Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:The only photos of the supposed ‘trans’ roommate are of a guy wearing a onesie. Is this all they have?


I know! when will the police and fbi release everything to the public? Monday? [/quote
This article says that it was confirmed by the FBI officials that are interviewing his transsexual partner

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trans-roommate-tyler-james-robinson-213501931.html

All this article is is whatever the Dallas Express is republishing the hack Brooke Singman’s “exclusive” for Fox News.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Turning Points is done completely, but without their main figure, they certainly won’t be putting out as much content anymore. Didn’t they sponsor a big meeting/convention every year? I’m sure that will continue, but stuff like the super high profile college visits are going to have to stop for now.


Who is their financial backer anyway ? I'm surprised left leaning sleuths haven't explored this route . A community college drop out doesn't get funding for his hate-filled factory out of thin air .



People keep making this claim, that he was filled. Where is this coming from? All of the clips that I have seen of him uttering “hate filled” comments are obviously taken way out of context when you watch the full videos that the clips they were taken from.


What context will make these quotes not hateful, racist?

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024

If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024

I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.
– Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023

America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025

There is more here in case you need more examples: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs


There is data and studies out on unqualified dei hire’s grades, tests scores, performance, lawsuits. Same with unskilled, uneducated, illiterate illegal immigrants. Same with handgun deaths in every country.

Data and peer reviewed studies are out there. And they’re not OpEds or XYZ Studies surveys or opinion papers.


Why is it so hard to understand that when people assume if you’re black you’re not qualified?


What, their lived experiences?


Most MAGA aren't qualified for $hit


But sure, they "know"


At some age or IQ or common sense level yes, you can identify when someone is doing their job well or not. Whether it be a McD’s service worker, construction person, advisor, teacher or doctor. Half the time their attitude and speaking ability demonstrates their ability level ahead of time.


Well you must be educated MAGA

The loonies being interviewed on FOX, not so much
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Turning Points is done completely, but without their main figure, they certainly won’t be putting out as much content anymore. Didn’t they sponsor a big meeting/convention every year? I’m sure that will continue, but stuff like the super high profile college visits are going to have to stop for now.


Who is their financial backer anyway ? I'm surprised left leaning sleuths haven't explored this route . A community college drop out doesn't get funding for his hate-filled factory out of thin air .



People keep making this claim, that he was filled. Where is this coming from? All of the clips that I have seen of him uttering “hate filled” comments are obviously taken way out of context when you watch the full videos that the clips they were taken from.


What context will make these quotes not hateful, racist?

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024

If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024

I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.
– Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023

America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025

There is more here in case you need more examples: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs



I’ll address the first and third quotes since those are the ones I am familiar with. The comment about the black pilot was from a larger discussion about how one of the drawbacks of DEI is that it places doubt as to whether accomplished Black people got to their positions due to DEI and how that doubt hurts them. If you watch the entire clip he is definitely not saying that he thinks that Black people are inherently unqualified to be pilots.

As far as the widely quoted statement as to how he thought a certain number of gun deaths was an unfortunate cost to having the second amendment…. As someone who hates guns and would like to see them banned, I get what he was saying. He feels the second amendment is so important that the fact that a certain number of innocent people will die is something that needs to be tolerated. I mean don’t all of us share this opinion on some topics? The thing could be said for driving cars. Obviously a certain number of people are going to die in car accidents due to allowing cars on tje road, but the greater benefit to society is worth it.


Thank you, we will


The car Seth vs gun death is such a stupid argument. We are constantly trying to make cars safer. Air bags, crumple zones, warning systems, anti lock brakes etc are making cars safer. Engineers are dedicated to this. We don’t just accept deaths, we try to make cars safer. Guns are just for killing, they aren’t made safer. They can be around for 100 years and still kill. We can’t even regulate trigger id finger prints because we aren’t allowed this is a stupid argument meant to mislead us into thinking we need to accept people dying
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(Warning: long rant)

My liberal friends are completely oblivious about how radicalizing the last week has been for tens of millions of normal Americans. Zero clue.

I’m not talking about people who are “online”; I mean regular, everyday Americans. “Normies.” People who scroll through Facebook posts and Instagram reels from the Dutch Bros drive thru line. Political moderates who have water cooler chats about Mahomes touchdowns and Bon Jovi concerts, not Twitter threads or Rachel Maddow monologues.

Millions of them. Tens of millions. They’re logging on, they’re engaging, and they’re furious.

And I’ll be candid: They blame you guys. They blame the left.

Regardless of whether you believe it to be justified, they think you’re the bad guys here. And they are reacting accordingly.

