Biden needs to lead...NOW!

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Anonymous wrote:It's sad when someone raises legitimate concerns about her party and her party's leadership (all for the sake of her party), she's immediately doubted or called a troll.


Troll or no troll - some Dems don’t want to spend $3.5 trillion on that bloated bill. Pass Infrastructure alone - which they could have done weeks ago - and stop hanging us up.


What is bloated about it? Be specific.


Dem here and I don’t see this bill as bloated. If anything, it’s addressing long-overdue issues like pre K and healthcare. When are we going to keep up with the rest of the developed world in terms of the way we invest in infrastructure, education, and health?


If you want those issues addressed put a separate bill to vote in health and education but do not tie it to Infrastructure. It’s sinking our Infrastructure bill which would be the greatest victory in a century.


We didn't need an unfunded multi-trillion dollar tax cut for the 1% either. At least this will begin to benefit the American people. If that can be done in reconcilliation, then so can this.
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Anonymous wrote:What does Trump have to do with anything?

Yes, we know Biden is better than Trump. So what? Is that all he has to offer? Can we raise the bar a little higher than "well is he better than Trump?"

Why does every counter point on this site have to start with "well Trump..." enough with this

The bar is so much higher already. OP’s trolling and doesn't want to admit that the $3.5 trillion is INSANELY popular with people. We’re so far behind where we ought to be, and this will help us catch up. The GOP does not want us to catch up.

“It’s bloated! It’s not paid for!” Oh my god, so bloated, look at all this unnecessary spending nonsense! Like evening up the playing field for education! Address the forest fires that blanketed the entire country with smoke this summer! They’re even addressing housing? No, say it isn’t so, I love knowing that vets, the mentally ill and my children’s classmates are living on the streets!
“-726 billion for the Health, Labor, Education and Pensions Committee with expansive instructions to address some of Democrats' top priorities. Those areas include universal pre-K for 3- and 4-year-olds, child care for working families, tuition-free community college, funding for historically black colleges and universities and an expansion of the Pell Grant for higher education.
-$107 billion for the Judiciary Committee, including instructions to address "lawful permanent status for qualified immigrants."
-$135 billion for the Committee on Agriculture Nutrition and Forestry, including instructions to address forest fires, reduce carbon emissions and address drought concerns.
-$332 billion for the Banking Committee, including instructions to invest in public housing, the Housing Trust Fund, housing affordability and equity and community land trusts.
-$198 billion for the Energy and Natural Resources Committee, including instructions largely related to clean energy development.” https://www.npr.org/2021/08/09/1026055615/senate-democrats-release-3-5t-budget-framework That article also goes on to say that the Democrats are having to go it alone. Why? Because the GOP is a bunch of sociopaths.

This could be paid for if we could get the IRS the money it needs for enforcement.

But it won’t be because the GOP is actively rooting for the US to fail.


At some point you're going to have to understand that just because you think something is a good idea or should be priority doesn't mean that others do. Not even other democrats.


Agreed.

Also if the Squad doesn’t stop holding up the Infrastructure solo bill which ALREADY passed the Senate they’re going to ruin the best physical development plan since the Civilian Conservation Corps. It needs to get done but if they listen to AOC on this they’re going to end up like her district - out the largest multi-billion investment package in Bronx history because she didn’t like the terms.


Like I said. Sinking. Ship.



Nah, that "infrastructure" bill is filled with rural giveaways. Why should we pay to bail out Texas' lack of investment in their electricity infrastructure?
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Anonymous wrote:What does Trump have to do with anything?

Yes, we know Biden is better than Trump. So what? Is that all he has to offer? Can we raise the bar a little higher than "well is he better than Trump?"

Why does every counter point on this site have to start with "well Trump..." enough with this

The bar is so much higher already. OP’s trolling and doesn't want to admit that the $3.5 trillion is INSANELY popular with people. We’re so far behind where we ought to be, and this will help us catch up. The GOP does not want us to catch up.

