Masking (kn95/n95)

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Anonymous wrote:Good luck in finding the childsize anywhere near the volume that would be needed.

And good luck getting kids to comply with using them.

oh we have them. I just want more of the classmates to have them. Most are still in cloth masks.

Focus on your own kids and their masks. Please let other parents manage their own child.

This. I’m fine with my kids in cloth masks. You do what works for you and let other parents do what works for them. TYVM

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But your choices impact my kids. As well as all the kids in the school. There's enough data out there showing cloth masks aren't very good at protection from omicron (see Leana Wen's most recent op-ed)

Oh quit it with that nonsense. Lots of choices that other families make affect your kids. Do you complain when kids eat breakfast in the classroom? They are eating unmasked and that affects your kid way more than my kid in a 3-layer cloth mask.

If you are THAT concerned about your kid catching Covid (which is fine, do what works for you), then you should have chosen virtual academy.

Or is this just about how you want to be able to control everything that everyone else does?

Our kids eat outside. They have the choice and we signed up early on. The breakfast kids eat in the cafeteria, not in class. Virtual academy doesn't work for our family for many reasons.

No, its not that I want to control everything. Its that I'd like the school not to close if we can do something more. Also, I have a parent with cancer that I care for regularly and would rather not infect him.

Well since your kids eat outside and not with the poors who get the free breakfast, and they’re wearing your high quality masks the rest of the time, they should be good right? If all that is not good enough for you then you should have chosen VA (which you would have been accepted for due to the cancer parent). We can’t have everything we want right now, you either accept the risk with in person (which sounds pretty minimal for your kids) or the drawbacks of virtual.

+1 million

Was thinking the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Putting kn95 masks on little kids for 6-7 hours a day is cruel

Agreed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You all are exhausting. Shots and masks are no longer going to stop this.

So true.

Learn to live with it. Accept some risk. Do what works for you and your family.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck in finding the childsize anywhere near the volume that would be needed.

And good luck getting kids to comply with using them.

oh we have them. I just want more of the classmates to have them. Most are still in cloth masks.

Focus on your own kids and their masks. Please let other parents manage their own child.

This. I’m fine with my kids in cloth masks. You do what works for you and let other parents do what works for them. TYVM

except your kid in the cloth mask contributes to spread
https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1478867026542219264/photo/1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Putting kn95 masks on little kids for 6-7 hours a day is cruel

Agreed.

So is long covid, but whatevs.

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Anonymous wrote:Good luck in finding the childsize anywhere near the volume that would be needed.

And good luck getting kids to comply with using them.

oh we have them. I just want more of the classmates to have them. Most are still in cloth masks.

Focus on your own kids and their masks. Please let other parents manage their own child.

This. I’m fine with my kids in cloth masks. You do what works for you and let other parents do what works for them. TYVM

Oy
But your choices impact my kids. As well as all the kids in the school. There's enough data out there showing cloth masks aren't very good at protection from omicron (see Leana Wen's most recent op-ed)

Oh quit it with that nonsense. Lots of choices that other families make affect your kids. Do you complain when kids eat breakfast in the classroom? They are eating unmasked and that affects your kid way more than my kid in a 3-layer cloth mask.

If you are THAT concerned about your kid catching Covid (which is fine, do what works for you), then you should have chosen virtual academy.

Or is this just about how you want to be able to control everything that everyone else does?

Our kids eat outside. They have the choice and we signed up early on. The breakfast kids eat in the cafeteria, not in class. Virtual academy doesn't work for our family for many reasons.

No, its not that I want to control everything. Its that I'd like the school not to close if we can do something more. Also, I have a parent with cancer that I care for regularly and would rather not infect him.

Well since your kids eat outside and not with the poors who get the free breakfast, and they’re wearing your high quality masks the rest of the time, they should be good right? If all that is not good enough for you then you should have chosen VA (which you would have been accepted for due to the cancer parent). We can’t have everything we want right now, you either accept the risk with in person (which sounds pretty minimal for your kids) or the drawbacks of virtual.

How do I explain this clearly?
Low grade masks don't work well.
Transmission is very high in Moco.
Many of us want our kids to continue in school - the best way to do that is to keep teachers and kids safe.
I am not worried about my kids getting covid, personally. They are vaxxed, low risk, and like most of us in this country, have access to reasonably decent health care if they do get it. They will be fine. I don't want my kids, their classmates, or their teachers to get it because it will close down the school. Schools closed for months at a time is far worse than my child getting covid.

