Question for VA Republicans re: public schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I do send my kids to a private school (as a former public school teacher I'd sacrifice a lot of other things before I sacrificed on school cost) but that doesn't resolve the problem of kids being victims of a system that centers the Woke Brigade and teachers unions over the needs of kids.

I think it's gross that you are so dismissive of the needs of poor kids, even if those kids aren't my kids.

+100
Well said.

And yet half the people want their taxes back and to stop funding public schools. Just like Youngkin, who despite being very wealthy, doesn’t pay taxes on his huge property. So gross.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is classic Democrat to not care about something that doesn’t impact you. I am a Republican. I thought my kids would get a good public school education like I did. It was bad. No rigor. We moved to Private 4 years ago and have no regrets. But not everyone can do that and education is the key to advancement and success in life and public schools have to be good. But they aren’t right now and I care about that a lot. It is important for our society.

Most public schools are more rigorous than most private schools. Private schools generally have less qualified teachers. And a larger number of them teach nonsense like man and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time and the earth is only 7,000 years old.

Clearly you know nothing about private schools. Or daughters were in allegedly the best elementary school in Arlingtin before the pandemic. I gave them additional math training because their teacher was weak in math and could not explain third grade level content. During the pandemic, we got some of the last spaces at a local parochial school. We thought we would do it for six months. The change was amazing. The “less qualified” teachers brought our kids out if the pandemic school malaise and hit them excited about school. They are also more kind and caring and no longer bullied because of their race. They are never going back to the school where my children and I did grammar and spelling lessons by correcting notes and emails from their teachers.

They will continue with private schools even though it means we can’t expand our small house.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He supports Trump, and the big lie, but distanced himself from it. He made up some CRT bullshit that isn’t real to scare white women. That it worked makes the lies successful, but he still clawed his way into office without a primary, without any real policy issues, and by telling lies. Hard to feel good about that.

Im ok with switching parties in leadership from time to time, but id rather it not be a Trump Republican. I just can’t trust people willing to tear down faith in democracy and politicizing a pandemic. Their just isn’t anything beneath people like that.

The fight against CRT in K-12 has been going on for about a two years. Only recently did it rear it's head in VA so Youngkin didn't make it up.

Forget about labels. Please articulate what specifically was being taught in VA classrooms that you think should stop.

Or is it the possibility that CRT may be taught in the future, as other posters have said?

The most common way CRT is showing up in K-12 is the teaching of anti-racism which is more often than not, racism. And the most common way anti-racism it taught it with books like Stamped by Kendi. Kendi advocates for discrimination against whites and attempts to indoctrinate kids with this belief in his book. His coauthor admitted this in an interview with Trevor Noah last year.

For years parents complained teachers taught to the test. Please show me where in the SOLs there is any mention of CRT or “anti-racism.’l

And stop with the nonsense that anti-racism is in fact racism. That’s some Orwellian doublespeak right there. I am fully cognizant of the fascist impulses of right-wingers, but keep that stuff out of our schools. The irony here is palpable.

OMG, stop with this nonsense. You are in the minority with your way of thinking regarding the schools and that is why you lost. AGAIN, for the 1000th time, it does not matter whether CRT is referred to specifically anywhere. People see through what school boards thought was a sly angle to push the agenda regardless of what you call it. Have you not read these boards. These are not right-wingers upset with the school "stuff" being taught.

How should we talk about racism and biases?

What are the acceptable ways?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I went public for all but half of my post-HS education. I am sending my kids to private because they need the rigor to stay engaged, and public just doesn’t cut it. Minority-majority school btw. I think a lot of parents started questioning during the pandemic because they could hear what was being taught, and what wasn’t. We know some kids who were in PK with ours years ago, and the gulf was just getting wider each year until it was too much to ignore. There was a lot of that.

Anywho, here’s the deal: you can have the community pay for your schooling and you have to accept what the community does or doesn’t want, or you can pay for it and make your own decisions. Since we’re still part of the community, we’re pushing for more rigor and less crap in the public schools. Because whether you agree with our choices or not, we need your kids to contribute into social security for us.

Just kidding—social security won’t make it past 2035. But you get the idea.

Ok, if the community has a say in what public schools teach because they “pay for it” then can the community have a say in what private schools teach because they get tax breaks that are paid for by the rest of us?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do send my kids to a private school (as a former public school teacher I'd sacrifice a lot of other things before I sacrificed on school cost) but that doesn't resolve the problem of kids being victims of a system that centers the Woke Brigade and teachers unions over the needs of kids.