I can already hear some of you racing toward the comments to start screeching in moral indignation, so I’m going to be blunt: Shut up and listen to what I’m telling you. Your movement will lose any semblance of relevance if you don’t develop some small measure of self-awareness, and—absent someone force-feeding you bitter medicine—you guys collectively lack the humility to do this on your own.

Here are the facts:

Fact 1. Tens of millions of Americans started the week seeing a 23-year-old blonde woman—a young woman in whom virtually every parent watching pictured their own daughter—stabbed in the neck by a career criminal. These people then found out the murderer had been released from jail 14 times over.

Fact 2. Two days later, tens of millions of Americans watched a video of Charlie Kirk get murdered speaking to college students. Millions of these people knew who Charlie was; millions of them didn’t. Upon seeing the video, however, these normal Americans from across the land and across the political spectrum agreed that he was the victim of a terrible, fundamentally unjustifiable crime, and their hearts broke in sympathy for his family. Good people who had never even heard the name Charlie Kirk before wept.

Fact 3. Immediately after seeing the footage of a peaceful young man get shot in the neck, these same people logged onto Facebook and Instagram (remember, we are talking about regular Americans, not perpetually online Twitter or Bluesky users) and saw some of their local nurses, school teachers, college administrators, and retail workers celebrating this horrific crime. Not just defending it, but cheering it.

These are all facts. You may not like the implications of these facts, and we can certainly debate the underlying causes thereof, but, indisputably, they are nevertheless factual statements.

Here’s what it means for you, the Democrats reading this:

These normal, middle-of-the-road, non-political citizens just become politically active. They realized that politics cares about them, even if they don’t particularly care about politics. After watching Iryna Zarutska and Charlie Kirk both bleed out from the neck, they think their lives and the physical safety of their families—the bedrock of human society, the foundation of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs—depend on political activation, whether they desire it or not.

These people are now sprinting—not jogging, not walking, but racing—to the right. Because they blame you guys for everything that just happened.

When they see footage of Decarlos Brown stabbing a Ukrainian refugee to death, they don’t see just one demon-possessed man. They picture every university administrator, HR bureaucrat, and DEI apparatchik that ever lectured them about systemic racism, the “carceral state,” or the need to release violent crime suspects without bail in the name of social justice.

They then think back to conversations they’ve had with their cop friends—their buddy from high school who quit the force after getting tired of being called a racist, their friend at the local YMCA who vents about having to release career criminals because Soros-funded prosecutors aren’t willing to file charges—and they realize everything the left has told them over the last five years has been utter bullshit.

And they blame you. Because, even if you count yourself as a moderate Democrat, your party supported the district attorneys, city council members, and mayors that let fictitious concerns about mental health and racial justice supersede very real concerns for their family’s safety.

When these Americans see blood erupt from the side of Charlie Kirk’s neck, they don’t see just a martyred political activist. They think of every extreme leftist they’ve ever met who (1) calls anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton a fascist and (2) constantly jokes—“jokes”—about punching Nazis and “bashing the fash.”

They realize that there really do exist people who wish to see them dead for their moderately conservative political beliefs, their Christian faith, and even the color of their skin. They ask themselves if the violence visited upon Charlie might one day show up on their own doorstep.

And they blame you. Because, even if you’re just a center-of-the-road liberal, you lacked the courage to police your own ranks. You let modern-day Maoist red guards run loose across every facet of society, and what started with social-media struggle sessions has now turned to 30-06 bullet holes.

When these Americans log onto social media and see their neighbors justifying, celebrating, glorifying murder, they realize that some who walk among them are soulless ghouls at best, literally demon-possessed at worst. These people—whether they faithfully attend church every Sunday or only attend with relatives once a year, on Christmas Eve—start talking about things like spiritual warfare. They implicitly understand that no normal human casually celebrates the mortal demise of a peaceful person.

And they blame you. Because, even if you condemned Charlie Kirk’s murder, they probably haven’t seen you condemn those in your own movement who cheered it on. They view you as complicit in allowing heartless fellow travelers to celebrate death, and it repulses them.

For all of these situations, what has your response been? Nothing but bullshit.

In response to Iryna Zarutska bleeding out on the floor of a train, you post bullshit statistics about reductions in reported crime, when everyone who’s ever been to a major urban center in the last decade knows that actual crime has skyrocketed, only for victims not to waste their time reporting it to cops that don’t have the manpower to respond and prosecutors that seek to downgrade as many felonies as possible to misdemeanor citations.

In response to a 31-year-old man taking a bullet to the neck in front of his family, you post nothing but bullshit whataboutism.

