Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks, so what conditions constitute the borderline eligibility? If that helps my child is in 4th grade now.

My son was in pool in 2nd, and was not found eligible with a GBRS of 9. I cannot remember his exact scores, but his CogAT composite was 140, Naglieri was borderline pool, so around 130. In 3rd grade his classroom teacher told us to parent refer him, so we assumed that she would have a strong input on his GBRS. We did not do WISC due to financial reasons. We were nowhere near qualifying for aid, but just did not feel we could shell out the $$.

He was found eligible first round in 3rd, and started in 4th with no issues.

I will say, his CogAt and Naglieri scores were pretty strong though. He maxed out a few sections.

This was a few years ago though.

[Anonymous]

Any ideas for this years minimum appeals numbers to get in:

wisc
nnat
cogat
gbrs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any ideas for this years minimum appeals numbers to get in:

wisc
nnat
cogat
gbrs

The appeals packets were just turned in last week. Why would expect anyone to know what scores made it through that process a few days later?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks, so what conditions constitute the borderline eligibility? If that helps my child is in 4th grade now.

My son was in pool in 2nd, and was not found eligible with a GBRS of 9. I cannot remember his exact scores, but his CogAT composite was 140, Naglieri was borderline pool, so around 130. In 3rd grade his classroom teacher told us to parent refer him, so we assumed that she would have a strong input on his GBRS. We did not do WISC due to financial reasons. We were nowhere near qualifying for aid, but just did not feel we could shell out the $$.

He was found eligible first round in 3rd, and started in 4th with no issues.

I will say, his CogAt and Naglieri scores were pretty strong though. He maxed out a few sections.

This was a few years ago though.

If the CogAT composite was 140, then he would have been in pool. If you had to parental refer, that means his composite would have been below 132.

Just the facts, no judgement here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks, so what conditions constitute the borderline eligibility? If that helps my child is in 4th grade now.

My son was in pool in 2nd, and was not found eligible with a GBRS of 9. I cannot remember his exact scores, but his CogAT composite was 140, Naglieri was borderline pool, so around 130. In 3rd grade his classroom teacher told us to parent refer him, so we assumed that she would have a strong input on his GBRS. We did not do WISC due to financial reasons. We were nowhere near qualifying for aid, but just did not feel we could shell out the $$.

He was found eligible first round in 3rd, and started in 4th with no issues.

I will say, his CogAt and Naglieri scores were pretty strong though. He maxed out a few sections.

This was a few years ago though.

If the CogAT composite was 140, then he would have been in pool. If you had to parental refer, that means his composite would have been below 132.

Just the facts, no judgement here.

PP parent referred in 3rd, not 2nd. Those scores posted were from 2nd.

[Anonymous]

Doh!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anybody know who are the people in the appeal committee? Are they teachers from different schools?

yeah, even my kid's teacher gave very good comments on her file but score is very less score of 6. i don't know how the score 6 and comments related.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a question for a person who's familiar with the process ( or anyone else!), would the WISC scores actually play a part in decisions or is it all based on GBRS ratings? I'm thinking to apply for my child next year and was told to do the test ( which is a costly option for us ).

WISC scores MAY play a part if a student is on the borderline of being found eligible. WISC scores are NOT required, however. If you plan to do a parent referral next year, you may wish to make an appointment with the AART at your school and get his/her thoughts about the test scores, GBRS with commentary, etc. Then you may want to consider planning for a WISC after the initial decisions are sent out in the spring.

our kids school AART teacher is not supportive at all. She said all my daughters scores are fake. AAP program is not meant for who wanted it but its for who need it. She very harsh comments not even ready to suggest anything. i don't how to approach her . I would like try in next year if she doesn't get in this year in appeal.

[Anonymous]

The person who wrote "WISC scores MAY play a part if a student is on the borderline of being found eligible"is misinformed.

The central screening committee finds a WISC (or Stanford Binet) highly relevant. If it's in the file, it is the single most influential factor that bears on the decision. Don't put it in the original packet if the County scores are higher than the WISC scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The person who wrote "WISC scores MAY play a part if a student is on the borderline of being found eligible"is misinformed.

The central screening committee finds a WISC (or Stanford Binet) highly relevant. If it's in the file, it is the single most influential factor that bears on the decision. Don't put it in the original packet if the County scores are higher than the WISC scores.

so you're on the central screening committee then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The person who wrote "WISC scores MAY play a part if a student is on the borderline of being found eligible"is misinformed.

I posted that and I can assure you that I am not misinformed.

The WISC scores MAY play a part -- it depends on what the scores are.

If the scores are higher than the group test scores, then the WISC scores will "trump" the group test scores. But if the WISC scores are higher and only in the 120 range, then they are not enough to result in a student being found Center eligible.

Therefore, the WISC scores MAY play a part if a student is on the borderline, as I previously stated.

[Anonymous]

I think what you mean is that the WISC scores may be good enough to get your child in, or they may not be good enough. In any event, the WISC scores are the most influential component of the file, and if they are in the file, they always "play a part" in the analysis (the biggest part).

[Anonymous]

When you are appealing or parent referring, the WISC also tends to be the ONLY substantively "new" information submitted and agree that a score of >130 should be sufficient. Hopefully, nobody is appealing a non-borderline student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When you are appealing or parent referring, the WISC also tends to be the ONLY substantively "new" information submitted and agree that a score of >130 should be sufficient. Hopefully, nobody is appealing a non-borderline student.

What do you mean by a 'non-borderline' student? And who are you to judge them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you are appealing or parent referring, the WISC also tends to be the ONLY substantively "new" information submitted and agree that a score of >130 should be sufficient. Hopefully, nobody is appealing a non-borderline student.

What do you mean by a 'non-borderline' student? And who are you to judge them?

yes, well several have asked who this pretentious pontificator is, and no answers. No name needed of course but how the heck does he/she purport to be such a total expert on this process?