Biden needs to lead...NOW!

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry OP, Biden couldn't fix a sandwich, let alone all of the problem that he has allowed his handlers to create.

His handlers didn't create this. Where was the infrastructure package in 2017 and 2018 when the GOP controlled everything?

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Anonymous wrote:What does Trump have to do with anything?

Yes, we know Biden is better than Trump. So what? Is that all he has to offer? Can we raise the bar a little higher than "well is he better than Trump?"

Why does every counter point on this site have to start with "well Trump..." enough with this

The bar is so much higher already. OP’s trolling and doesn't want to admit that the $3.5 trillion is INSANELY popular with people. We’re so far behind where we ought to be, and this will help us catch up. The GOP does not want us to catch up.

“It’s bloated! It’s not paid for!” Oh my god, so bloated, look at all this unnecessary spending nonsense! Like evening up the playing field for education! Address the forest fires that blanketed the entire country with smoke this summer! They’re even addressing housing? No, say it isn’t so, I love knowing that vets, the mentally ill and my children’s classmates are living on the streets!
“-726 billion for the Health, Labor, Education and Pensions Committee with expansive instructions to address some of Democrats' top priorities. Those areas include universal pre-K for 3- and 4-year-olds, child care for working families, tuition-free community college, funding for historically black colleges and universities and an expansion of the Pell Grant for higher education.
-$107 billion for the Judiciary Committee, including instructions to address "lawful permanent status for qualified immigrants."
-$135 billion for the Committee on Agriculture Nutrition and Forestry, including instructions to address forest fires, reduce carbon emissions and address drought concerns.
-$332 billion for the Banking Committee, including instructions to invest in public housing, the Housing Trust Fund, housing affordability and equity and community land trusts.
-$198 billion for the Energy and Natural Resources Committee, including instructions largely related to clean energy development.” https://www.npr.org/2021/08/09/1026055615/senate-democrats-release-3-5t-budget-framework That article also goes on to say that the Democrats are having to go it alone. Why? Because the GOP is a bunch of sociopaths.

This could be paid for if we could get the IRS the money it needs for enforcement.

But it won’t be because the GOP is actively rooting for the US to fail.

At some point you're going to have to understand that just because you think something is a good idea or should be priority doesn't mean that others do. Not even other democrats.

Agreed.

Also if the Squad doesn’t stop holding up the Infrastructure solo bill which ALREADY passed the Senate they’re going to ruin the best physical development plan since the Civilian Conservation Corps. It needs to get done but if they listen to AOC on this they’re going to end up like her district - out the largest multi-billion investment package in Bronx history because she didn’t like the terms.

Like I said. Sinking. Ship.

Nah, that "infrastructure" bill is filled with rural giveaways. Why should we pay to bail out Texas' lack of investment in their electricity infrastructure?

Physical infrastructure for the whole of the country is kind of the point. Bill is already written and passed in Senate. Will be rubber stamped in the House.

It’s also a third of the cost of the bill that hasn’t even been finished it’s being shackled to.

Stop with the bullshit.

And it almost entirely benefits OTHER parts of the country. The stuff that benefits urban progressive voters was shunted off into the reconcilliation bill. They aren't going to just fold up and surrender. The bills were always linked and both sides have been clear about this from the beginning. Manchin/Sinema and AOC et al are both doing this. The only difference is that the AOC group isn't trying to pull a fast one and backstab the other side.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do two votes? Just bundle these two bills together in omnibus legislation. Put up or shut up.

Nancy and Chuck still have this ace up their sleeve. They can force the Senate to re-vote on an omnibus reconciliation package.

And, it won't pass.
I hope they do it though. We can then say,.... "Told you so."

Why would you sacrifice a Democrat packaged Infrastructure bill for ‘Told you so’?

not only that. this is infrastructure the country needs (not just dems). Our bridges are literally crumbling.

Of course a narrow bill to fix the bridges would pass easily... that is why it has to stay bundled to all the unrelated crap... so people can keep talking about "bridges."

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Anonymous wrote:What does Trump have to do with anything?

