Big 3 Nightmare

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Anonymous wrote:I think everyone is on edge because the college admissions process is in flux these days.
No one knows what college admissions offices are looking for. It sucks for the kids applying right now but in a couple years, I bet there will be less angst as people will know what to expect. I actually feel bad for the GDS CCO. They probably didn’t present data because there is not much to go on. Even data from 2 years ago is not particularly relevant now.

The good news is that besides the ivys, there are a large number of most excellent colleges and universities.
Life is not linear and there is no reason to believe it is a zero sum game

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5 years ago, roughly 30-50 percent of the kids in the top privates were going to Ivy.

That is all true and fair, and I feel that the CCOs have an imposible job, but GDS has never shared a lot of data with families. It’s not a new policy.

[Anonymous]

Interesting discussion but I hate the name of this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow- I went to a TT SLAC in the 90s from NCS with a similar GPA and a 1480 SAT.

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Anonymous wrote:“You may have more data at NCS but there are plenty of unhappy parents and students regarding college outcomes at NCS. Yes, the education is outstanding but it is hard for students not to question why they worked so hard in HS to end up at a school like Bates or Wisconsin. “

I am an NCS parent of a senior. We would be dancing on the rooftops if our DD got into Wisconsin. It was a rejection. We are looking at options much, much lower on the USNWR list. Think 75-120.

what is your child's approx. GPA? NCS parent here.

GPA is 3.4. ACT is 33

That truly sucks. All the grade inflation at public schools and test optional is so frustrating.

This is so tone deaf. You realize that “back in the day,” elite colleges only let in certain types of people (originally WASP-Y men from certain families and high schools). Broadening access to a wider swath of kids is a GOOD thing for the colleges and for the country vs having something more like an oligarchy of access. Private school kids do not need MORE protection and benefits. They are going to be fine.

-parent of private school kid who didn’t have a great college outcome

I don’t need a lesson from you about “back in the day”, but thanks private school parent. I was first gen to go to college from LM family. No one said anything about protections or benefits. A meritocracy should be the goal. Not for public schools to inflate grades so that a 4.0 has no more meaning.

So in other words, you want to pull down the ladder behind you.

Not at all. I don’t think my kid should be up against MCPS kids who get Bs and then “show improvement” and all of a sudden it’s an A. Give me a break.

What does this even mean? I have no idea what you are trying to say.
I imagine your implication is that public schools hand out As like candy. While there is grade inflation, a lot of it is at the lower end so that kids who are failing actually end up graduating. Some easy electives like Tech, Forensics or a class like PE\Health do give out easy As but generally Honors and AP classes are very teacher dependent. Some of the teachers are very tough even in public school. College admissions officers are not completely dumb by the way. They look at a 3.8 GPA from Sidwell very differently than a 3.8 GPA from public school

https://rockvillerampage.com/13421/opinion/mcps-needs-to-address-grade-inflation-head-on

Uh, yes, they do, in comparison.

DP. Did you read the rest of the post? Most of the inflation is to help kids at the bottom graduate. That was our experience, too. College-bound kids took a different set of classes with little inflation.

Did you read the article? They give out A's like pez candies.

What article or opinion piece are you all talking about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Long story short:

A few (not all!) private school parents chose Big 3s for the bragging rights and/or because they thought Larlo would be a shoe-in to, nay almost entitled to, a top college. They didn't count on Larlo's classmates outcompeting him.

These parents certainly don't want to take responsibility for their own decisions. So they come out guns blazing against public school kids. It's not a good look.

Absurd take. You can’t see because the chip on your shoulder is obscuring your vision so much. You give public parents a bad name.

- kids in public

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long story short:

A few (not all!) private school parents chose Big 3s for the bragging rights and/or because they thought Larlo would be a shoe-in to, nay almost entitled to, a top college. They didn't count on Larlo's classmates outcompeting him.

These parents certainly don't want to take responsibility for their own decisions. So they come out guns blazing against public school kids. It's not a good look.

Absurd take. You can’t see because the chip on your shoulder is obscuring your vision so much. You give public parents a bad name.

