Reinstate School Resource Officers at MCPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To equate SROs with corrupt police that kill Black people in America was wrong in the first place. In Montgomery County, police brutality was never an issue. In MCPS, SROs were not causing any problems either. Instead, SROs were helpful in creating trust between students and police. They were helpful in resolving many issues without unnecessary escalation.

I think we need SROs back and we also need metal detectors at doors and more CCTV monitoring in schools. If MCPS does not have the funds for it, maybe the funds can be donated from other non-MCPS sources.

I think that this belief is actually part of the problem. Is bad policing as big a problem in MPCD as in other police forces in other places in the US? No. Is bad policing a problem in MCPD? Yes.

MCPD's position has basically been, "We're not as bad as those other police forces, so stop yelling at us, it makes us feel sad." But that's not good enough.

Also, no, we don't need metal detectors at doors. Schools are not prisons.

We have metal detectors for large groups events. Concerts, travel and much more. It’s not about being a prison but keeping kids and staff safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you care about school safety, pls sign this petition.
https://www.change.org/p/montgomery-county-council-reinstate-school-resource-officers-at-mcps

Recently, there are a number of local and nation wide violence attacks against students. Here are two quick examples.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/blair-high-school-stabbing-student-charged/2021/11/09/7e87293a-4176-11ec-a88e-2aa4632af69b_story.html
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/video-teen-girls-attack-students-on-septa-train/3051706/

It sounds the time to put our student safety first.

Thanks,

Give it up already. You lost.

Lost what? Wanting safety in schools. Yes, I did lose. Kids and staff are being hurt daily. What will it take. Your child being injured?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To equate SROs with corrupt police that kill Black people in America was wrong in the first place. In Montgomery County, police brutality was never an issue. In MCPS, SROs were not causing any problems either. Instead, SROs were helpful in creating trust between students and police. They were helpful in resolving many issues without unnecessary escalation.

I think we need SROs back and we also need metal detectors at doors and more CCTV monitoring in schools. If MCPS does not have the funds for it, maybe the funds can be donated from other non-MCPS sources.

I think that this belief is actually part of the problem. Is bad policing as big a problem in MPCD as in other police forces in other places in the US? No. Is bad policing a problem in MCPD? Yes.

MCPD's position has basically been, "We're not as bad as those other police forces, so stop yelling at us, it makes us feel sad." But that's not good enough.

Also, no, we don't need metal detectors at doors. Schools are not prisons.

We have metal detectors for large groups events. Concerts, travel and much more. It’s not about being a prison but keeping kids and staff safe.

And much more, specifically, what?

Not to mention that high school is not a "large group event."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To equate SROs with corrupt police that kill Black people in America was wrong in the first place. In Montgomery County, police brutality was never an issue. In MCPS, SROs were not causing any problems either. Instead, SROs were helpful in creating trust between students and police. They were helpful in resolving many issues without unnecessary escalation.

I think we need SROs back and we also need metal detectors at doors and more CCTV monitoring in schools. If MCPS does not have the funds for it, maybe the funds can be donated from other non-MCPS sources.

I think that this belief is actually part of the problem. Is bad policing as big a problem in MPCD as in other police forces in other places in the US? No. Is bad policing a problem in MCPD? Yes.

MCPD's position has basically been, "We're not as bad as those other police forces, so stop yelling at us, it makes us feel sad." But that's not good enough.

Also, no, we don't need metal detectors at doors. Schools are not prisons.

We have metal detectors for large groups events. Concerts, travel and much more. It’s not about being a prison but keeping kids and staff safe.

And much more, specifically, what?

Not to mention that high school is not a "large group event."

Our high schools average from 3-4K students. That is a large group. And, the schools are getting larger, not smaller. Its an impossible task to be everything to each one of those students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To equate SROs with corrupt police that kill Black people in America was wrong in the first place. In Montgomery County, police brutality was never an issue. In MCPS, SROs were not causing any problems either. Instead, SROs were helpful in creating trust between students and police. They were helpful in resolving many issues without unnecessary escalation.