What you are seeing still is the community spread, not school spread. Start by putting the community in N95 masks. Why it’s ok for shoppers, restaurant goers and essentials to be in surgical and cloth, but force elementary school kids into KN95.

Ya'll do realize that the school is part of the community, right? And yes, everyone in MoCo should be in Kn95s

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting kn95 masks on little kids for 6-7 hours a day is cruel

Agreed.

So is long covid, but whatevs.

Long Covid might or might not even be a thing.

So, yeah, whatevs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting kn95 masks on little kids for 6-7 hours a day is cruel

Agreed.

So is long covid, but whatevs.

Long Covid might or might not even be a thing.

So, yeah, whatevs.

Yeah? Give it some time

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck in finding the childsize anywhere near the volume that would be needed.

And good luck getting kids to comply with using them.

oh we have them. I just want more of the classmates to have them. Most are still in cloth masks.

Focus on your own kids and their masks. Please let other parents manage their own child.

This. I’m fine with my kids in cloth masks. You do what works for you and let other parents do what works for them. TYVM

except your kid in the cloth mask contributes to spread
https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1478867026542219264/photo/1

Okay. Would you prefer he go maskless then? I’m fine with that. If it makes no difference, let’s drop the charade of mask mandates.

I’m fine keeping him in a cloth mask, but I’m also fine without letting him go without it. Whatever you prefer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck in finding the childsize anywhere near the volume that would be needed.

And good luck getting kids to comply with using them.

oh we have them. I just want more of the classmates to have them. Most are still in cloth masks.

Focus on your own kids and their masks. Please let other parents manage their own child.

This. I’m fine with my kids in cloth masks. You do what works for you and let other parents do what works for them. TYVM

Oy
But your choices impact my kids. As well as all the kids in the school. There's enough data out there showing cloth masks aren't very good at protection from omicron (see Leana Wen's most recent op-ed)

Oh quit it with that nonsense. Lots of choices that other families make affect your kids. Do you complain when kids eat breakfast in the classroom? They are eating unmasked and that affects your kid way more than my kid in a 3-layer cloth mask.

If you are THAT concerned about your kid catching Covid (which is fine, do what works for you), then you should have chosen virtual academy.

Or is this just about how you want to be able to control everything that everyone else does?

Our kids eat outside. They have the choice and we signed up early on. The breakfast kids eat in the cafeteria, not in class. Virtual academy doesn't work for our family for many reasons.

No, its not that I want to control everything. Its that I'd like the school not to close if we can do something more. Also, I have a parent with cancer that I care for regularly and would rather not infect him.

Well since your kids eat outside and not with the poors who get the free breakfast, and they’re wearing your high quality masks the rest of the time, they should be good right? If all that is not good enough for you then you should have chosen VA (which you would have been accepted for due to the cancer parent). We can’t have everything we want right now, you either accept the risk with in person (which sounds pretty minimal for your kids) or the drawbacks of virtual.

How do I explain this clearly?
Low grade masks don't work well.
Transmission is very high in Moco.
Many of us want our kids to continue in school - the best way to do that is to keep teachers and kids safe.
I am not worried about my kids getting covid, personally. They are vaxxed, low risk, and like most of us in this country, have access to reasonably decent health care if they do get it. They will be fine. I don't want my kids, their classmates, or their teachers to get it because it will close down the school. Schools closed for months at a time is far worse than my child getting covid.

What you are seeing still is the community spread, not school spread. Start by putting the community in N95 masks. Why it’s ok for shoppers, restaurant goers and essentials to be in surgical and cloth, but force elementary school kids into KN95.

Ya'll do realize that the school is part of the community, right? And yes, everyone in MoCo should be in Kn95s

Would you accept KN-94s? They are actually designed for widespread use by the public and are more comfy for prolonged wear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck in finding the childsize anywhere near the volume that would be needed.

And good luck getting kids to comply with using them.

oh we have them. I just want more of the classmates to have them. Most are still in cloth masks.

Focus on your own kids and their masks. Please let other parents manage their own child.

This. I’m fine with my kids in cloth masks. You do what works for you and let other parents do what works for them. TYVM

except your kid in the cloth mask contributes to spread
https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1478867026542219264/photo/1

Okay. Would you prefer he go maskless then? I’m fine with that. If it makes no difference, let’s drop the charade of mask mandates.

I’m fine keeping him in a cloth mask, but I’m also fine without letting him go without it. Whatever you prefer.

I prefer Kn95s or other high filtration masks. Not sure where maskless came from in the conversation. Cloth masks are just not good enough in this era. sorry masking is the hardest thing your family has ever had to do

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting kn95 masks on little kids for 6-7 hours a day is cruel

Agreed.