- kids in public

Nope. My kid is going to Columbia from public. I'm confident about my kid's qualifications (national recognition in an EC, great stats, and so on). But I'm also sick and tired of all the private school parents on this thread who say my kid's success is undeserved. Read the thread: our kids are lazy, they only get in because of grade inflation, they'll fail once they get in, et cetera, et cetera. Somebody needs to push back on this BS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow- I went to a TT SLAC in the 90s from NCS with a similar GPA and a 1480 SAT.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“You may have more data at NCS but there are plenty of unhappy parents and students regarding college outcomes at NCS. Yes, the education is outstanding but it is hard for students not to question why they worked so hard in HS to end up at a school like Bates or Wisconsin. “

I am an NCS parent of a senior. We would be dancing on the rooftops if our DD got into Wisconsin. It was a rejection. We are looking at options much, much lower on the USNWR list. Think 75-120.

what is your child's approx. GPA? NCS parent here.

GPA is 3.4. ACT is 33

That truly sucks. All the grade inflation at public schools and test optional is so frustrating.

This is so tone deaf. You realize that “back in the day,” elite colleges only let in certain types of people (originally WASP-Y men from certain families and high schools). Broadening access to a wider swath of kids is a GOOD thing for the colleges and for the country vs having something more like an oligarchy of access. Private school kids do not need MORE protection and benefits. They are going to be fine.

-parent of private school kid who didn’t have a great college outcome

I don’t need a lesson from you about “back in the day”, but thanks private school parent. I was first gen to go to college from LM family. No one said anything about protections or benefits. A meritocracy should be the goal. Not for public schools to inflate grades so that a 4.0 has no more meaning.

So in other words, you want to pull down the ladder behind you.

Not at all. I don’t think my kid should be up against MCPS kids who get Bs and then “show improvement” and all of a sudden it’s an A. Give me a break.

What does this even mean? I have no idea what you are trying to say.
I imagine your implication is that public schools hand out As like candy. While there is grade inflation, a lot of it is at the lower end so that kids who are failing actually end up graduating. Some easy electives like Tech, Forensics or a class like PE\Health do give out easy As but generally Honors and AP classes are very teacher dependent. Some of the teachers are very tough even in public school. College admissions officers are not completely dumb by the way. They look at a 3.8 GPA from Sidwell very differently than a 3.8 GPA from public school

https://rockvillerampage.com/13421/opinion/mcps-needs-to-address-grade-inflation-head-on

Uh, yes, they do, in comparison.

DP. Did you read the rest of the post? Most of the inflation is to help kids at the bottom graduate. That was our experience, too. College-bound kids took a different set of classes with little inflation.

Did you read the article? They give out A's like pez candies.

What article or opinion piece are you all talking about?

Read it and weep. A private school parent here thinks a Rockville High School kid's opinion piece in the school newspaper is gospel truth. https://rockvillerampage.com/13421/opinion/mcps-needs-to-address-grade-inflation-head-on/

[Anonymous]

Harvard Westlake, private school in LA, publishes grade distribution in their classes. I don't remember the exact numbers, but I was surprised to see that it looked like half the kids received As and the other half Bs in many of the courses.

Also, if there is grade inflation in public school, I really don't have any issue with it. High school material isn't hard to begin with so I have more of an issue of making the material needlessly hard or tricky. The top students getting A's in AP courses are also getting 5s on AP tests.

My husband and I are both public high school grads and went on to Ivy undergrad and Ivy law school. We did fine in college and so did the rest of our public high school friends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long story short:

A few (not all!) private school parents chose Big 3s for the bragging rights and/or because they thought Larlo would be a shoe-in to, nay almost entitled to, a top college. They didn't count on Larlo's classmates outcompeting him.

These parents certainly don't want to take responsibility for their own decisions. So they come out guns blazing against public school kids. It's not a good look.

Absurd take. You can’t see because the chip on your shoulder is obscuring your vision so much. You give public parents a bad name.

