Biden needs to lead...NOW!

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Anonymous wrote:What does Trump have to do with anything?

Yes, we know Biden is better than Trump. So what? Is that all he has to offer? Can we raise the bar a little higher than "well is he better than Trump?"

Why does every counter point on this site have to start with "well Trump..." enough with this

The bar is so much higher already. OP’s trolling and doesn't want to admit that the $3.5 trillion is INSANELY popular with people. We’re so far behind where we ought to be, and this will help us catch up. The GOP does not want us to catch up.

“It’s bloated! It’s not paid for!” Oh my god, so bloated, look at all this unnecessary spending nonsense! Like evening up the playing field for education! Address the forest fires that blanketed the entire country with smoke this summer! They’re even addressing housing? No, say it isn’t so, I love knowing that vets, the mentally ill and my children’s classmates are living on the streets!
“-726 billion for the Health, Labor, Education and Pensions Committee with expansive instructions to address some of Democrats' top priorities. Those areas include universal pre-K for 3- and 4-year-olds, child care for working families, tuition-free community college, funding for historically black colleges and universities and an expansion of the Pell Grant for higher education.
-$107 billion for the Judiciary Committee, including instructions to address "lawful permanent status for qualified immigrants."
-$135 billion for the Committee on Agriculture Nutrition and Forestry, including instructions to address forest fires, reduce carbon emissions and address drought concerns.
-$332 billion for the Banking Committee, including instructions to invest in public housing, the Housing Trust Fund, housing affordability and equity and community land trusts.
-$198 billion for the Energy and Natural Resources Committee, including instructions largely related to clean energy development.” https://www.npr.org/2021/08/09/1026055615/senate-democrats-release-3-5t-budget-framework That article also goes on to say that the Democrats are having to go it alone. Why? Because the GOP is a bunch of sociopaths.

This could be paid for if we could get the IRS the money it needs for enforcement.

But it won’t be because the GOP is actively rooting for the US to fail.

At some point you're going to have to understand that just because you think something is a good idea or should be priority doesn't mean that others do. Not even other democrats.

At some point you’re going to have to realize that polls show that it’s a great idea and a priority for most of Americans. Even some Republicans.

Please post those polls.

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No! Lifting mask mandates when a new variant from a highly populated country was emerging was NOT fine. I remember Fauci on TV at the beginning of June saying that he was concerned about the new variant in India and that was around the time that they stopped pushing the mask mandates and states let people who claimed to be vaccinated go mask-free.

Nevermind the fact that the vaccine doesn't stop you from getting the virus, kids under 12 still don't have approval to get the vaccine and everyone is out and about in the hot summer months.

This was handled terribly.

If people had continued to get vaccinated at the same daily rates in May, June and July as had happened in March and April, then the impacts of Delta would have been far less. But, since that didn't happen - to no fault of Biden, then it is what it is. Sadly, the number of GOP dying is disproportionate to the US population. Oh well.

In the same way you don't use one strategy to get us out of the pandemic, we should not have just relied on vaccinations alone. masks are effective, along with distancing and hand washing. All of those things should have stayed firmly in place until this thing was actually under control. And again - kids under 12 could not be vaccinated and as of today, still can't.

About that distancing......

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Anonymous wrote:It's sad when someone raises legitimate concerns about her party and her party's leadership (all for the sake of her party), she's immediately doubted or called a troll.

Troll or no troll - some Dems don’t want to spend $3.5 trillion on that bloated bill. Pass Infrastructure alone - which they could have done weeks ago - and stop hanging us up.

It's not about infrastructure or they would. Infrastructure is the cover for a bunch of crap the people would not accept, not even Democrats. So they bury it and use the "don't you want infrastructure" line as a club.

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Anonymous wrote:It's sad when someone raises legitimate concerns about her party and her party's leadership (all for the sake of her party), she's immediately doubted or called a troll.

Troll or no troll - some Dems don’t want to spend $3.5 trillion on that bloated bill. Pass Infrastructure alone - which they could have done weeks ago - and stop hanging us up.

What is bloated about it? Be specific.

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Scott Gottlieb did a bang up job as head of CDC and should be listened to and respected.

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Please post those polls.

DP, but since you asked

and Fox News

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's sad when someone raises legitimate concerns about her party and her party's leadership (all for the sake of her party), she's immediately doubted or called a troll.

Troll or no troll - some Dems don’t want to spend $3.5 trillion on that bloated bill. Pass Infrastructure alone - which they could have done weeks ago - and stop hanging us up.

What is bloated about it? Be specific.

The below points that amount to $2.6 trillion - to be specific.

$1.8 trillion for the Finance Committee. This part of the bill is for investments in working families, the elderly, and the environment. It includes a tax cut for Americans making less than $400,000 a year, lowering the price of prescription drugs, and ensuring the wealthy and large corporations pay their fair share of taxes.

$726 billion for the Health, Labor, Education, and Pensions Committee. This addresses universal pre-K for 3- and 4-year-olds, childcare for working families, tuition-free community college, funding for historically black colleges and universities, and an expansion of the Pell Grant for higher education.