“It’s bloated! It’s not paid for!” Oh my god, so bloated, look at all this unnecessary spending nonsense! Like evening up the playing field for education! Address the forest fires that blanketed the entire country with smoke this summer! They’re even addressing housing? No, say it isn’t so, I love knowing that vets, the mentally ill and my children’s classmates are living on the streets!
“-726 billion for the Health, Labor, Education and Pensions Committee with expansive instructions to address some of Democrats' top priorities. Those areas include universal pre-K for 3- and 4-year-olds, child care for working families, tuition-free community college, funding for historically black colleges and universities and an expansion of the Pell Grant for higher education.
-$107 billion for the Judiciary Committee, including instructions to address "lawful permanent status for qualified immigrants."
-$135 billion for the Committee on Agriculture Nutrition and Forestry, including instructions to address forest fires, reduce carbon emissions and address drought concerns.
-$332 billion for the Banking Committee, including instructions to invest in public housing, the Housing Trust Fund, housing affordability and equity and community land trusts.
-$198 billion for the Energy and Natural Resources Committee, including instructions largely related to clean energy development.” https://www.npr.org/2021/08/09/1026055615/senate-democrats-release-3-5t-budget-framework That article also goes on to say that the Democrats are having to go it alone. Why? Because the GOP is a bunch of sociopaths.

This could be paid for if we could get the IRS the money it needs for enforcement.

But it won’t be because the GOP is actively rooting for the US to fail.


At some point you're going to have to understand that just because you think something is a good idea or should be priority doesn't mean that others do. Not even other democrats.


Agreed.

Also if the Squad doesn’t stop holding up the Infrastructure solo bill which ALREADY passed the Senate they’re going to ruin the best physical development plan since the Civilian Conservation Corps. It needs to get done but if they listen to AOC on this they’re going to end up like her district - out the largest multi-billion investment package in Bronx history because she didn’t like the terms.


Like I said. Sinking. Ship.



Nah, that "infrastructure" bill is filled with rural giveaways. Why should we pay to bail out Texas' lack of investment in their electricity infrastructure?


Physical infrastructure for the whole of the country is kind of the point. Bill is already written and passed in Senate. Will be rubber stamped in the House.

It’s also a third of the cost of the bill that hasn’t even been finished it’s being shackled to.

Stop with the bullshit.
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C'mon man. Give Joe a break. He just got back from his vacation. He needs his downtime.

Presidenting is hard work. I'm not joking. Give him a few days to recover from the bike rides and ice cream.
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Anonymous wrote:What does Trump have to do with anything?

Yes, we know Biden is better than Trump. So what? Is that all he has to offer? Can we raise the bar a little higher than "well is he better than Trump?"

Why does every counter point on this site have to start with "well Trump..." enough with this

The bar is so much higher already. OP’s trolling and doesn't want to admit that the $3.5 trillion is INSANELY popular with people. We’re so far behind where we ought to be, and this will help us catch up. The GOP does not want us to catch up.

“It’s bloated! It’s not paid for!” Oh my god, so bloated, look at all this unnecessary spending nonsense! Like evening up the playing field for education! Address the forest fires that blanketed the entire country with smoke this summer! They’re even addressing housing? No, say it isn’t so, I love knowing that vets, the mentally ill and my children’s classmates are living on the streets!
“-726 billion for the Health, Labor, Education and Pensions Committee with expansive instructions to address some of Democrats' top priorities. Those areas include universal pre-K for 3- and 4-year-olds, child care for working families, tuition-free community college, funding for historically black colleges and universities and an expansion of the Pell Grant for higher education.
-$107 billion for the Judiciary Committee, including instructions to address "lawful permanent status for qualified immigrants."
-$135 billion for the Committee on Agriculture Nutrition and Forestry, including instructions to address forest fires, reduce carbon emissions and address drought concerns.
-$332 billion for the Banking Committee, including instructions to invest in public housing, the Housing Trust Fund, housing affordability and equity and community land trusts.
-$198 billion for the Energy and Natural Resources Committee, including instructions largely related to clean energy development.” https://www.npr.org/2021/08/09/1026055615/senate-democrats-release-3-5t-budget-framework That article also goes on to say that the Democrats are having to go it alone. Why? Because the GOP is a bunch of sociopaths.