- kids in public

Nope. My kid is going to Columbia from public. I'm confident about my kid's qualifications (national recognition in an EC, great stats, and so on). But I'm also sick and tired of all the private school parents on this thread who say my kid's success is undeserved. Read the thread: our kids are lazy, they only get in because of grade inflation, they'll fail once they get in, et cetera, et cetera. Somebody needs to push back on this BS.

Well, thank god you’re here. Thank you for performing this vital service for the community. Your bravery will be long remembered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long story short:

A few (not all!) private school parents chose Big 3s for the bragging rights and/or because they thought Larlo would be a shoe-in to, nay almost entitled to, a top college. They didn't count on Larlo's classmates outcompeting him.

These parents certainly don't want to take responsibility for their own decisions. So they come out guns blazing against public school kids. It's not a good look.

Absurd take. You can’t see because the chip on your shoulder is obscuring your vision so much. You give public parents a bad name.

- kids in public

Nope. My kid is going to Columbia from public. I'm confident about my kid's qualifications (national recognition in an EC, great stats, and so on). But I'm also sick and tired of all the private school parents on this thread who say my kid's success is undeserved. Read the thread: our kids are lazy, they only get in because of grade inflation, they'll fail once they get in, et cetera, et cetera. Somebody needs to push back on this BS.

Well, thank god you’re here. Thank you for performing this vital service for the community. Your bravery will be long remembered.

Never said I was brave. It's just, after 40+ pages of bs about public school kids, I'm po'd. Yep, the bitter private school parents trying to blame everybody but themselves got to me, it took 35+ pages, but they got to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long story short:

A few (not all!) private school parents chose Big 3s for the bragging rights and/or because they thought Larlo would be a shoe-in to, nay almost entitled to, a top college. They didn't count on Larlo's classmates outcompeting him.

These parents certainly don't want to take responsibility for their own decisions. So they come out guns blazing against public school kids. It's not a good look.

Absurd take. You can’t see because the chip on your shoulder is obscuring your vision so much. You give public parents a bad name.

- kids in public

Nope. My kid is going to Columbia from public. I'm confident about my kid's qualifications (national recognition in an EC, great stats, and so on). But I'm also sick and tired of all the private school parents on this thread who say my kid's success is undeserved. Read the thread: our kids are lazy, they only get in because of grade inflation, they'll fail once they get in, et cetera, et cetera. Somebody needs to push back on this BS.

Your resentment is making posts up. Take it down a notch. Or leave the thread. It’s embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long story short:

A few (not all!) private school parents chose Big 3s for the bragging rights and/or because they thought Larlo would be a shoe-in to, nay almost entitled to, a top college. They didn't count on Larlo's classmates outcompeting him.

These parents certainly don't want to take responsibility for their own decisions. So they come out guns blazing against public school kids. It's not a good look.

Absurd take. You can’t see because the chip on your shoulder is obscuring your vision so much. You give public parents a bad name.

- kids in public

Nope. My kid is going to Columbia from public. I'm confident about my kid's qualifications (national recognition in an EC, great stats, and so on). But I'm also sick and tired of all the private school parents on this thread who say my kid's success is undeserved. Read the thread: our kids are lazy, they only get in because of grade inflation, they'll fail once they get in, et cetera, et cetera. Somebody needs to push back on this BS.

Well, thank god you’re here. Thank you for performing this vital service for the community. Your bravery will be long remembered.

Never said I was brave. It's just, after 40+ pages of bs about public school kids, I'm po'd. Yep, the bitter private school parents trying to blame everybody but themselves got to me, it took 35+ pages, but they got to me.

Lady, you are making public school parents look bad. And I say that as one. Your persecution complex is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long story short:

A few (not all!) private school parents chose Big 3s for the bragging rights and/or because they thought Larlo would be a shoe-in to, nay almost entitled to, a top college. They didn't count on Larlo's classmates outcompeting him.

These parents certainly don't want to take responsibility for their own decisions. So they come out guns blazing against public school kids. It's not a good look.

Absurd take. You can’t see because the chip on your shoulder is obscuring your vision so much. You give public parents a bad name.