I think it's gross that you are so dismissive of the needs of poor kids, even if those kids aren't my kids.

+100
Well said.

And yet half the people want their taxes back and to stop funding public schools. Just like Youngkin, who despite being very wealthy, doesn’t pay taxes on his huge property. So gross.

Oooh, please post a link for this juicy tidbit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do send my kids to a private school (as a former public school teacher I'd sacrifice a lot of other things before I sacrificed on school cost) but that doesn't resolve the problem of kids being victims of a system that centers the Woke Brigade and teachers unions over the needs of kids.

I think it's gross that you are so dismissive of the needs of poor kids, even if those kids aren't my kids.

+100
Well said.

And yet half the people want their taxes back and to stop funding public schools. Just like Youngkin, who despite being very wealthy, doesn’t pay taxes on his huge property. So gross.

Oooh, please post a link for this juicy tidbit.

He got an agricultural exemption for his more than $6.5m property. He’s a farmer. And he is going to rebuild our schools! He hoodwinked everyone. Disgusting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He supports Trump, and the big lie, but distanced himself from it. He made up some CRT bullshit that isn’t real to scare white women. That it worked makes the lies successful, but he still clawed his way into office without a primary, without any real policy issues, and by telling lies. Hard to feel good about that.

Im ok with switching parties in leadership from time to time, but id rather it not be a Trump Republican. I just can’t trust people willing to tear down faith in democracy and politicizing a pandemic. Their just isn’t anything beneath people like that.

The fight against CRT in K-12 has been going on for about a two years. Only recently did it rear it's head in VA so Youngkin didn't make it up.

Forget about labels. Please articulate what specifically was being taught in VA classrooms that you think should stop.

Or is it the possibility that CRT may be taught in the future, as other posters have said?

The most common way CRT is showing up in K-12 is the teaching of anti-racism which is more often than not, racism. And the most common way anti-racism it taught it with books like Stamped by Kendi. Kendi advocates for discrimination against whites and attempts to indoctrinate kids with this belief in his book. His coauthor admitted this in an interview with Trevor Noah last year.

For years parents complained teachers taught to the test. Please show me where in the SOLs there is any mention of CRT or “anti-racism.’l

And stop with the nonsense that anti-racism is in fact racism. That’s some Orwellian doublespeak right there. I am fully cognizant of the fascist impulses of right-wingers, but keep that stuff out of our schools. The irony here is palpable.

OMG, stop with this nonsense. You are in the minority with your way of thinking regarding the schools and that is why you lost. AGAIN, for the 1000th time, it does not matter whether CRT is referred to specifically anywhere. People see through what school boards thought was a sly angle to push the agenda regardless of what you call it. Have you not read these boards. These are not right-wingers upset with the school "stuff" being taught.

How should we talk about racism and biases?

What are the acceptable ways?

I would like math class to be about math and same for science, English, reading, spelling etc. I would like for elementary schools to pretty much focus on laying the groundwork for a solid education that the upper level schools can build on and not even lay so much of societies' issues on little kids. There is plenty of time for that. Teach the golden rule - treat others as you would like to be treated. Correct issues if and when they arise and use that as a teachable moment. I just do not think elementary kids need to be delving into societal issues just yet and sticking with straight up three Rs is a better approach to a well-educated child. Let middle school introduce these concepts and high school continue to encourage kids to really debate the issues and not just get a one-sided teachers' union/NEA agenda shoved down their throats.

[Anonymous]

He got an agricultural exemption for his more than $6.5m property. He’s a farmer. And he is going to rebuild our schools! He hoodwinked everyone. Disgusting.

That just makes him smart. You have a problem with that?

I never heard Youngkin imply that his kids went to public schools. I don't know if they did or not.

Terry sent one of his five kids to Langley. His others went to Potomac. Terry never attended a public school in his life.

But, when asked about schools, he said to Todd that parents should not interfere.

Later on MTP, he implied that his kids went to public schools:
paraphrasing pretty closely:

Virginia has great public schools!
Dorothy and I raised our kids in Virginia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He supports Trump, and the big lie, but distanced himself from it. He made up some CRT bullshit that isn’t real to scare white women. That it worked makes the lies successful, but he still clawed his way into office without a primary, without any real policy issues, and by telling lies. Hard to feel good about that.

Im ok with switching parties in leadership from time to time, but id rather it not be a Trump Republican. I just can’t trust people willing to tear down faith in democracy and politicizing a pandemic. Their just isn’t anything beneath people like that.