$107 billion for the Judiciary Committee. These funds address establishing "lawful permanent status for qualified immigrants."

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I am still amazed at how they put $1.8 trillion into that bill and didn’t define what it was for - how exactly the Finance committee intends to spend it.

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Anonymous wrote:It's sad when someone raises legitimate concerns about her party and her party's leadership (all for the sake of her party), she's immediately doubted or called a troll.

Troll or no troll - some Dems don’t want to spend $3.5 trillion on that bloated bill. Pass Infrastructure alone - which they could have done weeks ago - and stop hanging us up.

What is bloated about it? Be specific.

Dem here and I don’t see this bill as bloated. If anything, it’s addressing long-overdue issues like pre K and healthcare. When are we going to keep up with the rest of the developed world in terms of the way we invest in infrastructure, education, and health?

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Anonymous wrote:It's sad when someone raises legitimate concerns about her party and her party's leadership (all for the sake of her party), she's immediately doubted or called a troll.

Troll or no troll - some Dems don’t want to spend $3.5 trillion on that bloated bill. Pass Infrastructure alone - which they could have done weeks ago - and stop hanging us up.

What is bloated about it? Be specific.

Dem here and I don’t see this bill as bloated. If anything, it’s addressing long-overdue issues like pre K and healthcare. When are we going to keep up with the rest of the developed world in terms of the way we invest in infrastructure, education, and health?

If you want those issues addressed put a separate bill to vote in health and education but do not tie it to Infrastructure. It’s sinking our Infrastructure bill which would be the greatest victory in a century.

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Please post those polls.

DP, but since you asked

and Fox News

Voters in 12 states = most Americans?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What does Trump have to do with anything?

Yes, we know Biden is better than Trump. So what? Is that all he has to offer? Can we raise the bar a little higher than "well is he better than Trump?"

Why does every counter point on this site have to start with "well Trump..." enough with this

The bar is so much higher already. OP’s trolling and doesn't want to admit that the $3.5 trillion is INSANELY popular with people. We’re so far behind where we ought to be, and this will help us catch up. The GOP does not want us to catch up.

“It’s bloated! It’s not paid for!” Oh my god, so bloated, look at all this unnecessary spending nonsense! Like evening up the playing field for education! Address the forest fires that blanketed the entire country with smoke this summer! They’re even addressing housing? No, say it isn’t so, I love knowing that vets, the mentally ill and my children’s classmates are living on the streets!
“-726 billion for the Health, Labor, Education and Pensions Committee with expansive instructions to address some of Democrats' top priorities. Those areas include universal pre-K for 3- and 4-year-olds, child care for working families, tuition-free community college, funding for historically black colleges and universities and an expansion of the Pell Grant for higher education.
-$107 billion for the Judiciary Committee, including instructions to address "lawful permanent status for qualified immigrants."
-$135 billion for the Committee on Agriculture Nutrition and Forestry, including instructions to address forest fires, reduce carbon emissions and address drought concerns.
-$332 billion for the Banking Committee, including instructions to invest in public housing, the Housing Trust Fund, housing affordability and equity and community land trusts.
-$198 billion for the Energy and Natural Resources Committee, including instructions largely related to clean energy development.” https://www.npr.org/2021/08/09/1026055615/senate-democrats-release-3-5t-budget-framework That article also goes on to say that the Democrats are having to go it alone. Why? Because the GOP is a bunch of sociopaths.

This could be paid for if we could get the IRS the money it needs for enforcement.

But it won’t be because the GOP is actively rooting for the US to fail.

At some point you're going to have to understand that just because you think something is a good idea or should be priority doesn't mean that others do. Not even other democrats.

Agreed.

Also if the Squad doesn’t stop holding up the Infrastructure solo bill which ALREADY passed the Senate they’re going to ruin the best physical development plan since the Civilian Conservation Corps. It needs to get done but if they listen to AOC on this they’re going to end up like her district - out the largest multi-billion investment package in Bronx history because she didn’t like the terms.

Like I said. Sinking. Ship.

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The Infrastructure bill has already passed the Senate. With GOP support, and that’s not hard since they like it, it’ll easily pass House even without the Squad. Can we move on - they need to drop Build Back Better and come up with a leaner proposal later.

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Anonymous wrote:I am still amazed at how they put $1.8 trillion into that bill and didn’t define what it was for - how exactly the Finance committee intends to spend it.

That's because they are in the process of writing the bill still. Those are just the parameters for the cmtes to write language not the actual bill itself.

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Anonymous wrote:I am still amazed at how they put $1.8 trillion into that bill and didn’t define what it was for - how exactly the Finance committee intends to spend it.

That's because they are in the process of writing the bill still. Those are just the parameters for the cmtes to write language not the actual bill itself.

So they want a $3.5 trillion bloated bill to pass the House and the Senate in exactly 7 days and they haven’t even written the bill yet?

Do you get how ludicrous that sounds?