Yes, we know Biden is better than Trump. So what? Is that all he has to offer? Can we raise the bar a little higher than "well is he better than Trump?"

Why does every counter point on this site have to start with "well Trump..." enough with this

The bar is so much higher already. OP’s trolling and doesn't want to admit that the $3.5 trillion is INSANELY popular with people. We’re so far behind where we ought to be, and this will help us catch up. The GOP does not want us to catch up.

“It’s bloated! It’s not paid for!” Oh my god, so bloated, look at all this unnecessary spending nonsense! Like evening up the playing field for education! Address the forest fires that blanketed the entire country with smoke this summer! They’re even addressing housing? No, say it isn’t so, I love knowing that vets, the mentally ill and my children’s classmates are living on the streets!
“-726 billion for the Health, Labor, Education and Pensions Committee with expansive instructions to address some of Democrats' top priorities. Those areas include universal pre-K for 3- and 4-year-olds, child care for working families, tuition-free community college, funding for historically black colleges and universities and an expansion of the Pell Grant for higher education.
-$107 billion for the Judiciary Committee, including instructions to address "lawful permanent status for qualified immigrants."
-$135 billion for the Committee on Agriculture Nutrition and Forestry, including instructions to address forest fires, reduce carbon emissions and address drought concerns.
-$332 billion for the Banking Committee, including instructions to invest in public housing, the Housing Trust Fund, housing affordability and equity and community land trusts.
-$198 billion for the Energy and Natural Resources Committee, including instructions largely related to clean energy development.” https://www.npr.org/2021/08/09/1026055615/senate-democrats-release-3-5t-budget-framework That article also goes on to say that the Democrats are having to go it alone. Why? Because the GOP is a bunch of sociopaths.

This could be paid for if we could get the IRS the money it needs for enforcement.

But it won’t be because the GOP is actively rooting for the US to fail.

At some point you're going to have to understand that just because you think something is a good idea or should be priority doesn't mean that others do. Not even other democrats.

Agreed.

Also if the Squad doesn’t stop holding up the Infrastructure solo bill which ALREADY passed the Senate they’re going to ruin the best physical development plan since the Civilian Conservation Corps. It needs to get done but if they listen to AOC on this they’re going to end up like her district - out the largest multi-billion investment package in Bronx history because she didn’t like the terms.

Like I said. Sinking. Ship.

Nah, that "infrastructure" bill is filled with rural giveaways. Why should we pay to bail out Texas' lack of investment in their electricity infrastructure?

Physical infrastructure for the whole of the country is kind of the point. Bill is already written and passed in Senate. Will be rubber stamped in the House.

It’s also a third of the cost of the bill that hasn’t even been finished it’s being shackled to.

Stop with the bullshit.

And it almost entirely benefits OTHER parts of the country. The stuff that benefits urban progressive voters was shunted off into the reconcilliation bill. They aren't going to just fold up and surrender. The bills were always linked and both sides have been clear about this from the beginning. Manchin/Sinema and AOC et al are both doing this. The only difference is that the AOC group isn't trying to pull a fast one and backstab the other side.

Just because Nancy said this, that doesn't mean that everyone agreed to it. In fact, there was plenty of push back about them being linked.

Moral: Nancy doesn't always get what she wants.

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Except the dems control both houses of the Congress and both the House Speaker and the Senate Majority Leader agreed to it, so yes, they were always going to be linked.

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Question for the budget hawks here, which bill has a greater negative impact on US debt and deficit, the unfunded $1.5Trillion dollar tax cut or the mostly funded $3.5T spending bill?

Answer, the debt exploded by $8T over the last 4 years. The Biden Bill is expected to be revenue neutral.

So, let's stop with the nonsense, please.

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Anonymous wrote:CBS reporter:

The markets are impacted by Chinese property values carshing, not US policy;
The French are mad because the Aussies ditched a meh deal to make a deal with the US & UK as part of major new defense pact - this is MAJOR new jobs for US, that is a good thing, right?;
Haitians fleeing hurricane damage and political instability;
Democrats are working through huge pieces of legislation on FDR-scale


But sure, try to take the negative view to generate clicks.