The fight against CRT in K-12 has been going on for about a two years. Only recently did it rear it's head in VA so Youngkin didn't make it up.

Forget about labels. Please articulate what specifically was being taught in VA classrooms that you think should stop.

Or is it the possibility that CRT may be taught in the future, as other posters have said?

The most common way CRT is showing up in K-12 is the teaching of anti-racism which is more often than not, racism. And the most common way anti-racism it taught it with books like Stamped by Kendi. Kendi advocates for discrimination against whites and attempts to indoctrinate kids with this belief in his book. His coauthor admitted this in an interview with Trevor Noah last year.

For years parents complained teachers taught to the test. Please show me where in the SOLs there is any mention of CRT or “anti-racism.’l

And stop with the nonsense that anti-racism is in fact racism. That’s some Orwellian doublespeak right there. I am fully cognizant of the fascist impulses of right-wingers, but keep that stuff out of our schools. The irony here is palpable.

OMG, stop with this nonsense. You are in the minority with your way of thinking regarding the schools and that is why you lost. AGAIN, for the 1000th time, it does not matter whether CRT is referred to specifically anywhere. People see through what school boards thought was a sly angle to push the agenda regardless of what you call it. Have you not read these boards. These are not right-wingers upset with the school "stuff" being taught.

How should we talk about racism and biases?

What are the acceptable ways?

I would like math class to be about math and same for science, English, reading, spelling etc. I would like for elementary schools to pretty much focus on laying the groundwork for a solid education that the upper level schools can build on and not even lay so much of societies' issues on little kids. There is plenty of time for that. Teach the golden rule - treat others as you would like to be treated. Correct issues if and when they arise and use that as a teachable moment. I just do not think elementary kids need to be delving into societal issues just yet and sticking with straight up three Rs is a better approach to a well-educated child. Let middle school introduce these concepts and high school continue to encourage kids to really debate the issues and not just get a one-sided teachers' union/NEA agenda shoved down their throats.

So you think there should be no discussion about racism or biases in ES. Even for the teachers?

What about MS/HS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you don't like how your public school is run, why can't you just send your kids to private schools? Are you poor?

I wouldn't say we're poor but we can't afford private school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do send my kids to a private school (as a former public school teacher I'd sacrifice a lot of other things before I sacrificed on school cost) but that doesn't resolve the problem of kids being victims of a system that centers the Woke Brigade and teachers unions over the needs of kids.

I think it's gross that you are so dismissive of the needs of poor kids, even if those kids aren't my kids.

+100
Well said.

And yet half the people want their taxes back and to stop funding public schools. Just like Youngkin, who despite being very wealthy, doesn’t pay taxes on his huge property. So gross.

Oooh, please post a link for this juicy tidbit.

He got an agricultural exemption for his more than $6.5m property. He’s a farmer. And he is going to rebuild our schools! He hoodwinked everyone. Disgusting.

Sounds like he & his accountant had documentation to get designated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He supports Trump, and the big lie, but distanced himself from it. He made up some CRT bullshit that isn’t real to scare white women. That it worked makes the lies successful, but he still clawed his way into office without a primary, without any real policy issues, and by telling lies. Hard to feel good about that.

Im ok with switching parties in leadership from time to time, but id rather it not be a Trump Republican. I just can’t trust people willing to tear down faith in democracy and politicizing a pandemic. Their just isn’t anything beneath people like that.

The fight against CRT in K-12 has been going on for about a two years. Only recently did it rear it's head in VA so Youngkin didn't make it up.

Forget about labels. Please articulate what specifically was being taught in VA classrooms that you think should stop.

Or is it the possibility that CRT may be taught in the future, as other posters have said?

The most common way CRT is showing up in K-12 is the teaching of anti-racism which is more often than not, racism. And the most common way anti-racism it taught it with books like Stamped by Kendi. Kendi advocates for discrimination against whites and attempts to indoctrinate kids with this belief in his book. His coauthor admitted this in an interview with Trevor Noah last year.

For years parents complained teachers taught to the test. Please show me where in the SOLs there is any mention of CRT or “anti-racism.’l

And stop with the nonsense that anti-racism is in fact racism. That’s some Orwellian doublespeak right there. I am fully cognizant of the fascist impulses of right-wingers, but keep that stuff out of our schools. The irony here is palpable.

