Youngkin & Miyares state they will challenge federal vaccine mandate for hospital workers
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Anonymous
You are definitely fcked in the head. Is this a new thing? Or were you already fcked in the head before the pandemic? https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2022/01/no-omicron-immunity-without-booster-study-finds/ |
Anonymous
Why don't you try reading the abundance of studies on hundreds of thousands of people from multiple countries regarding how effective the booster is against omicron instead cherry picking one study of 70 people which is missing a lot of data, such as how long ago those people were boosted and any follow up testing. Most studies are showing you maybe get 10 weeks of protection with the booster, then it is about 30% effective at most against omicron. Given the number of people double vaxed with a booster and still getting omicron, just empirical data alone should be obvious this is the case. Doesn't mean it does nothing, such as prevention from more serious illness, but the current vaxes and boosters are not a significant preventatives for omicron. |
Anonymous
There are so many levels of stupid in both of these posts, but neither poster is willing to consider facts that would undermine their preferred worldview. |
Anonymous
Something >>>>>> nothing And when you get to the scale of millions of infections with a crazy contagious strain like omicron, anything that can help lower hospitalization #s helps our whole community. |
Anonymous
| There is no vaccine which prevent Omicron. |
Anonymous
Vaccines don’t “prevent”. They minimize the # of severe infections. |
Anonymous
Vaccines have always been a game of odds, they are not 100% foolproof cures. Sad that you don't understand basic science. |
Anonymous
This. The vaccines are useful, mandates are not. |
Anonymous
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Good news. Although I think they’ll lose the argument ultimately in the courts.
But the fact that the vaccines here primarily lower severity and only have a marginal impact on transmission really isn’t particularly important for the justification that you are protecting patients and other employees. There’s a cost that has to be weighed against in protecting against a disease of this risk profile, namely losing valuable employees. |
Anonymous
DP but the science is relatively well understood at this point regarding the current vaccines. They are relatively low performing at limiting infection and symptomatic disease. They are to date moderately effective at preventing severe disease. United has 3,000 people out this single week alone in a company with a vaccine mandate. |
Anonymous
How many are on a respirator? |
Anonymous
Of course they are useful. They lower the chance of serious infections - which are very costly to businesses - longer absences and higher medical costs. |
Anonymous
Timely article. https://www.axios.com/united-airlines-ceo-covid-vaccine-mandate-c33cebde-faee-45ef-b1da-0ebdb337b09e.html United Airlines: Employee deaths dropped to zero after vaccine mandate "Kirby said that prior to the vaccine mandate, "tragically, more than one United employee on average *per week* was dying from COVID,” but "we’ve now gone eight straight weeks with zero COVID-related deaths among our vaccinated employees." He said in the letter that there are approximately 3,000 employees who have tested positive for the virus but added that no vaccinated employee is hospitalized." This is a no brainer way for businesses to bring down healthcare costs. And help with staffing issues (shorter absences). And, you know, keep your employees alive. |
Anonymous
Oh, so now we need public Covid vaccine mandates so that businesses can make sure their workers are not absent. What kind of argument is that? Not in the public’s best interest, but we need mandates because it is in the business owners’ best interest. Good luck pushing that argument, but at least you are being honest about our intentions with these vaccine mandates. |
Anonymous
+1 million |