So is long covid, but whatevs.

Long Covid might or might not even be a thing.

So, yeah, whatevs.

Yeah? Give it some time

I guess you feel the same about vaccine mandates then?

The Pifzer study for kids is ongoing for 24 months since it started. Long term effects might or might not be a thing, right? We’ll know in about 18 more months.

Definitely no vaccine mandates for kids until we have more data. Just like we need more data on long covid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck in finding the childsize anywhere near the volume that would be needed.

And good luck getting kids to comply with using them.

oh we have them. I just want more of the classmates to have them. Most are still in cloth masks.

Focus on your own kids and their masks. Please let other parents manage their own child.

This. I’m fine with my kids in cloth masks. You do what works for you and let other parents do what works for them. TYVM

Oy
But your choices impact my kids. As well as all the kids in the school. There's enough data out there showing cloth masks aren't very good at protection from omicron (see Leana Wen's most recent op-ed)

Oh quit it with that nonsense. Lots of choices that other families make affect your kids. Do you complain when kids eat breakfast in the classroom? They are eating unmasked and that affects your kid way more than my kid in a 3-layer cloth mask.

If you are THAT concerned about your kid catching Covid (which is fine, do what works for you), then you should have chosen virtual academy.

Or is this just about how you want to be able to control everything that everyone else does?

Our kids eat outside. They have the choice and we signed up early on. The breakfast kids eat in the cafeteria, not in class. Virtual academy doesn't work for our family for many reasons.

No, its not that I want to control everything. Its that I'd like the school not to close if we can do something more. Also, I have a parent with cancer that I care for regularly and would rather not infect him.

Well since your kids eat outside and not with the poors who get the free breakfast, and they’re wearing your high quality masks the rest of the time, they should be good right? If all that is not good enough for you then you should have chosen VA (which you would have been accepted for due to the cancer parent). We can’t have everything we want right now, you either accept the risk with in person (which sounds pretty minimal for your kids) or the drawbacks of virtual.

How do I explain this clearly?
Low grade masks don't work well.
Transmission is very high in Moco.
Many of us want our kids to continue in school - the best way to do that is to keep teachers and kids safe.
I am not worried about my kids getting covid, personally. They are vaxxed, low risk, and like most of us in this country, have access to reasonably decent health care if they do get it. They will be fine. I don't want my kids, their classmates, or their teachers to get it because it will close down the school. Schools closed for months at a time is far worse than my child getting covid.

What you are seeing still is the community spread, not school spread. Start by putting the community in N95 masks. Why it’s ok for shoppers, restaurant goers and essentials to be in surgical and cloth, but force elementary school kids into KN95.

Ya'll do realize that the school is part of the community, right? And yes, everyone in MoCo should be in Kn95s

Would you accept KN-94s? They are actually designed for widespread use by the public and are more comfy for prolonged wear.

Yes, KN94s are great. You make an excellent point

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting kn95 masks on little kids for 6-7 hours a day is cruel

Agreed.

So is long covid, but whatevs.

Long Covid might or might not even be a thing.

So, yeah, whatevs.

Yeah? Give it some time

I guess you feel the same about vaccine mandates then?

The Pifzer study for kids is ongoing for 24 months since it started. Long term effects might or might not be a thing, right? We’ll know in about 18 more months.

Definitely no vaccine mandates for kids until we have more data. Just like we need more data on long covid.

The comparisons you are suggesting are very different and I will not be sucked into your attempt at derailment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good luck in finding the childsize anywhere near the volume that would be needed.

And good luck getting kids to comply with using them.

oh we have them. I just want more of the classmates to have them. Most are still in cloth masks.

Focus on your own kids and their masks. Please let other parents manage their own child.

This. I’m fine with my kids in cloth masks. You do what works for you and let other parents do what works for them. TYVM

except your kid in the cloth mask contributes to spread
https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1478867026542219264/photo/1

Okay. Would you prefer he go maskless then? I’m fine with that. If it makes no difference, let’s drop the charade of mask mandates.

I’m fine keeping him in a cloth mask, but I’m also fine without letting him go without it. Whatever you prefer.

I prefer Kn95s or other high filtration masks. Not sure where maskless came from in the conversation. Cloth masks are just not good enough in this era. sorry masking is the hardest thing your family has ever had to do

Your point was that cloth masks contribute to spread. So then, do you want to ban cloth masks?

You prefer the KN95s? Good for you! You are super protected. You can wear one and your kids can wear one. Some of us prefer cloth.