- kids in public

Nope. My kid is going to Columbia from public. I'm confident about my kid's qualifications (national recognition in an EC, great stats, and so on). But I'm also sick and tired of all the private school parents on this thread who say my kid's success is undeserved. Read the thread: our kids are lazy, they only get in because of grade inflation, they'll fail once they get in, et cetera, et cetera. Somebody needs to push back on this BS.

Your resentment is making posts up. Take it down a notch. Or leave the thread. It’s embarrassing.

Relax. It's a thread about college. Why such a scold?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long story short:

A few (not all!) private school parents chose Big 3s for the bragging rights and/or because they thought Larlo would be a shoe-in to, nay almost entitled to, a top college. They didn't count on Larlo's classmates outcompeting him.

These parents certainly don't want to take responsibility for their own decisions. So they come out guns blazing against public school kids. It's not a good look.

Absurd take. You can’t see because the chip on your shoulder is obscuring your vision so much. You give public parents a bad name.

- kids in public

Nope. My kid is going to Columbia from public. I'm confident about my kid's qualifications (national recognition in an EC, great stats, and so on). But I'm also sick and tired of all the private school parents on this thread who say my kid's success is undeserved. Read the thread: our kids are lazy, they only get in because of grade inflation, they'll fail once they get in, et cetera, et cetera. Somebody needs to push back on this BS.

Well, thank god you’re here. Thank you for performing this vital service for the community. Your bravery will be long remembered.

Never said I was brave. It's just, after 40+ pages of bs about public school kids, I'm po'd. Yep, the bitter private school parents trying to blame everybody but themselves got to me, it took 35+ pages, but they got to me.

Lady, you are making public school parents look bad. And I say that as one. Your persecution complex is ridiculous.

Sure you're a public school parent. Go away, troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long story short:

A few (not all!) private school parents chose Big 3s for the bragging rights and/or because they thought Larlo would be a shoe-in to, nay almost entitled to, a top college. They didn't count on Larlo's classmates outcompeting him.

These parents certainly don't want to take responsibility for their own decisions. So they come out guns blazing against public school kids. It's not a good look.

Absurd take. You can’t see because the chip on your shoulder is obscuring your vision so much. You give public parents a bad name.

- kids in public

Nope. My kid is going to Columbia from public. I'm confident about my kid's qualifications (national recognition in an EC, great stats, and so on). But I'm also sick and tired of all the private school parents on this thread who say my kid's success is undeserved. Read the thread: our kids are lazy, they only get in because of grade inflation, they'll fail once they get in, et cetera, et cetera. Somebody needs to push back on this BS.

Your resentment is making posts up. Take it down a notch. Or leave the thread. It’s embarrassing.

Relax. It's a thread about college. Why such a scold?

+1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long story short:

A few (not all!) private school parents chose Big 3s for the bragging rights and/or because they thought Larlo would be a shoe-in to, nay almost entitled to, a top college. They didn't count on Larlo's classmates outcompeting him.

These parents certainly don't want to take responsibility for their own decisions. So they come out guns blazing against public school kids. It's not a good look.

Absurd take. You can’t see because the chip on your shoulder is obscuring your vision so much. You give public parents a bad name.

- kids in public

Nope. My kid is going to Columbia from public. I'm confident about my kid's qualifications (national recognition in an EC, great stats, and so on). But I'm also sick and tired of all the private school parents on this thread who say my kid's success is undeserved. Read the thread: our kids are lazy, they only get in because of grade inflation, they'll fail once they get in, et cetera, et cetera. Somebody needs to push back on this BS.

Well, thank god you’re here. Thank you for performing this vital service for the community. Your bravery will be long remembered.

Never said I was brave. It's just, after 40+ pages of bs about public school kids, I'm po'd. Yep, the bitter private school parents trying to blame everybody but themselves got to me, it took 35+ pages, but they got to me.

Lady, you are making public school parents look bad. And I say that as one. Your persecution complex is ridiculous.

It's the angry private school parents insulting public school kids who look bad.