> “What about January 6th?” (Honest answer: After you let Liz Cheney spend two years operating a star chamber in the House, combined with countless other failed attempts at “lawfare” against Trump, no one cares anymore.)

> “What about Mike Lee making a dumb joke on Twitter about some guy in a mask in Minnesota?” (No one outside of Utah, DC, or Twitter knows who Mike Lee even is.)

> “What about Paul Pelosi?” (That’s not comparable to Charlie Kirk getting shot, and we all know it. And, again, Paul who?)

> “What about regulations on assault rifles?” (That’s not going to get you very far when one of these killers used a knife and the other one used a common hunting rifle.)

In response to teachers, healthcare workers, and thousands of other liberals cheering on Charlie’s murder, it’s nothing but more bullshit and misdirection.

> “It’s not THAT many people celebrating!” (Yes, it is. Everyone has seen it on their Facebook and Instagram feeds.)

> “I thought you guys didn’t support cancel culture.” (We don’t cancel people over their opinions; we’re more than happy to see people lose their jobs—especially their taxpayer-funded jobs—for actively cheering on murder, though. If you can’t see the difference, that’s your own shortcoming.)

All bullshit. Not even smart bullshit, but stale, mid-grade, low-IQ bullshit. Ordinary Americans see right through it, and they don’t like how it smells.

You probably don’t like hearing this. But you need to hear it.

Because I’m right, and, as you reflect on this, you know I’m right. The ranks of my political movement gained millions of righteously angry new members this week. We have a mandate to ensure these crimes never happen again, and that’s exactly what we are now going to do.

If you want to keep a seat at the table as we do so, you’d better clean house and start policing your own.
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06:34 is the same right wing ha;f-truths and innuendo that the right (limbaugh/Kirk/Trump) have gotten away with forever. It is not with a point by point refutation but there is no critical thinking that goes into a rant like that. It is all meant to divide based on gaslighting.
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It’s like we are living in bizarro world.

Why is the right so intent on destroying the US? I don’t get it.

It’s disturbing that our kids have to grow up in this shtshow.

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Dcum won’t believe this. Dcum will continue with their strange “groyper” approach. Delusional.
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At the end of the day, regardless of the shooters sexual orientation , the shooter wasn't a trans person. Ergo, the blame and castigation on the trans community is misplaced and completely irrelevant.

What is clear is this is a person who grew up in a right wing, rural gun culture, he got angry and shot and killed someone.

But the right is using this as a cudgel in its ongoing witch-hunt against "the other" to further elevate the straight, white, Christian male as the supreme figure in our country using communications platforms owned and controlled by billionaires using milliionaire politicians to keep the little guy down. It is authoritarian playbook 101.

And meanwhile, the US economy is crumbling, the institutions that have made this country great for the last 80 years are being dismantled and Russia and China are growing in military and economic strength while our population are being distracted with Kirk and Epstein.

Wake up people, we are about to go into some very grim times.
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Dcum won’t believe this. Dcum will continue with their strange “groyper” approach. Delusional.


And what about you, what are you going to do with this info? Express your outrage on a message board?
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Senior FBI officials told Fox News Digital that Robinson and Twiggs were in a “romantic relationship” and shared an apartment in St. George. Those officials said Twiggs has been “extremely cooperative” and stressed that he “had no idea” Robinson was allegedly planning to assassinate Kirk.

FBI officials confirmed Twiggs is not currently accused of any criminal activity in connection with the shooting.

According to an affidavit filed by Utah authorities and reported by the Daily Mail, Twiggs turned over text messages Robinson allegedly sent about retrieving a rifle and stashing it in a bush wrapped in a towel. The affidavit states Robinson also mentioned bullet engravings, a scope, and changing outfits. Investigators later recovered a Mauser .30-06 caliber rifle matching those descriptions near Utah Valley University.

FBI officials told Fox News Digital that agents collected additional evidence from the apartment Robinson and Twiggs shared, including computers that were sent to Quantico for review.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trans-roommate-tyler-james-robinson-213501931.html
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Dcum won’t believe this. Dcum will continue with their strange “groyper” approach. Delusional.


And what about you, what are you going to do with this info? Express your outrage on a message board?


At least I live in reality, and don’t spend my time concocting nonsense conspiracy theories that are patently untrue.

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Dcum won’t believe this. Dcum will continue with their strange “groyper” approach. Delusional.


And what about you, what are you going to do with this info? Express your outrage on a message board?


At least I live in reality, and don’t spend my time concocting nonsense conspiracy theories that are patently untrue.



You're spending your time whining about conspiracy theories.
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