Supreme Court Sides With Wrongly Deported Migrant

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The Supreme Court literally paused Alien Enemies Act deportations over night, so even they are concerned about it at this point.

Where was this concern over people losing their jobs, businesses being shut down, and freedom to travel was restricted?

Oh please no one was restricted from traveling, at least domestically on a federal level. However Trump made it difficult for travelers from overseas to enter the country. But we never had mandatory quarantine like Australia or Singapore.

Popular MAGA rant against the Real ID is that it is an unconstitutional infringement on their right to travel.

Odd how they create constitutional issues where none are present but if a real constitutional violation occurs they just don't care of they like the result.

Conservatives, the party who believes it's an unacceptable infringement on their rights to have to get a special ID to visit Branson, MO but also believes it's totally OK to implement an even more arduous process in order to exercise the right to vote.

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The Supreme Court literally paused Alien Enemies Act deportations over night, so even they are concerned about it at this point.

Where was this concern over people losing their jobs, businesses being shut down, and freedom to travel was restricted?

Oh please no one was restricted from traveling, at least domestically on a federal level. However Trump made it difficult for travelers from overseas to enter the country. But we never had mandatory quarantine like Australia or Singapore.

Popular MAGA rant against the Real ID is that it is an unconstitutional infringement on their right to travel.

Odd how they create constitutional issues where none are present but if a real constitutional violation occurs they just don't care of they like the result.

Conservatives, the party who believes it's an unacceptable infringement on their rights to have to get a special ID to visit Branson, MO but also believes it's totally OK to implement an even more arduous process in order to exercise the right to vote.

Democrats, the party that believes elections are on the same level as visiting a tourist town. Maybe, just maybe, one is more important.

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The Supreme Court literally paused Alien Enemies Act deportations over night, so even they are concerned about it at this point.

Where was this concern over people losing their jobs, businesses being shut down, and freedom to travel was restricted?

Oh please no one was restricted from traveling, at least domestically on a federal level. However Trump made it difficult for travelers from overseas to enter the country. But we never had mandatory quarantine like Australia or Singapore.

Popular MAGA rant against the Real ID is that it is an unconstitutional infringement on their right to travel.

Odd how they create constitutional issues where none are present but if a real constitutional violation occurs they just don't care of they like the result.

Conservatives, the party who believes it's an unacceptable infringement on their rights to have to get a special ID to visit Branson, MO but also believes it's totally OK to implement an even more arduous process in order to exercise the right to vote.

Democrats, the party that believes elections are on the same level as visiting a tourist town. Maybe, just maybe, one is more important.

One is enshrined as a right in the Constitution so yeah, definitely more important to make sure there are fewer barriers to ensure everyone gets a chance to exercise the right to vote.

Not that you'd understand enfranchisement though, seeing as you're a through and through fascist. How's the view from the wrong side of history?

[Anonymous]

Based on the due process he was given, ICE could at any time pick up Garcia and deport him to any country other than El Salvador.
Garcia was not entitled to any additional due process.

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I’m seeing Facebook posts from MAGA “friends”/family who seem utterly convinced that this guy is MS-13 and so “obviously” any Dems advocating for due process must support MS-13 too. Is this really how the right wing media is spinning it? This country is lost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Based on the due process he was given, ICE could at any time pick up Garcia and deport him to any country other than El Salvador.
Garcia was not entitled to any additional due process.

DP. The argument is that to be deported to El Salvador, he was entitled to due process to determine if his 2019 claims supporting the order of protection from deportation to there still exist. Bukele claims they don't, so the question is whether Garci will get that due process, which could be as simple as a single immigration judge hearing with evidence from the El Salvador government. Assuming the hearing vacates the order, then what Bukele does with one of his own citizens is beyond the jurisdiction of US courts. Even if he is freed by Bukele, the US will likely put a permanent ban on his return to the US.

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The Supreme Court literally paused Alien Enemies Act deportations over night, so even they are concerned about it at this point.

Where was this concern over people losing their jobs, businesses being shut down, and freedom to travel was restricted?

Oh please no one was restricted from traveling, at least domestically on a federal level. However Trump made it difficult for travelers from overseas to enter the country. But we never had mandatory quarantine like Australia or Singapore.

Popular MAGA rant against the Real ID is that it is an unconstitutional infringement on their right to travel.

Odd how they create constitutional issues where none are present but if a real constitutional violation occurs they just don't care of they like the result.

Conservatives, the party who believes it's an unacceptable infringement on their rights to have to get a special ID to visit Branson, MO but also believes it's totally OK to implement an even more arduous process in order to exercise the right to vote.

Democrats, the party that believes elections are on the same level as visiting a tourist town. Maybe, just maybe, one is more important.

One is enshrined as a right in the Constitution so yeah, definitely more important to make sure there are fewer barriers to ensure everyone gets a chance to exercise the right to vote.

Not that you'd understand enfranchisement though, seeing as you're a through and through fascist. How's the view from the wrong side of history?

DP. There are many Constitutional rights have "barriers" before they can be freely exercised. People have to show ID to travel on a plane, you have to show ID to buy a gun, etc.... what you consider a barrier, many consider common sense.