I think we need SROs back and we also need metal detectors at doors and more CCTV monitoring in schools. If MCPS does not have the funds for it, maybe the funds can be donated from other non-MCPS sources.

I think that this belief is actually part of the problem. Is bad policing as big a problem in MPCD as in other police forces in other places in the US? No. Is bad policing a problem in MCPD? Yes.

MCPD's position has basically been, "We're not as bad as those other police forces, so stop yelling at us, it makes us feel sad." But that's not good enough.

Also, no, we don't need metal detectors at doors. Schools are not prisons.

We have metal detectors for large groups events. Concerts, travel and much more. It’s not about being a prison but keeping kids and staff safe.

And much more, specifically, what?

Not to mention that high school is not a "large group event."

Our high schools average from 3-4K students. That is a large group. And, the schools are getting larger, not smaller. Its an impossible task to be everything to each one of those students.

A high school is not an event..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Educator who has worked in many Moco high schools- a good sro is an essential member of a school team...forming relationships with kids, having a handle on community matters, and conducting police duties as essential. Pre-pandemic, the kids were far from okay- I can't even imagine what it's like now and without the consistent police presence. Restorative justice is a joke- I've never seen a school implement it as designed. Mental health services at the school are very limited in scope. The violence is going to continue until children die...maybe they will reverse course then

This post is on target.

There were more student arrests pre-SROs than post. We 100% need them in our schools.

However, I cannot in good conscience sign anything put forth by Steve Austin, as it will not be taken seriously by those in charge.

Really? Are trying to tell me that there were more student arrests in the 80's and early 90's?
Care to share the data?

Not the PP but there was a ton of arrests in the 90’s. That’s when it was against the law to posses a pager on school grounds. It wasn’t a rule. It was a law. Kids were being taken out of schools in handcuffs everyday and all the arrests were generated by teachers.

Wrong, there were not a lot of kids being arrested because they possessed pagers. Detentions? Yes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

It is a nightmare for administrators who are actually IN schools and who actually do care about kids’ safety.

Then why did _all_ MCPS principals vote in favor of SROs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To equate SROs with corrupt police that kill Black people in America was wrong in the first place. In Montgomery County, police brutality was never an issue. In MCPS, SROs were not causing any problems either. Instead, SROs were helpful in creating trust between students and police. They were helpful in resolving many issues without unnecessary escalation.

I think we need SROs back and we also need metal detectors at doors and more CCTV monitoring in schools. If MCPS does not have the funds for it, maybe the funds can be donated from other non-MCPS sources.

I think that this belief is actually part of the problem. Is bad policing as big a problem in MPCD as in other police forces in other places in the US? No. Is bad policing a problem in MCPD? Yes.

MCPD's position has basically been, "We're not as bad as those other police forces, so stop yelling at us, it makes us feel sad." But that's not good enough.

Also, no, we don't need metal detectors at doors. Schools are not prisons.

We have metal detectors for large groups events. Concerts, travel and much more. It’s not about being a prison but keeping kids and staff safe.

And much more, specifically, what?

Not to mention that high school is not a "large group event."

Our high schools average from 3-4K students. That is a large group. And, the schools are getting larger, not smaller. Its an impossible task to be everything to each one of those students.

A high school is not an event..

They are large groups, so equal. And, clearly there is a need.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is a nightmare for administrators who are actually IN schools and who actually do care about kids’ safety.

Then why did _all_ MCPS principals vote in favor of SROs?

Because they are there. On the ground. Jawando and Huckler are miles away and wouldn’t be be caught dead in a public school. The principals know how valuaySROs are. The liberal morons have no clue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is a nightmare for administrators who are actually IN schools and who actually do care about kids’ safety.

Then why did _all_ MCPS principals vote in favor of SROs?

Because they are there. On the ground. Jawando and Huckler are miles away and wouldn’t be be caught dead in a public school. The principals know how valuaySROs are. The liberal morons have no clue.

Jawa dos kids are in an expensive private school. He does not care about safety or improving mcps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is a nightmare for administrators who are actually IN schools and who actually do care about kids’ safety.

