Why are you deleting posts that omicron is mild?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I realize this is hyperbolic posturing, but how on earth would you purport to calculate and enforce that? And where do we stop? What about people who refuse to get flu shots? Or people who speed? Or people who drive recklessly on those little scooters? Or people who leave banana peels on the ground? Should we ostracize and/or make them all pay too? The world is full of risks and dangers. If you can’t accept that, then maybe it’s you who should stay home.

As far as I am aware, people spreading the flu have not been held liable. But, spreading HIV and some other STDs can not only incur liability, but it has even been criminalized:

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/states/exposure.html

Obviously, speeding can incur tickets, arrest, and loss of license. Causing death, injury or property damage while speeding can result in both criminal charges and civil liability.

While I am not aware of the laws regarding recklessly riding little scooters, I am sure there are some. Certainly, causing death, injury, or property damage would incur liability.

Ironically, a banana peel featured in one of the most famous liability cases:

https://www.casebriefs.com/blog/law/torts/torts-keyed-to-prosser/negligence/anjou-v-boston-elevated-railway-co/

So, while you attempted to list absurd examples, you more or less described current law.

DP not an apt analogy. Laws regarding HIV and STD specifically note that the perpetrator must be aware of their condition. A person who is unvaccinated and capable of transmitting Covid is likely asymptomatic and unaware of their status.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I realize this is hyperbolic posturing, but how on earth would you purport to calculate and enforce that? And where do we stop? What about people who refuse to get flu shots? Or people who speed? Or people who drive recklessly on those little scooters? Or people who leave banana peels on the ground? Should we ostracize and/or make them all pay too? The world is full of risks and dangers. If you can’t accept that, then maybe it’s you who should stay home.

As far as I am aware, people spreading the flu have not been held liable. But, spreading HIV and some other STDs can not only incur liability, but it has even been criminalized:

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/states/exposure.html

Obviously, speeding can incur tickets, arrest, and loss of license. Causing death, injury or property damage while speeding can result in both criminal charges and civil liability.

While I am not aware of the laws regarding recklessly riding little scooters, I am sure there are some. Certainly, causing death, injury, or property damage would incur liability.

Ironically, a banana peel featured in one of the most famous liability cases:

https://www.casebriefs.com/blog/law/torts/torts-keyed-to-prosser/negligence/anjou-v-boston-elevated-railway-co/

So, while you attempted to list absurd examples, you more or less described current law.

DP not an apt analogy. Laws regarding HIV and STD specifically note that the perpetrator must be aware of their condition. A person who is unvaccinated and capable of transmitting Covid is likely asymptomatic and unaware of their status.

You are making an unprovable assumption. Plus, you ignored all of the rest of the post.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I realize this is hyperbolic posturing, but how on earth would you purport to calculate and enforce that? And where do we stop? What about people who refuse to get flu shots? Or people who speed? Or people who drive recklessly on those little scooters? Or people who leave banana peels on the ground? Should we ostracize and/or make them all pay too? The world is full of risks and dangers. If you can’t accept that, then maybe it’s you who should stay home.

As far as I am aware, people spreading the flu have not been held liable. But, spreading HIV and some other STDs can not only incur liability, but it has even been criminalized:

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/states/exposure.html

Obviously, speeding can incur tickets, arrest, and loss of license. Causing death, injury or property damage while speeding can result in both criminal charges and civil liability.

While I am not aware of the laws regarding recklessly riding little scooters, I am sure there are some. Certainly, causing death, injury, or property damage would incur liability.

Ironically, a banana peel featured in one of the most famous liability cases:

https://www.casebriefs.com/blog/law/torts/torts-keyed-to-prosser/negligence/anjou-v-boston-elevated-railway-co/

So, while you attempted to list absurd examples, you more or less described current law.

DP not an apt analogy. Laws regarding HIV and STD specifically note that the perpetrator must be aware of their condition. A person who is unvaccinated and capable of transmitting Covid is likely asymptomatic and unaware of their status.