[Anonymous]

Glad to have Real ID enforced. Now you have to be here legally to fly.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on the due process he was given, ICE could at any time pick up Garcia and deport him to any country other than El Salvador.
Garcia was not entitled to any additional due process.

The Supreme Court disagrees with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Glad to have Real ID enforced. Now you have to be here legally to fly.

People can still use a passport.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s doing fine and may well decide he wants to stay in El Salvador at this point. He’s already been moved to a nicer facility.

“Kilmar Abrego Garcia reported to Sen. Chris Van Hollen during a meeting in El Salvador that he was moved nine days ago from that country's Terrorism Confinement Center, or CECOT, to another facility with better conditions.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/18/senator-van-hollen-kilmar-abrego-garcia-deported/83155989007/

"The guy who America knowingly sent to a torture camp got moved to a nicer prison solely because a Senator personally got involved with his case, therefore it's fine to keep taking untold numbers of human beings off of American soil and knowingly sending them to torture camps."

It's unbelievable and sickening that people who call themselves Americans think things like this. I used to think our country was better than this but these past few years have proved we are rotten to the core with the kinds of people who would have willingly and joyfully sent their Jewish neighbors to concentration camps in 1940s Germany.

It's not OK that these torture camps exist in El Salvador. It's not OK that America is sending anyone to torture camps in El Salvador. The fact that one single person escaped the torture camp in El Salvador does not make it OK that they exist and we're sending people there.

We used to fight wars against countries with torture camps. We called the people who fought against them the "greatest generation" for a reason. If you're not against sending ANYONE from the US to a torture camp you're against America.

Yes. As a reminder, Germany built all of its first and most of its total concentration camps (until midway through the war) outside of Germany.

This precedent suggests further that any of us, once kidnapped by law enforcement and having left the country, are allowed any treatment legally. Please explain how forcing a third generation American from Nebraska with no due process into a jet owned by Venezuelan and then the Venezuelans shoving him out of the plan over international waters, and the US paying them to do this would be against the law if the treatment of Kilgore Garcia is legal.

There is legal and there is illegal but can't be fixed. Or at least the courts cannot order a fix.

So what's the solution? Just give up and let Trump run rampant until there is a sufficient change in Congress to permit impeachment? If this Constitutional issue just gets ignored with no remedy, ALL inconvenient Constitutional protections evaporate. Do yo want that?

Unless this is stamped down now, not the Trump agenda but the petulent disregard for federal law and the Constitution, it will only stop if someone important is tragically caught up in one of the assaults and dies or is incarcerated.

Run rampant? You mean like Biden refusing to enforce immigration law and throwing the borders wide open? Just who the F are you?

Show me where Biden imprisoned someone without due process and then I will take you seriously. Who the F are YOU? Someone who doesn’t understand the importance of our constitution apparently.

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Anonymous wrote:is there any chance this guy really has ties to MS-13? If he does we are f'd. I really hope this claim was fully investigated before democrats started doubling down on the situation.

He did not contest it in 2019 over two hearings. Instead he filed a claim in a different hearing that a different gang would hurt him and that he fled because they were threatening him and wanted money from his mom's pupusa business.

At the time an informant gave his gang name and rank, and he was wearing clothes associated with the gang. Not just Bulls but a no snitching hoodie.

And then the arresting officer was found to have been trading sex for information, making the informant’s information suspect, at best.

And the informant said he was active in New York where he has never lived.

But you know what, pp knows this. It's been stated over and over. We have also explained the low bar in bond hearings, the fact that immigration judges essentially work for the administration, the fact that a federal judge, with a higher bar, says there is no actual evidence. The administration (minus Trump who is more indifferent and clueless by the day) knows this. They are opting to continue lying

Pp would like to villanize the man to make it seem OK for trump to break the law.

The man is innocent AND he has a right to due process.

He got due process. An immigration judge heard his case. He was here illegally. He was allowed to stay. Then the immigration judge was overruled by the Attorney General.

That can happen. The immigration judge is below the AG, because they are Article II judges that work for the DOJ. (thus, they are in the executive branch), not Article III judges that wotk in the judicial branch.

Stop spouting off about "due process" and "democracy" when you don't know what else to say, moron.

You would benefit from learning about how agencies and our legal systems work so you can stop saying wrong things.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on the due process he was given, ICE could at any time pick up Garcia and deport him to any country other than El Salvador.
Garcia was not entitled to any additional due process.

The Supreme Court disagrees with you.

No they didn't. The issue is he was deported to El Salvador, which is not allowed.
Just wanting people to realize if he were deported anywhere else, there was no issue with what ICE did. No due process was denied in that alternate scenario.
'Kidnapped off the streets with no due process' appears to be the current mantra.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s doing fine and may well decide he wants to stay in El Salvador at this point. He’s already been moved to a nicer facility.

