Why are people more sympathetic to Lindsay Clancy than Andrea Yates? (Child death mentioned)

[Anonymous]

People who express suicidal ideation are not allowed home, generally they are sent to a crisis center and evaluated there. Then admitted to a psych floor.

Yeah, you’ve never been suicidal, have you? That’s not how ideation is handled.

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Why do soooo many people, so so many, men, women, children, need these medications. Are we all really this broken that we must rely on SSRIs and such in order to prevent us from all committing suicide? How pathetic is this? We must look at the bigger picture here as to why so many are dependent on these meds.

Sure. And while you sort that out, let's critique doctors for saving lives, because -- apparently -- you don't care if they die while you protest the fact that they have access to medications to keep them alive.

How about you limit yourself to advocating for mental health specialist access without ALSO criticizing doctors for saving their patients' lives?

Answer the question? Why do so many people need antidepressants? Could they be misdiagnosed or over medicated, yes of course. Especially when we have pcps and obgyns prescribing them.

Why are they killing themselves?

Yes, why are so many of us depressed enough to warrant taking an antidepressant? This is absurd, are we unable to learn healthy coping skills? We just give up and tell our physicians we want to die? Really?

Yeah, I don't think you know the difference between "tell[ing] our physicians we want to di" and "committing suicide." Pro tip: the latter involves an actual dead body, by definition.

So everyone on an antidepressant is potentially suicidal? Is that how obgyns determine when to prescribe antidepressants? Everyone I know is on an antidepressant, except me, and they were never suicidal.

You may not be depressed but you sound like a deeply bitter person who has their own issues.

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Why do soooo many people, so so many, men, women, children, need these medications. Are we all really this broken that we must rely on SSRIs and such in order to prevent us from all committing suicide? How pathetic is this? We must look at the bigger picture here as to why so many are dependent on these meds.

Sure. And while you sort that out, let's critique doctors for saving lives, because -- apparently -- you don't care if they die while you protest the fact that they have access to medications to keep them alive.

How about you limit yourself to advocating for mental health specialist access without ALSO criticizing doctors for saving their patients' lives?

Answer the question? Why do so many people need antidepressants? Could they be misdiagnosed or over medicated, yes of course. Especially when we have pcps and obgyns prescribing them.

Why are they killing themselves?

Yes, why are so many of us depressed enough to warrant taking an antidepressant? This is absurd, are we unable to learn healthy coping skills? We just give up and tell our physicians we want to die? Really?

Yeah, I don't think you know the difference between "tell[ing] our physicians we want to di" and "committing suicide." Pro tip: the latter involves an actual dead body, by definition.

So everyone on an antidepressant is potentially suicidal? Is that how obgyns determine when to prescribe antidepressants? Everyone I know is on an antidepressant, except me, and they were never suicidal.

How do you know this? I was suicidal several years ago and went to my Dr and got on antidepressants. The only people I ever told about my suicidal thoughts were my Dr. and my spouse. Didn’t tell my parents, my siblings, my friends, or anyone else. I told all of those ppl I was on anti depressants but not that I had been suicidal. I don’t think you know as much as you think you know about others’ lives.

People who express suicidal ideation are not allowed home, generally they are sent to a crisis center and evaluated there. Then admitted to a psych floor.

Ok you’re just wrong. People who express suicidal ideation aren’t allowed home from what? The Dr.’s office? You have no idea what you’re talking about. I was prescribed anti depressants, went to the pharmacy to pick them up, and then went home. Marie I should’ve been in a crisis center for evaluation but that is not how our healthcare system works.

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Why do soooo many people, so so many, men, women, children, need these medications. Are we all really this broken that we must rely on SSRIs and such in order to prevent us from all committing suicide? How pathetic is this? We must look at the bigger picture here as to why so many are dependent on these meds.

Sure. And while you sort that out, let's critique doctors for saving lives, because -- apparently -- you don't care if they die while you protest the fact that they have access to medications to keep them alive.

How about you limit yourself to advocating for mental health specialist access without ALSO criticizing doctors for saving their patients' lives?

Answer the question? Why do so many people need antidepressants? Could they be misdiagnosed or over medicated, yes of course. Especially when we have pcps and obgyns prescribing them.

Why are they killing themselves?

Yes, why are so many of us depressed enough to warrant taking an antidepressant? This is absurd, are we unable to learn healthy coping skills? We just give up and tell our physicians we want to die? Really?

Yeah, I don't think you know the difference between "tell[ing] our physicians we want to di" and "committing suicide." Pro tip: the latter involves an actual dead body, by definition.