Then why did _all_ MCPS principals vote in favor of SROs?

Because they are there. On the ground. Jawando and Huckler are miles away and wouldn’t be be caught dead in a public school. The principals know how valuaySROs are. The liberal morons have no clue.

Jawa dos kids are in an expensive private school. He does not care about safety or improving mcps.

This. Jawando is a hypocrite. Just remember the people on the current county council and their track record. What have they done for the good of the county? These are the same people who succeeded in making MCPS students less safe. They only care about themselves and their pet projects. Do we really trust them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is a nightmare for administrators who are actually IN schools and who actually do care about kids’ safety.

Then why did _all_ MCPS principals vote in favor of SROs?

Because they are there. On the ground. Jawando and Huckler are miles away and wouldn’t be be caught dead in a public school. The principals know how valuaySROs are. The liberal morons have no clue.

Jawa dos kids are in an expensive private school. He does not care about safety or improving mcps.

This. Jawando is a hypocrite. Just remember the people on the current county council and their track record. What have they done for the good of the county? These are the same people who succeeded in making MCPS students less safe. They only care about themselves and their pet projects. Do we really trust them?

+1. I’m always grateful to know others see the council for what it really is. I watched the virtual meetings about SROs. I was blown away by how biased these meetings were. Anecdotes… not data. I’ve only seen one statistic: 100% of principals wanted SROs to remain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is a nightmare for administrators who are actually IN schools and who actually do care about kids’ safety.

Then why did _all_ MCPS principals vote in favor of SROs?

Because they are there. On the ground. Jawando and Huckler are miles away and wouldn’t be be caught dead in a public school. The principals know how valuaySROs are. The liberal morons have no clue.

Jawa dos kids are in an expensive private school. He does not care about safety or improving mcps.

This. Jawando is a hypocrite. Just remember the people on the current county council and their track record. What have they done for the good of the county? These are the same people who succeeded in making MCPS students less safe. They only care about themselves and their pet projects. Do we really trust them?

+1. I’m always grateful to know others see the council for what it really is. I watched the virtual meetings about SROs. I was blown away by how biased these meetings were. Anecdotes… not data. I’ve only seen one statistic: 100% of principals wanted SROs to remain.

You keep posting this and ignoring the data they did consider, so I'm not going to bother posting it again. An opinion poll of principals just shows they like that the police is there to deal with school discipline so they don't have to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is a nightmare for administrators who are actually IN schools and who actually do care about kids’ safety.

Then why did _all_ MCPS principals vote in favor of SROs?

Because they are there. On the ground. Jawando and Huckler are miles away and wouldn’t be be caught dead in a public school. The principals know how valuaySROs are. The liberal morons have no clue.

Jawa dos kids are in an expensive private school. He does not care about safety or improving mcps.

This. Jawando is a hypocrite. Just remember the people on the current county council and their track record. What have they done for the good of the county? These are the same people who succeeded in making MCPS students less safe. They only care about themselves and their pet projects. Do we really trust them?

+1. I’m always grateful to know others see the council for what it really is. I watched the virtual meetings about SROs. I was blown away by how biased these meetings were. Anecdotes… not data. I’ve only seen one statistic: 100% of principals wanted SROs to remain.

You keep posting this and ignoring the data they did consider, so I'm not going to bother posting it again. An opinion poll of principals just shows they like that the police is there to deal with school discipline so they don't have to.

I watched the meetings. I saw the “data.” I read this entire thread. The council’s argument simply wasn’t convincing. You don’t need to post anything again. Also, the opinions of principals are valuable; they know the role of the SRO and how the SROs interact with the community. Why was the council so quick to discredit them? You suggest the principals only want SROs so they don’t have to deal with student discipline. That’s merely your opinion and also doesn’t contain any facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is a nightmare for administrators who are actually IN schools and who actually do care about kids’ safety.

Then why did _all_ MCPS principals vote in favor of SROs?

Why do principals pass pedophiles around instead of firing them?