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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]The problem is that the schools have not replaced it with other ways to set reminders, for parents to contact kids,[/b] etc.

The offices are not doing it, so now what? [/quote]

It has never been the school's responsibility to set reminders for students. Schools have always had front offices and phones for parents to call and for students to go to to use the phone or have their parents contacted. Students still go to the school clinic when they're sick and the nurse still contacts the parents to pick up their kid.

It is NOT the SCHOOL's responsibility to replace a means of communication that they never started in the first place. Schools should have banned the phones from the beginning. They didn't; but they also didn't introduce phones to students and parents as the system for them to communicate with each other during the school day. YOU, WE, our KIDS brought them into the schools and just started using them. They've become a problem, interfering with the school's ability to teach, and the school is setting restrictions....just like they do for other things like tardiness, skipping classes, being in the hallways when they are supposed to be in class, smoking, drug use, offensive material on t-shirts, weapons.

YOU are the one who is responsible for figuring out how to schedule, coordinate, and make contingency plans ahead of time and how to call the front office and work problems through with other adults. The school HAS set policies and procedures: in cases of emergency, phones will be made available to the students as soon as safely possible; parents needing to contact their student may call the front office. If you need to pick them up mid-day, you go to the office and your child will be called to the attendance office to be signed out. If it's after-hours, your kid's phone is back in use.[/quote]

But will someone in the office call the classroom to tell my child to come out of class? And how is this better? The teacher on here insisted that using classroom phones was much more distracting than a quick text. And someone in the office will need to take time to do this. It also interrupts the class and the lesson for the teacher to answer the phone, so that's lost teacher and instructional time too. How is this an improvement?

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These are just such ridiculously small "harms" to a cell phone ban in comparison to the massive distraction the phones caused during the school day for educators.  It's like you cell phone advocates have no concept of a cost benefit analysis, and in any event almost all of the benefit you identify inures to the adult's benefit (in this case you have to get out of your car and wait longer).  I just don't care that you have to wait, kids can't take pics of their art, and kids can't tune their instrument using their phone when teachers and our experience as adults tells us that kids were on snapchat/IG/YouTube during the day instead of learning and socializing -- yeah, not all day, i get it, but who cares whether it was all day or not?  They are in school for a limited time period and can put down social for a minute to practice living IRL.  Get over yourself and put your kids first.  [/quote]

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It's all about "me."[/quote]

i actually am trying to make a cost benefit analysis but the anti cell phone brigade is so triggered that you can't admit there are uses to the phones. [/quote]

I admit there are uses for phones. I'm just saying none of them seem to be critical uses that can't be done without.[/quote]

Then why are the teachers freaking out at the thought of not having them? [/quote]
Why stop at teachers? Why not advocate for banning phones for all adults if they are banned for K-12 students? [/quote]

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