“Kilmar Abrego Garcia reported to Sen. Chris Van Hollen during a meeting in El Salvador that he was moved nine days ago from that country's Terrorism Confinement Center, or CECOT, to another facility with better conditions.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/18/senator-van-hollen-kilmar-abrego-garcia-deported/83155989007/

"The guy who America knowingly sent to a torture camp got moved to a nicer prison solely because a Senator personally got involved with his case, therefore it's fine to keep taking untold numbers of human beings off of American soil and knowingly sending them to torture camps."

It's unbelievable and sickening that people who call themselves Americans think things like this. I used to think our country was better than this but these past few years have proved we are rotten to the core with the kinds of people who would have willingly and joyfully sent their Jewish neighbors to concentration camps in 1940s Germany.

It's not OK that these torture camps exist in El Salvador. It's not OK that America is sending anyone to torture camps in El Salvador. The fact that one single person escaped the torture camp in El Salvador does not make it OK that they exist and we're sending people there.

We used to fight wars against countries with torture camps. We called the people who fought against them the "greatest generation" for a reason. If you're not against sending ANYONE from the US to a torture camp you're against America.

Yes. As a reminder, Germany built all of its first and most of its total concentration camps (until midway through the war) outside of Germany.

This precedent suggests further that any of us, once kidnapped by law enforcement and having left the country, are allowed any treatment legally. Please explain how forcing a third generation American from Nebraska with no due process into a jet owned by Venezuelan and then the Venezuelans shoving him out of the plan over international waters, and the US paying them to do this would be against the law if the treatment of Kilgore Garcia is legal.

There is legal and there is illegal but can't be fixed. Or at least the courts cannot order a fix.

So what's the solution? Just give up and let Trump run rampant until there is a sufficient change in Congress to permit impeachment? If this Constitutional issue just gets ignored with no remedy, ALL inconvenient Constitutional protections evaporate. Do yo want that?

Unless this is stamped down now, not the Trump agenda but the petulent disregard for federal law and the Constitution, it will only stop if someone important is tragically caught up in one of the assaults and dies or is incarcerated.

Run rampant? You mean like Biden refusing to enforce immigration law and throwing the borders wide open? Just who the F are you?

Show me where Biden imprisoned someone without due process and then I will take you seriously. Who the F are YOU? Someone who doesn’t understand the importance of our constitution apparently.

Use parole. TPS. asylum, to let in millions is OK. But having them leave requires individual due process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He’s doing fine and may well decide he wants to stay in El Salvador at this point. He’s already been moved to a nicer facility.

“Kilmar Abrego Garcia reported to Sen. Chris Van Hollen during a meeting in El Salvador that he was moved nine days ago from that country's Terrorism Confinement Center, or CECOT, to another facility with better conditions.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/18/senator-van-hollen-kilmar-abrego-garcia-deported/83155989007/

"The guy who America knowingly sent to a torture camp got moved to a nicer prison solely because a Senator personally got involved with his case, therefore it's fine to keep taking untold numbers of human beings off of American soil and knowingly sending them to torture camps."

It's unbelievable and sickening that people who call themselves Americans think things like this. I used to think our country was better than this but these past few years have proved we are rotten to the core with the kinds of people who would have willingly and joyfully sent their Jewish neighbors to concentration camps in 1940s Germany.

It's not OK that these torture camps exist in El Salvador. It's not OK that America is sending anyone to torture camps in El Salvador. The fact that one single person escaped the torture camp in El Salvador does not make it OK that they exist and we're sending people there.

We used to fight wars against countries with torture camps. We called the people who fought against them the "greatest generation" for a reason. If you're not against sending ANYONE from the US to a torture camp you're against America.

Yes. As a reminder, Germany built all of its first and most of its total concentration camps (until midway through the war) outside of Germany.

This precedent suggests further that any of us, once kidnapped by law enforcement and having left the country, are allowed any treatment legally. Please explain how forcing a third generation American from Nebraska with no due process into a jet owned by Venezuelan and then the Venezuelans shoving him out of the plan over international waters, and the US paying them to do this would be against the law if the treatment of Kilgore Garcia is legal.

There is legal and there is illegal but can't be fixed. Or at least the courts cannot order a fix.

So what's the solution? Just give up and let Trump run rampant until there is a sufficient change in Congress to permit impeachment? If this Constitutional issue just gets ignored with no remedy, ALL inconvenient Constitutional protections evaporate. Do yo want that?

Unless this is stamped down now, not the Trump agenda but the petulent disregard for federal law and the Constitution, it will only stop if someone important is tragically caught up in one of the assaults and dies or is incarcerated.

Run rampant? You mean like Biden refusing to enforce immigration law and throwing the borders wide open? Just who the F are you?

Show me where Biden imprisoned someone without due process and then I will take you seriously. Who the F are YOU? Someone who doesn’t understand the importance of our constitution apparently.

DP. Just one example is all you need? Ok, here’s one.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/12/02/joe-biden-ice-immigration-detention/

If that’s not enough, the ACLU has a report showing the number of immigrants detained in prisons doubled between 2021 and 2023.

https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/unchecked-growth-private-prison-corporations-and-immigration-detention-three-years-into-the-biden-administration

Where was your outrage then? Constitution was just written I guess.