OMG, stop with this nonsense. You are in the minority with your way of thinking regarding the schools and that is why you lost. AGAIN, for the 1000th time, it does not matter whether CRT is referred to specifically anywhere. People see through what school boards thought was a sly angle to push the agenda regardless of what you call it. Have you not read these boards. These are not right-wingers upset with the school "stuff" being taught.

How should we talk about racism and biases?

What are the acceptable ways?

I would like math class to be about math and same for science, English, reading, spelling etc. I would like for elementary schools to pretty much focus on laying the groundwork for a solid education that the upper level schools can build on and not even lay so much of societies' issues on little kids. There is plenty of time for that. Teach the golden rule - treat others as you would like to be treated. Correct issues if and when they arise and use that as a teachable moment. I just do not think elementary kids need to be delving into societal issues just yet and sticking with straight up three Rs is a better approach to a well-educated child. Let middle school introduce these concepts and high school continue to encourage kids to really debate the issues and not just get a one-sided teachers' union/NEA agenda shoved down their throats.

So you think there should be no discussion about racism or biases in ES. Even for the teachers?

What about MS/HS?

Nope. How about teaching the little kids to just be nice to each other, help others and teach what being a good friend means ? That really sort of takes care of the issue for that age group. I addressed middle and high school. Why can't the base for further discussion be laid in a positive way? IMO, kids will be more likely to recognize and stand up against racism when the groundwork is positive and about being kind to everyone than making people feel bad and pointing out the differences in people from the time they are little. As they get older, then more examples and debate can take place.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He supports Trump, and the big lie, but distanced himself from it. He made up some CRT bullshit that isn’t real to scare white women. That it worked makes the lies successful, but he still clawed his way into office without a primary, without any real policy issues, and by telling lies. Hard to feel good about that.

Im ok with switching parties in leadership from time to time, but id rather it not be a Trump Republican. I just can’t trust people willing to tear down faith in democracy and politicizing a pandemic. Their just isn’t anything beneath people like that.

The fight against CRT in K-12 has been going on for about a two years. Only recently did it rear it's head in VA so Youngkin didn't make it up.

Forget about labels. Please articulate what specifically was being taught in VA classrooms that you think should stop.

Or is it the possibility that CRT may be taught in the future, as other posters have said?

The most common way CRT is showing up in K-12 is the teaching of anti-racism which is more often than not, racism. And the most common way anti-racism it taught it with books like Stamped by Kendi. Kendi advocates for discrimination against whites and attempts to indoctrinate kids with this belief in his book. His coauthor admitted this in an interview with Trevor Noah last year.

For years parents complained teachers taught to the test. Please show me where in the SOLs there is any mention of CRT or “anti-racism.’l

And stop with the nonsense that anti-racism is in fact racism. That’s some Orwellian doublespeak right there. I am fully cognizant of the fascist impulses of right-wingers, but keep that stuff out of our schools. The irony here is palpable.

OMG, stop with this nonsense. You are in the minority with your way of thinking regarding the schools and that is why you lost. AGAIN, for the 1000th time, it does not matter whether CRT is referred to specifically anywhere. People see through what school boards thought was a sly angle to push the agenda regardless of what you call it. Have you not read these boards. These are not right-wingers upset with the school "stuff" being taught.

How should we talk about racism and biases?

What are the acceptable ways?

I would like math class to be about math and same for science, English, reading, spelling etc. I would like for elementary schools to pretty much focus on laying the groundwork for a solid education that the upper level schools can build on and not even lay so much of societies' issues on little kids. There is plenty of time for that. Teach the golden rule - treat others as you would like to be treated. Correct issues if and when they arise and use that as a teachable moment. I just do not think elementary kids need to be delving into societal issues just yet and sticking with straight up three Rs is a better approach to a well-educated child. Let middle school introduce these concepts and high school continue to encourage kids to really debate the issues and not just get a one-sided teachers' union/NEA agenda shoved down their throats.

So you think there should be no discussion about racism or biases in ES. Even for the teachers?

What about MS/HS?

DP

No, there most definitely should not. Not for the schools to teach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He supports Trump, and the big lie, but distanced himself from it. He made up some CRT bullshit that isn’t real to scare white women. That it worked makes the lies successful, but he still clawed his way into office without a primary, without any real policy issues, and by telling lies. Hard to feel good about that.

Im ok with switching parties in leadership from time to time, but id rather it not be a Trump Republican. I just can’t trust people willing to tear down faith in democracy and politicizing a pandemic. Their just isn’t anything beneath people like that.

The fight against CRT in K-12 has been going on for about a two years. Only recently did it rear it's head in VA so Youngkin didn't make it up.