This could be paid for if we could get the IRS the money it needs for enforcement.

But it won’t be because the GOP is actively rooting for the US to fail.


At some point you're going to have to understand that just because you think something is a good idea or should be priority doesn't mean that others do. Not even other democrats.


Agreed.

Also if the Squad doesn’t stop holding up the Infrastructure solo bill which ALREADY passed the Senate they’re going to ruin the best physical development plan since the Civilian Conservation Corps. It needs to get done but if they listen to AOC on this they’re going to end up like her district - out the largest multi-billion investment package in Bronx history because she didn’t like the terms.


Like I said. Sinking. Ship.



Looks like AOC is a tad bit jealous of the power that Manchin has and wants some of her own.
LOL. She'll never get it.
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Anonymous wrote:C'mon man. Give Joe a break. He just got back from his vacation. He needs his downtime.

Presidenting is hard work. I'm not joking. Give him a few days to recover from the bike rides and ice cream.


Biden promised Infrastructure. It’s done. If the progressives weren’t tying it to a bill that can’t pass - we would have an official ground breaking ceremony for a new transportation hub with Pete over a month ago.

Also why the f didn’t they put my high speed rail system in there?

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Why do two votes? Just bundle these two bills together in omnibus legislation. Put up or shut up.

Nancy and Chuck still have this ace up their sleeve. They can force the Senate to re-vote on an omnibus reconciliation package.
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Anonymous wrote:Why do two votes? Just bundle these two bills together in omnibus legislation. Put up or shut up.

Nancy and Chuck still have this ace up their sleeve. They can force the Senate to re-vote on an omnibus reconciliation package.


And, it won't pass.
I hope they do it though. We can then say,.... "Told you so."
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Anonymous wrote:Why do two votes? Just bundle these two bills together in omnibus legislation. Put up or shut up.

Nancy and Chuck still have this ace up their sleeve. They can force the Senate to re-vote on an omnibus reconciliation package.


Because it will never pass as a Omni and they still have the f**king debt ceiling to deal with.

One of the bills has already sailed through. Move on, avert the impending government shutdown and pass infrastructure.
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Anonymous wrote:Why do two votes? Just bundle these two bills together in omnibus legislation. Put up or shut up.

Nancy and Chuck still have this ace up their sleeve. They can force the Senate to re-vote on an omnibus reconciliation package.


And, it won't pass.
I hope they do it though. We can then say,.... "Told you so."


Why would you sacrifice a Democrat packaged Infrastructure bill for ‘Told you so’?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do two votes? Just bundle these two bills together in omnibus legislation. Put up or shut up.

Nancy and Chuck still have this ace up their sleeve. They can force the Senate to re-vote on an omnibus reconciliation package.


And, it won't pass.
I hope they do it though. We can then say,.... "Told you so."


Why would you sacrifice a Democrat packaged Infrastructure bill for ‘Told you so’?


not only that. this is infrastructure the country needs (not just dems). Our bridges are literally crumbling.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do two votes? Just bundle these two bills together in omnibus legislation. Put up or shut up.

Nancy and Chuck still have this ace up their sleeve. They can force the Senate to re-vote on an omnibus reconciliation package.


And, it won't pass.
I hope they do it though. We can then say,.... "Told you so."


Why would you sacrifice a Democrat packaged Infrastructure bill for ‘Told you so’?


not only that. this is infrastructure the country needs (not just dems). Our bridges are literally crumbling.


Clearly the progressives don't consider it urgent.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do two votes? Just bundle these two bills together in omnibus legislation. Put up or shut up.

Nancy and Chuck still have this ace up their sleeve. They can force the Senate to re-vote on an omnibus reconciliation package.


And, it won't pass.
I hope they do it though. We can then say,.... "Told you so."


Why would you sacrifice a Democrat packaged Infrastructure bill for ‘Told you so’?


not only that. this is infrastructure the country needs (not just dems). Our bridges are literally crumbling.


Clearly the progressives don't consider it urgent.


This will expose them as the hypocritical nutters that they are.
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Sorry OP, Biden couldn't fix a sandwich, let alone all of the problem that he has allowed his handlers to create.
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