Superintendent's Recommendation for Richard Montgomery ES #5 Boundaries

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How about 3rd option presented today? It doesn't change current boundary by much. It's not busing kids all over. It's balancing FARMs. It's leaving Twinbrook for title 1. It's balancing capacity.

Only downside will be extra few minutes of bus rides for RP5 kids. Still an option with most benefits and one negative.

Well, RP5 also may not want to go to the new school just like B5 and B6. Very few zones have shown willingness to move.

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Anonymous wrote:Out of all the options I've seen, I thought the Hungerford proposal would have made a lot of sense, not sure why it wasn't used for this proposal, the only change that

B5 and B6 both want to go to Beall and they opposed it saying that boy scout and girls scout are together. They used CG3 argument here.

B5, B6 and CG3 wants to remain at old school at any cost even if it means keeping older school over capacity.

It wasn't a strong opposition though, was it? The only arguments to it we're people who wants to stay in the same school like the ones tou said. But capacity and SES wise, this option would actually work, might need soime tweaks for RP's very low FARMS but that was about it.

Yes, the Hungerford proposal makes the most sense of all the crazy options that are on the table at this point. It's not perfect, but no option is, and it's much closer to perfect than many of the others. If more people can get behind this option, it will save a lot of children from being bussed all over the cluster...

How about 3rd option presented today? It doesn't change current boundary by much. It's not busing kids all over. It's balancing FARMs. It's leaving Twinbrook for title 1. It's balancing capacity.

Only downside will be extra few minutes of bus rides for RP5 kids. Still an option with most benefits and one negative.

Also that one RP neighborhood that will drive by the new school on their way to Ritchie Park...

Yes, I forgot about it. Also entire RP2 is not really walk able. We heard RP representative saying that on behalf of few RP2 parents in working session. If it's true then RP2 may need a bus to go to either RM#5 or RP. Right now they go to RP already.

Anyway, as I said earlier - Not possible to come up with a perfect solution. But option 3 presented today looks the best solution to me. CG3 may still object, but B5 and B6 are able to avoid moving. Main downside is still few minutes extra bus ride for RP5 kids. They are most easy to move due to already being an island.

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Anonymous wrote:Out of all the options I've seen, I thought the Hungerford proposal would have made a lot of sense, not sure why it wasn't used for this proposal, the only change that

B5 and B6 both want to go to Beall and they opposed it saying that boy scout and girls scout are together. They used CG3 argument here.

B5, B6 and CG3 wants to remain at old school at any cost even if it means keeping older school over capacity.

It wasn't a strong opposition though, was it? The only arguments to it we're people who wants to stay in the same school like the ones tou said. But capacity and SES wise, this option would actually work, might need soime tweaks for RP's very low FARMS but that was about it.

Yes, the Hungerford proposal makes the most sense of all the crazy options that are on the table at this point. It's not perfect, but no option is, and it's much closer to perfect than many of the others. If more people can get behind this option, it will save a lot of children from being bussed all over the cluster...

How about 3rd option presented today? It doesn't change current boundary by much. It's not busing kids all over. It's balancing FARMs. It's leaving Twinbrook for title 1. It's balancing capacity.

Only downside will be extra few minutes of bus rides for RP5 kids. Still an option with most benefits and one negative.

Also that one RP neighborhood that will drive by the new school on their way to Ritchie Park...

Yes, I forgot about it. Also entire RP2 is not really walk able. We heard RP representative saying that on behalf of few RP2 parents in working session. If it's true then RP2 may need a bus to go to either RM#5 or RP. Right now they go to RP already.

Anyway, as I said earlier - Not possible to come up with a perfect solution. But option 3 presented today looks the best solution to me. CG3 may still object, but B5 and B6 are able to avoid moving. Main downside is still few minutes extra bus ride for RP5 kids. They are most easy to move due to already being an island.

Why not send Horizon Hill to RM ES #5? They are closer to the new school. Then the concern about distance/commute time is moot for both neighborhoods (Fallsgrove and Horizon Hill).

