubble. Give me a break.

I don’t think any Bethesda parents are saying that. I’ve never heard WJ parents say things like this. They understand DCC schools will be included in the boundary study. And the PP seems to be from the DCC.

But I think its fair to say that no one will be 100% happy when they do the boundary study (are they ever?). Thankfully, we are getting a brand new school to alleviate the overcrowding and hopefully provide a performing arts center of excellence. We are very fortunate, aren’t we?

I mean, you can just read the previous page of the thread to see the people who are saying that.

I’m not sure who you are arguing with but I’ve read the thread and can assure you that they don’t exist.

Nobody is trying to deny DCC schools anything and surely the BOE will ultimately decide. There are however a lot of people are asking legitimate questions about how this is all going to work given basic constraints.

WJ is currently 2,800 and over capacity of 2,300.
Woodward will have capacity of 2,160 with about 500 seats reserved for magnet students.
North Bethesda MS is 1,000.
Tilden MS is 1,400.

So as a first order of business, if Woodard is in a cluster with Tilden MS and a performing arts magnet, it will open effectively at full capacity. WJ on the other hand will have probably 1,000 seats available but as people are pointing out, there is a question of how many of these seats would essentially be reserved to accommodate a huge amount of permitted development at Strathmore, WMAL towers, White Flint Mall, etc. Not to mention the fact that this specific area of North Bethesda is targeted by the county for more high density development as part of its Thrive plan. How many seats will need to be reserved? I guess the demographers will tell us. In the end, there will probably not be enough capacity to accommodate half of Rock View ES.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any reason why are people assuming that DCC students will be rezoned only to Woodward, and not to WJ as well? They are going to try to reduce disparities in FARMS rates between neighboring schools as well as they reasonably can, right?

This doesn't make sense as it would be a terrible commute for DCC. It makes more sense to pull from BCC, WJ, and and some of the other local W schools, and maybe parts of Einstein. I don't want my kids making that commute.

There are feeders to Einstein and Wheaton that are not a terrible commute to Woodward (Oakland Terrace and Viers Mill in particular). And the bottom line is Einstein is very overcrowded, so some of those kids will have to be sent to Woodward. I love the Bethesda parents on here who act like everything is based on their whims. No, WJ is not the only consideration here, and you can bet your bottom dollar that the BOE is not going to just ignore the DCC because that is not a good look for equity considerations. There is no chance they tell the lower income families down county that their kids have to stay in overcrowded schools with portable trailers so that the Bethesda snowflakes have enough space and can all maintain their little bubble. Give me a break.

As a OTES parent, the commute would be terrible. Einstein, Wheaton, and Northwood are much closer. It makes no sense.

They need to open an additional DCC high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any reason why are people assuming that DCC students will be rezoned only to Woodward, and not to WJ as well? They are going to try to reduce disparities in FARMS rates between neighboring schools as well as they reasonably can, right?

This doesn't make sense as it would be a terrible commute for DCC. It makes more sense to pull from BCC, WJ, and and some of the other local W schools, and maybe parts of Einstein. I don't want my kids making that commute.

There are feeders to Einstein and Wheaton that are not a terrible commute to Woodward (Oakland Terrace and Viers Mill in particular). And the bottom line is Einstein is very overcrowded, so some of those kids will have to be sent to Woodward. I love the Bethesda parents on here who act like everything is based on their whims. No, WJ is not the only consideration here, and you can bet your bottom dollar that the BOE is not going to just ignore the DCC because that is not a good look for equity considerations. There is no chance they tell the lower income families down county that their kids have to stay in overcrowded schools with portable trailers so that the Bethesda snowflakes have enough space and can all maintain their little bubble. Give me a break.

As a OTES parent, the commute would be terrible. Einstein, Wheaton, and Northwood are much closer. It makes no sense.

They need to open an additional DCC high school.

Well, that would be nice, but where is the plot of land big enough?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any reason why are people assuming that DCC students will be rezoned only to Woodward, and not to WJ as well? They are going to try to reduce disparities in FARMS rates between neighboring schools as well as they reasonably can, right?

This doesn't make sense as it would be a terrible commute for DCC. It makes more sense to pull from BCC, WJ, and and some of the other local W schools, and maybe parts of Einstein. I don't want my kids making that commute.