Forget about labels. Please articulate what specifically was being taught in VA classrooms that you think should stop.

Or is it the possibility that CRT may be taught in the future, as other posters have said?

The most common way CRT is showing up in K-12 is the teaching of anti-racism which is more often than not, racism. And the most common way anti-racism it taught it with books like Stamped by Kendi. Kendi advocates for discrimination against whites and attempts to indoctrinate kids with this belief in his book. His coauthor admitted this in an interview with Trevor Noah last year.

So now we are calling anti-racism “CRT”? Along with anti-bias training (from another post)? These have been around for a while now - why the new label?

Can you provide examples of how Kendi advocates for “discrimination against whites”? Because that’s different than “antiracist discrimination”.

How should we talk about racism and biases? What are the acceptable ways?

There are a lot and I don't have the time right now to look them up. Will later. But one was that white parents should not be adopting black children and are racist to do so. My cousin has two adopted black children that he loves and takes care of way better than their birth parents would have and I was quite taken aback by this comment. Basically Kendi doesn't like being a minority in the US and wants to tell everyone in the US who is in a majority (wouldn't be surprised if he went after Hispanics soon too) that they are subjugating black people regardless of what they do. Not every interaction between whites and blacks is racist, but Kendi doesn't see life this way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He supports Trump, and the big lie, but distanced himself from it. He made up some CRT bullshit that isn’t real to scare white women. That it worked makes the lies successful, but he still clawed his way into office without a primary, without any real policy issues, and by telling lies. Hard to feel good about that.

Im ok with switching parties in leadership from time to time, but id rather it not be a Trump Republican. I just can’t trust people willing to tear down faith in democracy and politicizing a pandemic. Their just isn’t anything beneath people like that.

The fight against CRT in K-12 has been going on for about a two years. Only recently did it rear it's head in VA so Youngkin didn't make it up.

Forget about labels. Please articulate what specifically was being taught in VA classrooms that you think should stop.

Or is it the possibility that CRT may be taught in the future, as other posters have said?

The most common way CRT is showing up in K-12 is the teaching of anti-racism which is more often than not, racism. And the most common way anti-racism it taught it with books like Stamped by Kendi. Kendi advocates for discrimination against whites and attempts to indoctrinate kids with this belief in his book. His coauthor admitted this in an interview with Trevor Noah last year.

For years parents complained teachers taught to the test. Please show me where in the SOLs there is any mention of CRT or “anti-racism.’l

And stop with the nonsense that anti-racism is in fact racism. That’s some Orwellian doublespeak right there. I am fully cognizant of the fascist impulses of right-wingers, but keep that stuff out of our schools. The irony here is palpable.

OMG, stop with this nonsense. You are in the minority with your way of thinking regarding the schools and that is why you lost. AGAIN, for the 1000th time, it does not matter whether CRT is referred to specifically anywhere. People see through what school boards thought was a sly angle to push the agenda regardless of what you call it. Have you not read these boards. These are not right-wingers upset with the school "stuff" being taught.

How should we talk about racism and biases?

What are the acceptable ways?

I would like math class to be about math and same for science, English, reading, spelling etc. I would like for elementary schools to pretty much focus on laying the groundwork for a solid education that the upper level schools can build on and not even lay so much of societies' issues on little kids. There is plenty of time for that. Teach the golden rule - treat others as you would like to be treated. Correct issues if and when they arise and use that as a teachable moment. I just do not think elementary kids need to be delving into societal issues just yet and sticking with straight up three Rs is a better approach to a well-educated child. Let middle school introduce these concepts and high school continue to encourage kids to really debate the issues and not just get a one-sided teachers' union/NEA agenda shoved down their throats.

So you think there should be no discussion about racism or biases in ES. Even for the teachers?

What about MS/HS?

Nope. How about teaching the little kids to just be nice to each other, help others and teach what being a good friend means ? That really sort of takes care of the issue for that age group. I addressed middle and high school. Why can't the base for further discussion be laid in a positive way? IMO, kids will be more likely to recognize and stand up against racism when the groundwork is positive and about being kind to everyone than making people feel bad and pointing out the differences in people from the time they are little. As they get older, then more examples and debate can take place.

I meant should the teachers (adults) get anti-bias training for themselves. Not something they would “teach” to kids. Anti-bias training has been around forever. When did that get controversial?

What does it mean to teach about racism “positively”?

What age would be appropriate for reading Kendi and other modern civil rights advocates?