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Anonymous wrote:Out of all the options I've seen, I thought the Hungerford proposal would have made a lot of sense, not sure why it wasn't used for this proposal, the only change that

B5 and B6 both want to go to Beall and they opposed it saying that boy scout and girls scout are together. They used CG3 argument here.

B5, B6 and CG3 wants to remain at old school at any cost even if it means keeping older school over capacity.

It wasn't a strong opposition though, was it? The only arguments to it we're people who wants to stay in the same school like the ones tou said. But capacity and SES wise, this option would actually work, might need soime tweaks for RP's very low FARMS but that was about it.

Yes, the Hungerford proposal makes the most sense of all the crazy options that are on the table at this point. It's not perfect, but no option is, and it's much closer to perfect than many of the others. If more people can get behind this option, it will save a lot of children from being bussed all over the cluster...

How about 3rd option presented today? It doesn't change current boundary by much. It's not busing kids all over. It's balancing FARMs. It's leaving Twinbrook for title 1. It's balancing capacity.

Only downside will be extra few minutes of bus rides for RP5 kids. Still an option with most benefits and one negative.

Also that one RP neighborhood that will drive by the new school on their way to Ritchie Park...

Yes, I forgot about it. Also entire RP2 is not really walk able. We heard RP representative saying that on behalf of few RP2 parents in working session. If it's true then RP2 may need a bus to go to either RM#5 or RP. Right now they go to RP already.

Anyway, as I said earlier - Not possible to come up with a perfect solution. But option 3 presented today looks the best solution to me. CG3 may still object, but B5 and B6 are able to avoid moving. Main downside is still few minutes extra bus ride for RP5 kids. They are most easy to move due to already being an island.

Option 3 seems to be the best out of the ones shown today, but I still think the Hungerford option is better, since it's less disruptive. They could have adopted this and then transfer some TB to RP to balance SES, that's less far fetched than bussing TB all they way to CG.

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Anonymous wrote:Ritchie Park - just wow, I feel bad for you all. Condolences.

~Beall parent

+1 the map for Option 1 is just ridiculous for the outlying RP and TB neighborhoods. Those neighborhoods better bring an army to Thursday's meeting. I can't believe the Super submitted this nonsense with a straight face.

Basically, each school gives 25-30% of its population to the new school. Under superintendent option 1, Ritchie Park and Twinbrook trade another 10% from the zones furthest from the assigned school and Twinbroook gives another 10% to CG in exchange for 10% more rom Beall.

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Anonymous wrote:Out of all the options I've seen, I thought the Hungerford proposal would have made a lot of sense, not sure why it wasn't used for this proposal, the only change that

B5 and B6 both want to go to Beall and they opposed it saying that boy scout and girls scout are together. They used CG3 argument here.

B5, B6 and CG3 wants to remain at old school at any cost even if it means keeping older school over capacity.

It wasn't a strong opposition though, was it? The only arguments to it we're people who wants to stay in the same school like the ones tou said. But capacity and SES wise, this option would actually work, might need soime tweaks for RP's very low FARMS but that was about it.

Yes, the Hungerford proposal makes the most sense of all the crazy options that are on the table at this point. It's not perfect, but no option is, and it's much closer to perfect than many of the others. If more people can get behind this option, it will save a lot of children from being bussed all over the cluster...

How about 3rd option presented today? It doesn't change current boundary by much. It's not busing kids all over. It's balancing FARMs. It's leaving Twinbrook for title 1. It's balancing capacity.

Only downside will be extra few minutes of bus rides for RP5 kids. Still an option with most benefits and one negative.

Also that one RP neighborhood that will drive by the new school on their way to Ritchie Park...

Yes, I forgot about it. Also entire RP2 is not really walk able. We heard RP representative saying that on behalf of few RP2 parents in working session. If it's true then RP2 may need a bus to go to either RM#5 or RP. Right now they go to RP already.

Anyway, as I said earlier - Not possible to come up with a perfect solution. But option 3 presented today looks the best solution to me. CG3 may still object, but B5 and B6 are able to avoid moving. Main downside is still few minutes extra bus ride for RP5 kids. They are most easy to move due to already being an island.

