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Anonymous
Who are you...you keep saying it's TBD...give us proof that it's TBD. FCV sure in the heck aren't promoting ECNl What's going to be funny is when Loudoun kicks FCV to the curb when the opportunity arises..and it will happen I predict down the road. |
Anonymous
Please post the cost number you have. If you think that Spirit is 3x the cost of BRYC Ecnl then you are mistaken and need to research the true cost of ecnl |
Anonymous
From the BRYC town hall slides for 2017-2018 season - not including travel costs (which will be significant for Ecnl and da): Spirit $6000 McLean $2372 FCV $2750 BRYC $1900 VDA $2500 |
Anonymous
Thank you for that but BRYC is selling a pipe dream. Unless they are using other funds to bring down the cost..because 1900 is nothing. Where is the 6000 price tag of spirit coming from? |
Anonymous
| 5000-6000 minimum for ECNL. Unless they are going to raise everyone else's fees to cover them. |
Anonymous
How would Loudoun kick FCV to the curb? What proof is there that FCV will not be in ECNL other than a BRYC town hall PowerPoint slide? |
Anonymous
As I've said twice before the amounts do not include travel costs. BRYC was very clear about this - but this is true of all of the club fees listed. All of the numbers came from a slide that compared costs of local clubs. |
Anonymous
Amazing how BRYC knows so much about other clubs prices when they aren't often listed on the clubs own websites. |
Anonymous
The Spirit DA slides, both MD and VA, don't have a cost number on them (http://washingtonspirit.com/da/). And the 'extra' cost for super Y was exactly equivalent to the cost of a Spirit pro team season ticket (which was part of the spirit super Y package), ~200, not twice as much. So Spirit Super Y costs were around $850 when other Super Y teams were around $650. I think Spirit costs will be comparable to the other elite clubs, as they DO say in their slides, likely in the 2500 range for DA. I'd love to see this slide from which you quote, as I think it would be telling to figure out the source of BRYC's clearly unbiased data--or maybe BRYC is trying to scare players off from Spirit DA because they realize it's a direct competitor for talent for BRYC, as it is a better commute than FCV or VDA for the inside-the-beltway players and families. |
Anonymous
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Spirit will always cost more than other clubs because other clubs have more players to spread the shared expenses over. Take for example the girls technical director. Spirit VA (or MD) will only have ~80 players total but a DA that's part of a club can spread those costs over at least all of the female travel players, and probably the house female players too. The same inability to spread costs will apply to fields, goalkeeping coach, administrative expenses, equipments, etc.
ANother thing to consider is that the professional Spirit team is not a money making operation so they are not going to be funneling much, if any, money down to the DA. Unlike a club which may be having tournaments and other events where the profits will be used to defray club costs. Even with the NWSL's new TV contract, parents should be worried about the long-term viability of the Spirit organization. Can anyone dispute that PWSI and VSA are more likely to be around in 5 years than Spirit? But turning to the Spirit DA now, they did announce the technical director for the Virginia program - http://washingtonspirit.com/youth/washington-spirit-selects-tom-torres-as-u-s-soccer-development-academy-director-in-virginia/ Of course, you can tell by the blurb at the bottom that they wrote this last week, before this past Sunday's ID sessions that they encouraging people to attend, without realizing that the press release wouldn't come out until after the event. |
Anonymous
As a parent who's been there, I think it's more problematic to have 2nd and 3rd teams' fees in a youth-only organization subsidizing the 1st team's fancy extras and travel. Makes those kids feel like second class citizens and their parents feel like chumps. |
Anonymous
DS's team played at U11 in top bracket and Arlington was definitely the cream of the crop, as they should be with that roster. We were on the other side of the bracket and every match was a one-goal difference with great matches all around. I thought the tournament was very well-run and the refereeing above average. I expect my feet and hands to thaw out by next Wednesday. |
Anonymous
Why the stress on "that roster"? Was there something off with the roster? Did they guest players or something? The APC tournament tournament was last weekend as well. PDA and Vardar U11s are incredible. |
Anonymous
As someone who has reviewed the budgets for the different teams in an age group, this whole idea of the lower teams subsidizing the top team is a myth. Each team's budget is developed on independently, and the club-wide fees are the same for each team. There are no funds being secretly diverted to the top team's account. If anything, the lower teams get more for their fees as the top team's coach is usually responsible for all the teams in his age group and thus spends part of his time working with them, and generally B team players are more likely to get the chance to play up with the A team, then an A team player is to go down to the B team (in some leagues, it was against the rule for a higher team player to play down). But this story is spread among the parents of the lower teams of every club as evidence of how their little Landon or Mia is being exploited. |
Anonymous
+1 Thank you! |