You are making an unprovable assumption. Plus, you ignored all of the rest of the post.

Unprovable perhaps, but entirely logical. I can't imagine a person with fully expressed covid being out and amongst us hacking up a lung and posing a risk. More likely they would be in bed in some level of pain regretting their decision to not get properly vaxxed. And I don't find your other comparables particularly compelling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I realize this is hyperbolic posturing, but how on earth would you purport to calculate and enforce that? And where do we stop? What about people who refuse to get flu shots? Or people who speed? Or people who drive recklessly on those little scooters? Or people who leave banana peels on the ground? Should we ostracize and/or make them all pay too? The world is full of risks and dangers. If you can’t accept that, then maybe it’s you who should stay home.

As far as I am aware, people spreading the flu have not been held liable. But, spreading HIV and some other STDs can not only incur liability, but it has even been criminalized:

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/states/exposure.html

Obviously, speeding can incur tickets, arrest, and loss of license. Causing death, injury or property damage while speeding can result in both criminal charges and civil liability.

While I am not aware of the laws regarding recklessly riding little scooters, I am sure there are some. Certainly, causing death, injury, or property damage would incur liability.

Ironically, a banana peel featured in one of the most famous liability cases:

https://www.casebriefs.com/blog/law/torts/torts-keyed-to-prosser/negligence/anjou-v-boston-elevated-railway-co/

So, while you attempted to list absurd examples, you more or less described current law.

DP not an apt analogy. Laws regarding HIV and STD specifically note that the perpetrator must be aware of their condition. A person who is unvaccinated and capable of transmitting Covid is likely asymptomatic and unaware of their status.

You are making an unprovable assumption. Plus, you ignored all of the rest of the post.

Unprovable perhaps, but entirely logical. I can't imagine a person with fully expressed covid being out and amongst us hacking up a lung and posing a risk. More likely they would be in bed in some level of pain regretting their decision to not get properly vaxxed. And I don't find your other comparables particularly compelling.

People have been charged with spreading Covid
https://www.capitalgazette.com/coronavirus/ac-cn-exposure-by-infected-individual-20200413-tarruy4o5rfm7pi5hm5ait2nma-story.html?outputType=amp

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I realize this is hyperbolic posturing, but how on earth would you purport to calculate and enforce that? And where do we stop? What about people who refuse to get flu shots? Or people who speed? Or people who drive recklessly on those little scooters? Or people who leave banana peels on the ground? Should we ostracize and/or make them all pay too? The world is full of risks and dangers. If you can’t accept that, then maybe it’s you who should stay home.

As far as I am aware, people spreading the flu have not been held liable. But, spreading HIV and some other STDs can not only incur liability, but it has even been criminalized:

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/states/exposure.html

Obviously, speeding can incur tickets, arrest, and loss of license. Causing death, injury or property damage while speeding can result in both criminal charges and civil liability.

While I am not aware of the laws regarding recklessly riding little scooters, I am sure there are some. Certainly, causing death, injury, or property damage would incur liability.

Ironically, a banana peel featured in one of the most famous liability cases:

https://www.casebriefs.com/blog/law/torts/torts-keyed-to-prosser/negligence/anjou-v-boston-elevated-railway-co/

So, while you attempted to list absurd examples, you more or less described current law.

DP not an apt analogy. Laws regarding HIV and STD specifically note that the perpetrator must be aware of their condition. A person who is unvaccinated and capable of transmitting Covid is likely asymptomatic and unaware of their status.

You are making an unprovable assumption. Plus, you ignored all of the rest of the post.

Unprovable perhaps, but entirely logical. I can't imagine a person with fully expressed covid being out and amongst us hacking up a lung and posing a risk. More likely they would be in bed in some level of pain regretting their decision to not get properly vaxxed. And I don't find your other comparables particularly compelling.