There are feeders to Einstein and Wheaton that are not a terrible commute to Woodward (Oakland Terrace and Viers Mill in particular). And the bottom line is Einstein is very overcrowded, so some of those kids will have to be sent to Woodward. I love the Bethesda parents on here who act like everything is based on their whims. No, WJ is not the only consideration here, and you can bet your bottom dollar that the BOE is not going to just ignore the DCC because that is not a good look for equity considerations. There is no chance they tell the lower income families down county that their kids have to stay in overcrowded schools with portable trailers so that the Bethesda snowflakes have enough space and can all maintain their little bubble. Give me a break.

As a OTES parent, the commute would be terrible. Einstein, Wheaton, and Northwood are much closer. It makes no sense.

They need to open an additional DCC high school.

Well, that would be nice, but where is the plot of land big enough?

There was a site in downtown Silver Spring big enough vacated by the Planning Board but it was given away to a developer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any reason why are people assuming that DCC students will be rezoned only to Woodward, and not to WJ as well? They are going to try to reduce disparities in FARMS rates between neighboring schools as well as they reasonably can, right?

This doesn't make sense as it would be a terrible commute for DCC. It makes more sense to pull from BCC, WJ, and and some of the other local W schools, and maybe parts of Einstein. I don't want my kids making that commute.

There are feeders to Einstein and Wheaton that are not a terrible commute to Woodward (Oakland Terrace and Viers Mill in particular). And the bottom line is Einstein is very overcrowded, so some of those kids will have to be sent to Woodward. I love the Bethesda parents on here who act like everything is based on their whims. No, WJ is not the only consideration here, and you can bet your bottom dollar that the BOE is not going to just ignore the DCC because that is not a good look for equity considerations. There is no chance they tell the lower income families down county that their kids have to stay in overcrowded schools with portable trailers so that the Bethesda snowflakes have enough space and can all maintain their little bubble. Give me a break.

I don’t think any Bethesda parents are saying that. I’ve never heard WJ parents say things like this. They understand DCC schools will be included in the boundary study. And the PP seems to be from the DCC.

But I think its fair to say that no one will be 100% happy when they do the boundary study (are they ever?). Thankfully, we are getting a brand new school to alleviate the overcrowding and hopefully provide a performing arts center of excellence. We are very fortunate, aren’t we?

I mean, you can just read the previous page of the thread to see the people who are saying that.

I’m not sure who you are arguing with but I’ve read the thread and can assure you that they don’t exist.

Nobody is trying to deny DCC schools anything and surely the BOE will ultimately decide. There are however a lot of people are asking legitimate questions about how this is all going to work given basic constraints.

WJ is currently 2,800 and over capacity of 2,300.
Woodward will have capacity of 2,160 with about 500 seats reserved for magnet students.
North Bethesda MS is 1,000.
Tilden MS is 1,400.

So as a first order of business, if Woodard is in a cluster with Tilden MS and a performing arts magnet, it will open effectively at full capacity. WJ on the other hand will have probably 1,000 seats available but as people are pointing out, there is a question of how many of these seats would essentially be reserved to accommodate a huge amount of permitted development at Strathmore, WMAL towers, White Flint Mall, etc. Not to mention the fact that this specific area of North Bethesda is targeted by the county for more high density development as part of its Thrive plan. How many seats will need to be reserved? I guess the demographers will tell us. In the end, there will probably not be enough capacity to accommodate half of Rock View ES.

DP. I'm sorry, but MCPS's "first order of business" is to relieve overcrowding at both WJ and the DCC high schools. That needs to take place before any seats are "reserved for magnet students."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any reason why are people assuming that DCC students will be rezoned only to Woodward, and not to WJ as well? They are going to try to reduce disparities in FARMS rates between neighboring schools as well as they reasonably can, right?

This doesn't make sense as it would be a terrible commute for DCC. It makes more sense to pull from BCC, WJ, and and some of the other local W schools, and maybe parts of Einstein. I don't want my kids making that commute.

There are feeders to Einstein and Wheaton that are not a terrible commute to Woodward (Oakland Terrace and Viers Mill in particular). And the bottom line is Einstein is very overcrowded, so some of those kids will have to be sent to Woodward. I love the Bethesda parents on here who act like everything is based on their whims. No, WJ is not the only consideration here, and you can bet your bottom dollar that the BOE is not going to just ignore the DCC because that is not a good look for equity considerations. There is no chance they tell the lower income families down county that their kids have to stay in overcrowded schools with portable trailers so that the Bethesda snowflakes have enough space and can all maintain their little bubble. Give me a break.

As a OTES parent, the commute would be terrible. Einstein, Wheaton, and Northwood are much closer. It makes no sense.

They need to open an additional DCC high school.

Well, that would be nice, but where is the plot of land big enough?