Option 3 seems to be the best out of the ones shown today, but I still think the Hungerford option is better, since it's less disruptive. They could have adopted this and then transfer some TB to RP to balance SES, that's less far fetched than bussing TB all they way to CG.

If I understand correctly, TB doesn't want to change due to various reasons. I do understand that entire school has like 70% population below 40K income. Many of them don't own car and it's not possible for them to drive if they miss bus.

So if you leave TB then RP has two sections. RP2 and RP5 with different SES level. To balance FARMs, it's much easier to let RP2 continue going to RP, no disruption for them.

Only disruption will be RP5 changing school to go to RM#5. Since RP5 is already an island, it's not really a disruption for RP5, but it's a longer bus ride.

I do see today's option 3 as the least disruptive option for everyone. It does have issues, but it's a least disruptive option and does a job to balance FARMs.

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Anonymous wrote:Out of all the options I've seen, I thought the Hungerford proposal would have made a lot of sense, not sure why it wasn't used for this proposal, the only change that

B5 and B6 both want to go to Beall and they opposed it saying that boy scout and girls scout are together. They used CG3 argument here.

B5, B6 and CG3 wants to remain at old school at any cost even if it means keeping older school over capacity.

It wasn't a strong opposition though, was it? The only arguments to it we're people who wants to stay in the same school like the ones tou said. But capacity and SES wise, this option would actually work, might need soime tweaks for RP's very low FARMS but that was about it.

Yes, the Hungerford proposal makes the most sense of all the crazy options that are on the table at this point. It's not perfect, but no option is, and it's much closer to perfect than many of the others. If more people can get behind this option, it will save a lot of children from being bussed all over the cluster...

How about 3rd option presented today? It doesn't change current boundary by much. It's not busing kids all over. It's balancing FARMs. It's leaving Twinbrook for title 1. It's balancing capacity.

Only downside will be extra few minutes of bus rides for RP5 kids. Still an option with most benefits and one negative.

Also that one RP neighborhood that will drive by the new school on their way to Ritchie Park...

Yes, I forgot about it. Also entire RP2 is not really walk able. We heard RP representative saying that on behalf of few RP2 parents in working session. If it's true then RP2 may need a bus to go to either RM#5 or RP. Right now they go to RP already.

Anyway, as I said earlier - Not possible to come up with a perfect solution. But option 3 presented today looks the best solution to me. CG3 may still object, but B5 and B6 are able to avoid moving. Main downside is still few minutes extra bus ride for RP5 kids. They are most easy to move due to already being an island.

Option 3 seems to be the best out of the ones shown today, but I still think the Hungerford option is better, since it's less disruptive. They could have adopted this and then transfer some TB to RP to balance SES, that's less far fetched than bussing TB all they way to CG.

If I understand correctly, TB doesn't want to change due to various reasons. I do understand that entire school has like 70% population below 40K income. Many of them don't own car and it's not possible for them to drive if they miss bus.

So if you leave TB then RP has two sections. RP2 and RP5 with different SES level. To balance FARMs, it's much easier to let RP2 continue going to RP, no disruption for them.

Only disruption will be RP5 changing school to go to RM#5. Since RP5 is already an island, it's not really a disruption for RP5, but it's a longer bus ride.

I do see today's option 3 as the least disruptive option for everyone. It does have issues, but it's a least disruptive option and does a job to balance FARMs.

That's just like saying "since CG2 is already an island, it's not really a disruption for CG2, but it's a longer bus ride" A longer bus ride for a kindergartener is a disruption. A longer bus ride is a disruption for any families wanting to be involved in school activities. We all see bussing RP4 to Twinbrook or T5 to College Gardens as absurd due to the distance and the challenges it causes. Why don't people seem to care about RP5 going to RM ES #5 in terms of the distance and challenges for those families?

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Anonymous wrote:Out of all the options I've seen, I thought the Hungerford proposal would have made a lot of sense, not sure why it wasn't used for this proposal, the only change that

B5 and B6 both want to go to Beall and they opposed it saying that boy scout and girls scout are together. They used CG3 argument here.

B5, B6 and CG3 wants to remain at old school at any cost even if it means keeping older school over capacity.