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When I read the subject line I involuntarily laughed with an immediate thought that if he all to often needs someone giving him directions to the next room how can he lead.

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Corporate lobbyists are terrified of an agenda that lowers drug costs, funds childcare and taxes corporations. So they are paying a few conservative Democrats to torpedo Biden's entire agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:Corporate lobbyists are terrified of an agenda that lowers drug costs, funds childcare and taxes corporations. So they are paying a few conservative Democrats to torpedo Biden's entire agenda.

why wouldnt they want to fund child care? that would benefit employers too

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Anonymous wrote:Corporate lobbyists are terrified of an agenda that lowers drug costs, funds childcare and taxes corporations. So they are paying a few conservative Democrats to torpedo Biden's entire agenda.

why wouldnt they want to fund child care? that would benefit employers too

I think the corporations enjoy people being afraid and immobile. They enjoy being able to turn the screws to their employees and making them stay in situations in which they’re underpaid and overworked.

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Anonymous wrote:Corporate lobbyists are terrified of an agenda that lowers drug costs, funds childcare and taxes corporations. So they are paying a few conservative Democrats to torpedo Biden's entire agenda.

why wouldnt they want to fund child care? that would benefit employers too

Because it requires higher taxes on the wealthiest households to fund the benefit.

Another interesting wrinkle is that the package would create a progressive corporate tax rate. This scares the sh#t out of lobbyists and AmCham, since a single corporate tax rate ensures that the business community speaks with one voice. If you give small biz a corporate tax break, while big corporations pay a higher rate, you start creating wedges in the business community that dilutes their voices.

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Anonymous wrote:Lifelong Democrat who voted for Biden in 2020, but is growing more and more concerned about his lack of leadership so far.

Congressional Democrats are fractured. Progressives are threatening to torpedo the infrastructure bill. Moderates are threatening to torpedo the budget reconciliation bill. Biden is nowhere to be seen. He's neither leading nor deputizing someone to lead his domestic policy agenda. He's doing nothing to unite the factions within his own party behind him. His absence has Democrats tearing into each other while Republicans gleefully stand on the sidelines.

Meanwhile, everything that could go wrong internationally is practically going wrong: The botched exit from Afghanistan, the recent drone strike that killed innocent civilians in Kabul, the botched diplomacy with France over building submarines for Australia, and the Haitian refugee crisis on the border and mass deportation of Haitians back to Haiti, even though a substantial number of people journeyed to the border from somewhere else.

And where is Kamala Harris? After Biden's inauguration she was seen with him in practically every meeting. Now the Vice President appears to be, umm...flipping coins at football games and planning to go on The View. What gives? Did Biden distance himself from Harris after her own political debacles earlier this year? Is Harris distancing herself from Biden? Regardless, a wedge has formed between the President and VP at a very inopportune time.

Biden spoke all about unity during the Inauguration. He's failing spectacularly. Forget about unity with Republicans and conservatives. He needs to start unifying the Democrats...right now. Otherwise, the party is going to take a shellacking next year when they have nothing to show voters after being in power.

I don't know how people missed that he was wasn't mentally up to the task during the election. I didn't like Trumps comments and toward the end with his Mike Pence comment. Or his lack of losing gracefully. However, he was at least a good leader in terms of the border and economics. He would have gotten the people out of Kabul first then the military last. So much failure in such a short time. I too was hoping more for Biden, but he's proving to be a true failure.

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Lack of losing gracefully, LOL.

That is putting traitorous sedition mildly.

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I don't know how people missed that he was wasn't mentally up to the task during the election. I didn't like Trumps comments and toward the end with his Mike Pence comment. Or his lack of losing gracefully. However, he was at least a good leader in terms of the border and economics. He would have gotten the people out of Kabul first then the military last. So much failure in such a short time. I too was hoping more for Biden, but he's proving to be a true failure.

the border wall is literally falling apart and down
the economy was in a total shambles when he left office.

But ya, he was great.