There was a site in downtown Silver Spring big enough vacated by the Planning Board but it was given away to a developer.

There is also the Adventist Hospital site in Takoma Park. The more one looks the more land seems to be available. It’s just a question of will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any reason why are people assuming that DCC students will be rezoned only to Woodward, and not to WJ as well? They are going to try to reduce disparities in FARMS rates between neighboring schools as well as they reasonably can, right?

This doesn't make sense as it would be a terrible commute for DCC. It makes more sense to pull from BCC, WJ, and and some of the other local W schools, and maybe parts of Einstein. I don't want my kids making that commute.

There are feeders to Einstein and Wheaton that are not a terrible commute to Woodward (Oakland Terrace and Viers Mill in particular). And the bottom line is Einstein is very overcrowded, so some of those kids will have to be sent to Woodward. I love the Bethesda parents on here who act like everything is based on their whims. No, WJ is not the only consideration here, and you can bet your bottom dollar that the BOE is not going to just ignore the DCC because that is not a good look for equity considerations. There is no chance they tell the lower income families down county that their kids have to stay in overcrowded schools with portable trailers so that the Bethesda snowflakes have enough space and can all maintain their little bubble. Give me a break.

As a OTES parent, the commute would be terrible. Einstein, Wheaton, and Northwood are much closer. It makes no sense.

They need to open an additional DCC high school.

Well, that would be nice, but where is the plot of land big enough?

There was a site in downtown Silver Spring big enough vacated by the Planning Board but it was given away to a developer.

There is also the Adventist Hospital site in Takoma Park. The more one looks the more land seems to be available. It’s just a question of will.

Who's going to pay for it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any reason why are people assuming that DCC students will be rezoned only to Woodward, and not to WJ as well? They are going to try to reduce disparities in FARMS rates between neighboring schools as well as they reasonably can, right?

This doesn't make sense as it would be a terrible commute for DCC. It makes more sense to pull from BCC, WJ, and and some of the other local W schools, and maybe parts of Einstein. I don't want my kids making that commute.

There are feeders to Einstein and Wheaton that are not a terrible commute to Woodward (Oakland Terrace and Viers Mill in particular). And the bottom line is Einstein is very overcrowded, so some of those kids will have to be sent to Woodward. I love the Bethesda parents on here who act like everything is based on their whims. No, WJ is not the only consideration here, and you can bet your bottom dollar that the BOE is not going to just ignore the DCC because that is not a good look for equity considerations. There is no chance they tell the lower income families down county that their kids have to stay in overcrowded schools with portable trailers so that the Bethesda snowflakes have enough space and can all maintain their little bubble. Give me a break.

I don’t think any Bethesda parents are saying that. I’ve never heard WJ parents say things like this. They understand DCC schools will be included in the boundary study. And the PP seems to be from the DCC.

But I think its fair to say that no one will be 100% happy when they do the boundary study (are they ever?). Thankfully, we are getting a brand new school to alleviate the overcrowding and hopefully provide a performing arts center of excellence. We are very fortunate, aren’t we?

I mean, you can just read the previous page of the thread to see the people who are saying that.

I’m not sure who you are arguing with but I’ve read the thread and can assure you that they don’t exist.

Nobody is trying to deny DCC schools anything and surely the BOE will ultimately decide. There are however a lot of people are asking legitimate questions about how this is all going to work given basic constraints.

WJ is currently 2,800 and over capacity of 2,300.
Woodward will have capacity of 2,160 with about 500 seats reserved for magnet students.
North Bethesda MS is 1,000.
Tilden MS is 1,400.

So as a first order of business, if Woodard is in a cluster with Tilden MS and a performing arts magnet, it will open effectively at full capacity. WJ on the other hand will have probably 1,000 seats available but as people are pointing out, there is a question of how many of these seats would essentially be reserved to accommodate a huge amount of permitted development at Strathmore, WMAL towers, White Flint Mall, etc. Not to mention the fact that this specific area of North Bethesda is targeted by the county for more high density development as part of its Thrive plan. How many seats will need to be reserved? I guess the demographers will tell us. In the end, there will probably not be enough capacity to accommodate half of Rock View ES.

DP. I'm sorry, but MCPS's "first order of business" is to relieve overcrowding at both WJ and the DCC high schools. That needs to take place before any seats are "reserved for magnet students."

You should take that up with MCPS. They are the ones who decided to put a performing arts magnet there. They’ve already paid for the plans and architectural renderings. Maybe you should have been engaged with the BOE during the early planning stage 5 years ago when they made these decisions because you seem very opinionated about it.