It wasn't a strong opposition though, was it? The only arguments to it we're people who wants to stay in the same school like the ones tou said. But capacity and SES wise, this option would actually work, might need soime tweaks for RP's very low FARMS but that was about it.

Yes, the Hungerford proposal makes the most sense of all the crazy options that are on the table at this point. It's not perfect, but no option is, and it's much closer to perfect than many of the others. If more people can get behind this option, it will save a lot of children from being bussed all over the cluster...

How about 3rd option presented today? It doesn't change current boundary by much. It's not busing kids all over. It's balancing FARMs. It's leaving Twinbrook for title 1. It's balancing capacity.

Only downside will be extra few minutes of bus rides for RP5 kids. Still an option with most benefits and one negative.

Also that one RP neighborhood that will drive by the new school on their way to Ritchie Park...

Yes, I forgot about it. Also entire RP2 is not really walk able. We heard RP representative saying that on behalf of few RP2 parents in working session. If it's true then RP2 may need a bus to go to either RM#5 or RP. Right now they go to RP already.

Anyway, as I said earlier - Not possible to come up with a perfect solution. But option 3 presented today looks the best solution to me. CG3 may still object, but B5 and B6 are able to avoid moving. Main downside is still few minutes extra bus ride for RP5 kids. They are most easy to move due to already being an island.

Option 3 seems to be the best out of the ones shown today, but I still think the Hungerford option is better, since it's less disruptive. They could have adopted this and then transfer some TB to RP to balance SES, that's less far fetched than bussing TB all they way to CG.

If I understand correctly, TB doesn't want to change due to various reasons. I do understand that entire school has like 70% population below 40K income. Many of them don't own car and it's not possible for them to drive if they miss bus.

So if you leave TB then RP has two sections. RP2 and RP5 with different SES level. To balance FARMs, it's much easier to let RP2 continue going to RP, no disruption for them.

Only disruption will be RP5 changing school to go to RM#5. Since RP5 is already an island, it's not really a disruption for RP5, but it's a longer bus ride.

I do see today's option 3 as the least disruptive option for everyone. It does have issues, but it's a least disruptive option and does a job to balance FARMs.

That's just like saying "since CG2 is already an island, it's not really a disruption for CG2, but it's a longer bus ride" A longer bus ride for a kindergartener is a disruption. A longer bus ride is a disruption for any families wanting to be involved in school activities. We all see bussing RP4 to Twinbrook or T5 to College Gardens as absurd due to the distance and the challenges it causes. Why don't people seem to care about RP5 going to RM ES #5 in terms of the distance and challenges for those families?

+1 that's pretty short sighted to say it's not a disruption. "Their boundary is already screwy just screw with them some more, they won't notice." Good luck maintaining low FARMs at the new school with that attitude. Who would want to buy in RP5 if they have options that don't involve being bussed past multiple schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Out of all the options I've seen, I thought the Hungerford proposal would have made a lot of sense, not sure why it wasn't used for this proposal, the only change that

B5 and B6 both want to go to Beall and they opposed it saying that boy scout and girls scout are together. They used CG3 argument here.

B5, B6 and CG3 wants to remain at old school at any cost even if it means keeping older school over capacity.

It wasn't a strong opposition though, was it? The only arguments to it we're people who wants to stay in the same school like the ones tou said. But capacity and SES wise, this option would actually work, might need soime tweaks for RP's very low FARMS but that was about it.

Yes, the Hungerford proposal makes the most sense of all the crazy options that are on the table at this point. It's not perfect, but no option is, and it's much closer to perfect than many of the others. If more people can get behind this option, it will save a lot of children from being bussed all over the cluster...

How about 3rd option presented today? It doesn't change current boundary by much. It's not busing kids all over. It's balancing FARMs. It's leaving Twinbrook for title 1. It's balancing capacity.

Only downside will be extra few minutes of bus rides for RP5 kids. Still an option with most benefits and one negative.

Also that one RP neighborhood that will drive by the new school on their way to Ritchie Park...

Yes, I forgot about it. Also entire RP2 is not really walk able. We heard RP representative saying that on behalf of few RP2 parents in working session. If it's true then RP2 may need a bus to go to either RM#5 or RP. Right now they go to RP already.