Well, sucks that I didn't convince you. I just read a thread in the MCPS forum about a school having a large outbreak of covid because a parent sent their covid positive kid to school. The child was symptomatic and sat in class coughing all day. There are plenty of selfish people around who would have no problem knowingly spreading covid ("It's just the flu!"). So, I really think your logic ignores reality and, hence, is not logical.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:People have been charged with spreading Covid

I didn't even occur to me that this is already happening. After seeing your post, I looked into it more and I guess it is not even that uncommon. This article is from a year ago:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/insider/2020/12/16/achoo----so-sue-me-criminal-liability-for-spreading-a-virus/?sh=42b8dbe92897

Aside from worrying about being sued, individuals who spread the coronavirus also have to be concerned about being prosecuted. Dozens of Americans have been charged with coronavirus-related crimes since the beginning of the pandemic, ranging from people who have intentionally tried to infect others with Covid-19 to people who simply have disobeyed public health orders.

I wonder if the logical unconvinced poster will find reality compelling?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People have been charged with spreading Covid

I didn't even occur to me that this is already happening. After seeing your post, I looked into it more and I guess it is not even that uncommon. This article is from a year ago:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/insider/2020/12/16/achoo----so-sue-me-criminal-liability-for-spreading-a-virus/?sh=42b8dbe92897

Aside from worrying about being sued, individuals who spread the coronavirus also have to be concerned about being prosecuted. Dozens of Americans have been charged with coronavirus-related crimes since the beginning of the pandemic, ranging from people who have intentionally tried to infect others with Covid-19 to people who simply have disobeyed public health orders.

I wonder if the logical unconvinced poster will find reality compelling?

Perhaps you could view the fact that the handful of nutjobs who knowingly try to infect others make the news and/or are charged with a crime is because they are remote outliers? I mean that would be logical, no? Or is every un-vaccinated person who knows they are infected with Covid running about aggressively coughing on strangers? Certainly hasn’t made the news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People have been charged with spreading Covid

I didn't even occur to me that this is already happening. After seeing your post, I looked into it more and I guess it is not even that uncommon. This article is from a year ago:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/insider/2020/12/16/achoo----so-sue-me-criminal-liability-for-spreading-a-virus/?sh=42b8dbe92897

Aside from worrying about being sued, individuals who spread the coronavirus also have to be concerned about being prosecuted. Dozens of Americans have been charged with coronavirus-related crimes since the beginning of the pandemic, ranging from people who have intentionally tried to infect others with Covid-19 to people who simply have disobeyed public health orders.

I wonder if the logical unconvinced poster will find reality compelling?

Perhaps you could view the fact that the handful of nutjobs who knowingly try to infect others make the news and/or are charged with a crime is because they are remote outliers? I mean that would be logical, no? Or is every un-vaccinated person who knows they are infected with Covid running about aggressively coughing on strangers? Certainly hasn’t made the news.

Please point out where any of the PPs said “every” unvaccinated person was doing any such thing. We’ll wait.

And stop moving the goalposts. It’s so very transparent.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People have been charged with spreading Covid

I didn't even occur to me that this is already happening. After seeing your post, I looked into it more and I guess it is not even that uncommon. This article is from a year ago:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/insider/2020/12/16/achoo----so-sue-me-criminal-liability-for-spreading-a-virus/?sh=42b8dbe92897

Aside from worrying about being sued, individuals who spread the coronavirus also have to be concerned about being prosecuted. Dozens of Americans have been charged with coronavirus-related crimes since the beginning of the pandemic, ranging from people who have intentionally tried to infect others with Covid-19 to people who simply have disobeyed public health orders.

I wonder if the logical unconvinced poster will find reality compelling?

Perhaps you could view the fact that the handful of nutjobs who knowingly try to infect others make the news and/or are charged with a crime is because they are remote outliers? I mean that would be logical, no? Or is every un-vaccinated person who knows they are infected with Covid running about aggressively coughing on strangers? Certainly hasn’t made the news.

You suggested that it was "logical" that anybody with symptoms would stay home rather than spread covid. Now that you see that your logic is flawed, you are changing the topic. I am not sure what your point is other than to be argumentative. But, since I have better things to do, I'm going to lock this thread.