Anyway, as I said earlier - Not possible to come up with a perfect solution. But option 3 presented today looks the best solution to me. CG3 may still object, but B5 and B6 are able to avoid moving. Main downside is still few minutes extra bus ride for RP5 kids. They are most easy to move due to already being an island.

Option 3 seems to be the best out of the ones shown today, but I still think the Hungerford option is better, since it's less disruptive. They could have adopted this and then transfer some TB to RP to balance SES, that's less far fetched than bussing TB all they way to CG.

If I understand correctly, TB doesn't want to change due to various reasons. I do understand that entire school has like 70% population below 40K income. Many of them don't own car and it's not possible for them to drive if they miss bus.

So if you leave TB then RP has two sections. RP2 and RP5 with different SES level. To balance FARMs, it's much easier to let RP2 continue going to RP, no disruption for them.

Only disruption will be RP5 changing school to go to RM#5. Since RP5 is already an island, it's not really a disruption for RP5, but it's a longer bus ride.

I do see today's option 3 as the least disruptive option for everyone. It does have issues, but it's a least disruptive option and does a job to balance FARMs.

That's just like saying "since CG2 is already an island, it's not really a disruption for CG2, but it's a longer bus ride" A longer bus ride for a kindergartener is a disruption. A longer bus ride is a disruption for any families wanting to be involved in school activities. We all see bussing RP4 to Twinbrook or T5 to College Gardens as absurd due to the distance and the challenges it causes. Why don't people seem to care about RP5 going to RM ES #5 in terms of the distance and challenges for those families?

You are right here. RP5 should be moved to Beall or CG. That will make commute shorter for RP5 kids. Then move other region downwards to fill RM#5. I may even draft something if enough people want that. That's a good way to balance bus ride and FARMs rate.

I did mention that in previous meeting. I am in RP5, but many parents said that they would want to go to RM#5 if they have to change school.

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+1 that's pretty short sighted to say it's not a disruption. "Their boundary is already screwy just screw with them some more, they won't notice." Good luck maintaining low FARMs at the new school with that attitude. Who would want to buy in RP5 if they have options that don't involve being bussed past multiple schools?

I think solution should start with figuring out the best place for RP5. Some one else pointed out that RP5 is closer to CG or Beall. Without moving RP5 , RP is left with 7% FARMs. That means moving RP5. TB is even further so Beall and CG are two choices. I am not familiar with roads in that area. Some one can point out if Beall is closer or CG is closer.

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+1 that's pretty short sighted to say it's not a disruption. "Their boundary is already screwy just screw with them some more, they won't notice." Good luck maintaining low FARMs at the new school with that attitude. Who would want to buy in RP5 if they have options that don't involve being bussed past multiple schools?

I think solution should start with figuring out the best place for RP5. Some one else pointed out that RP5 is closer to CG or Beall. Without moving RP5 , RP is left with 7% FARMs. That means moving RP5. TB is even further so Beall and CG are two choices. I am not familiar with roads in that area. Some one can point out if Beall is closer or CG is closer.

Why doesn't MCPS just buy up a swath of land in the middle of the county and put all its schools (elementary, middle, and high) there? Then the BOE can create whatever FARMS, racial makeup, etc., it wants for each school.

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+1 that's pretty short sighted to say it's not a disruption. "Their boundary is already screwy just screw with them some more, they won't notice." Good luck maintaining low FARMs at the new school with that attitude. Who would want to buy in RP5 if they have options that don't involve being bussed past multiple schools?

I think solution should start with figuring out the best place for RP5. Some one else pointed out that RP5 is closer to CG or Beall. Without moving RP5 , RP is left with 7% FARMs. That means moving RP5. TB is even further so Beall and CG are two choices. I am not familiar with roads in that area. Some one can point out if Beall is closer or CG is closer.

Fallsgrove is closer to Beall (slightly) than CG. As a reminder, some of the FARMS in RP comes from Fallsgrove. If Fallsgrove goes to Beall, and RP2 and RP6 stay at RP, who goes to RM ES #5? Everyone at Beall except the walkers???

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Anonymous wrote:Out of all the options I've seen, I thought the Hungerford proposal would have made a lot of sense, not sure why it wasn't used for this proposal, the only change that

B5 and B6 both want to go to Beall and they opposed it saying that boy scout and girls scout are together. They used CG3 argument here.

B5, B6 and CG3 wants to remain at old school at any cost even if it means keeping older school over capacity.

It wasn't a strong opposition though, was it? The only arguments to it we're people who wants to stay in the same school like the ones tou said. But capacity and SES wise, this option would actually work, might need soime tweaks for RP's very low FARMS but that was about it.

Yes, the Hungerford proposal makes the most sense of all the crazy options that are on the table at this point. It's not perfect, but no option is, and it's much closer to perfect than many of the others. If more people can get behind this option, it will save a lot of children from being bussed all over the cluster...

How about 3rd option presented today? It doesn't change current boundary by much. It's not busing kids all over. It's balancing FARMs. It's leaving Twinbrook for title 1. It's balancing capacity.

Only downside will be extra few minutes of bus rides for RP5 kids. Still an option with most benefits and one negative.

Also that one RP neighborhood that will drive by the new school on their way to Ritchie Park...

Yes, I forgot about it. Also entire RP2 is not really walk able. We heard RP representative saying that on behalf of few RP2 parents in working session. If it's true then RP2 may need a bus to go to either RM#5 or RP. Right now they go to RP already.

Anyway, as I said earlier - Not possible to come up with a perfect solution. But option 3 presented today looks the best solution to me. CG3 may still object, but B5 and B6 are able to avoid moving. Main downside is still few minutes extra bus ride for RP5 kids. They are most easy to move due to already being an island.

Why not send Horizon Hill to RM ES #5? They are closer to the new school. Then the concern about distance/commute time is moot for both neighborhoods (Fallsgrove and Horizon Hill).

Horizon Hill is right across the street from Ritchie Park. I can walk thru Hadley's park right to the school. We are closer than half the RP1 kids but because of Falls Rd we are technically not walkers. That doesn't mean we should get bussed all over. RP2, RP6, and RP3 are all closer to RM5 and Twinbrook. RP5 is so far away from everyone. It amazes me our neighborhood even got brought into this mess last minute because a few people didn't like the FARMS rates?

The fact RP2 and RP6 are now not even moving to the new school when they are the closest and sending Fallsgrove to RM5 and potentially us to Twinbrook is ridiculous. Why aren't we sending CG4 or CG5 to Twinbrook or anywhere else? Why is far off neighborhoods of RP now getting all the changes?

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Anonymous wrote:Out of all the options I've seen, I thought the Hungerford proposal would have made a lot of sense, not sure why it wasn't used for this proposal, the only change that

B5 and B6 both want to go to Beall and they opposed it saying that boy scout and girls scout are together. They used CG3 argument here.

B5, B6 and CG3 wants to remain at old school at any cost even if it means keeping older school over capacity.

It wasn't a strong opposition though, was it? The only arguments to it we're people who wants to stay in the same school like the ones tou said. But capacity and SES wise, this option would actually work, might need soime tweaks for RP's very low FARMS but that was about it.

Yes, the Hungerford proposal makes the most sense of all the crazy options that are on the table at this point. It's not perfect, but no option is, and it's much closer to perfect than many of the others. If more people can get behind this option, it will save a lot of children from being bussed all over the cluster...

How about 3rd option presented today? It doesn't change current boundary by much. It's not busing kids all over. It's balancing FARMs. It's leaving Twinbrook for title 1. It's balancing capacity.

Only downside will be extra few minutes of bus rides for RP5 kids. Still an option with most benefits and one negative.

Also that one RP neighborhood that will drive by the new school on their way to Ritchie Park...

Yes, I forgot about it. Also entire RP2 is not really walk able. We heard RP representative saying that on behalf of few RP2 parents in working session. If it's true then RP2 may need a bus to go to either RM#5 or RP. Right now they go to RP already.

Anyway, as I said earlier - Not possible to come up with a perfect solution. But option 3 presented today looks the best solution to me. CG3 may still object, but B5 and B6 are able to avoid moving. Main downside is still few minutes extra bus ride for RP5 kids. They are most easy to move due to already being an island.

Why not send Horizon Hill to RM ES #5? They are closer to the new school. Then the concern about distance/commute time is moot for both neighborhoods (Fallsgrove and Horizon Hill).

Horizon Hill is right across the street from Ritchie Park. I can walk thru Hadley's park right to the school. We are closer than half the RP1 kids but because of Falls Rd we are technically not walkers. That doesn't mean we should get bussed all over. RP2, RP6, and RP3 are all closer to RM5 and Twinbrook. RP5 is so far away from everyone. It amazes me our neighborhood even got brought into this mess last minute because a few people didn't like the FARMS rates?

The fact RP2 and RP6 are now not even moving to the new school when they are the closest and sending Fallsgrove to RM5 and potentially us to Twinbrook is ridiculous. Why aren't we sending CG4 or CG5 to Twinbrook or anywhere else? Why is far off neighborhoods of RP now getting all the changes?

Because HH has only 50 elementary school kids, and the BOE decided to pick on HH and give up on 50 votes in favor of some others. VOTE THEM OUT. I live in HH. I didn't vote for these clowns.

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Anonymous wrote:Out of all the options I've seen, I thought the Hungerford proposal would have made a lot of sense, not sure why it wasn't used for this proposal, the only change that

B5 and B6 both want to go to Beall and they opposed it saying that boy scout and girls scout are together. They used CG3 argument here.

B5, B6 and CG3 wants to remain at old school at any cost even if it means keeping older school over capacity.

It wasn't a strong opposition though, was it? The only arguments to it we're people who wants to stay in the same school like the ones tou said. But capacity and SES wise, this option would actually work, might need soime tweaks for RP's very low FARMS but that was about it.

Yes, the Hungerford proposal makes the most sense of all the crazy options that are on the table at this point. It's not perfect, but no option is, and it's much closer to perfect than many of the others. If more people can get behind this option, it will save a lot of children from being bussed all over the cluster...

How about 3rd option presented today? It doesn't change current boundary by much. It's not busing kids all over. It's balancing FARMs. It's leaving Twinbrook for title 1. It's balancing capacity.

Only downside will be extra few minutes of bus rides for RP5 kids. Still an option with most benefits and one negative.

Also that one RP neighborhood that will drive by the new school on their way to Ritchie Park...

Yes, I forgot about it. Also entire RP2 is not really walk able. We heard RP representative saying that on behalf of few RP2 parents in working session. If it's true then RP2 may need a bus to go to either RM#5 or RP. Right now they go to RP already.

Anyway, as I said earlier - Not possible to come up with a perfect solution. But option 3 presented today looks the best solution to me. CG3 may still object, but B5 and B6 are able to avoid moving. Main downside is still few minutes extra bus ride for RP5 kids. They are most easy to move due to already being an island.

Why not send Horizon Hill to RM ES #5? They are closer to the new school. Then the concern about distance/commute time is moot for both neighborhoods (Fallsgrove and Horizon Hill).

Horizon Hill is right across the street from Ritchie Park. I can walk thru Hadley's park right to the school. We are closer than half the RP1 kids but because of Falls Rd we are technically not walkers. That doesn't mean we should get bussed all over. RP2, RP6, and RP3 are all closer to RM5 and Twinbrook. RP5 is so far away from everyone. It amazes me our neighborhood even got brought into this mess last minute because a few people didn't like the FARMS rates?

The fact RP2 and RP6 are now not even moving to the new school when they are the closest and sending Fallsgrove to RM5 and potentially us to Twinbrook is ridiculous. Why aren't we sending CG4 or CG5 to Twinbrook or anywhere else? Why is far off neighborhoods of RP now getting all the changes?

Because HH has only 50 elementary school kids, and the BOE decided to pick on HH and give up on 50 votes in favor of some others. VOTE THEM OUT. I live in HH. I didn't vote for these clowns.

I don't believe that the BoE actually wants that option. They requested the option to prove a point. Save your outrage for if/when Horizon Hill ACTUALLY gets sent to Twinbrook or another far-away school.