So everyone on an antidepressant is potentially suicidal? Is that how obgyns determine when to prescribe antidepressants? Everyone I know is on an antidepressant, except me, and they were never suicidal.

How do you know this? I was suicidal several years ago and went to my Dr and got on antidepressants. The only people I ever told about my suicidal thoughts were my Dr. and my spouse. Didn’t tell my parents, my siblings, my friends, or anyone else. I told all of those ppl I was on anti depressants but not that I had been suicidal. I don’t think you know as much as you think you know about others’ lives.

People who express suicidal ideation are not allowed home, generally they are sent to a crisis center and evaluated there. Then admitted to a psych floor.

Ok you’re just wrong. People who express suicidal ideation aren’t allowed home from what? The Dr.’s office? You have no idea what you’re talking about. I was prescribed anti depressants, went to the pharmacy to pick them up, and then went home. Marie I should’ve been in a crisis center for evaluation but that is not how our healthcare system works.

*maybe* I should’ve been not Marie. It is so annoying to read posts from someone who has no idea what they’re talking about but is so sure of themselves anyway.

And even if your friend/neighbor/family member whoever was admitted for psychiatric care, you might not know about that so even in your imaginary scenario where “people w suicidal thoughts go to crisis centers for evaluation” you still might not know about that. People don’t generally go around broadcasting that information.

[Anonymous]

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Why do soooo many people, so so many, men, women, children, need these medications. Are we all really this broken that we must rely on SSRIs and such in order to prevent us from all committing suicide? How pathetic is this? We must look at the bigger picture here as to why so many are dependent on these meds.

Sure. And while you sort that out, let's critique doctors for saving lives, because -- apparently -- you don't care if they die while you protest the fact that they have access to medications to keep them alive.

How about you limit yourself to advocating for mental health specialist access without ALSO criticizing doctors for saving their patients' lives?

Answer the question? Why do so many people need antidepressants? Could they be misdiagnosed or over medicated, yes of course. Especially when we have pcps and obgyns prescribing them.

Why are they killing themselves?

Yes, why are so many of us depressed enough to warrant taking an antidepressant? This is absurd, are we unable to learn healthy coping skills? We just give up and tell our physicians we want to die? Really?

Yeah, I don't think you know the difference between "tell[ing] our physicians we want to di" and "committing suicide." Pro tip: the latter involves an actual dead body, by definition.

So everyone on an antidepressant is potentially suicidal? Is that how obgyns determine when to prescribe antidepressants? Everyone I know is on an antidepressant, except me, and they were never suicidal.

How do you know this? I was suicidal several years ago and went to my Dr and got on antidepressants. The only people I ever told about my suicidal thoughts were my Dr. and my spouse. Didn’t tell my parents, my siblings, my friends, or anyone else. I told all of those ppl I was on anti depressants but not that I had been suicidal. I don’t think you know as much as you think you know about others’ lives.

People who express suicidal ideation are not allowed home, generally they are sent to a crisis center and evaluated there. Then admitted to a psych floor.

I went through this with my child, we waited for 8 hours in a crisis center before we ever saw anyone. Finally, at 2am they told us we wouldn’t see a psychiatrist until maybe 5am, so they allowed us to leave and come back in the morning. Luckily, my DC was safe with me and we returned the next day only to wait another 8 hours.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^as your agenda

Why do soooo many people, so so many, men, women, children, need these medications. Are we all really this broken that we must rely on SSRIs and such in order to prevent us from all committing suicide? How pathetic is this? We must look at the bigger picture here as to why so many are dependent on these meds.

Sure. And while you sort that out, let's critique doctors for saving lives, because -- apparently -- you don't care if they die while you protest the fact that they have access to medications to keep them alive.

How about you limit yourself to advocating for mental health specialist access without ALSO criticizing doctors for saving their patients' lives?

Answer the question? Why do so many people need antidepressants? Could they be misdiagnosed or over medicated, yes of course. Especially when we have pcps and obgyns prescribing them.

Why are they killing themselves?

Yes, why are so many of us depressed enough to warrant taking an antidepressant? This is absurd, are we unable to learn healthy coping skills? We just give up and tell our physicians we want to die? Really?

Yeah, I don't think you know the difference between "tell[ing] our physicians we want to di" and "committing suicide." Pro tip: the latter involves an actual dead body, by definition.

So everyone on an antidepressant is potentially suicidal? Is that how obgyns determine when to prescribe antidepressants? Everyone I know is on an antidepressant, except me, and they were never suicidal.

How do you know this? I was suicidal several years ago and went to my Dr and got on antidepressants. The only people I ever told about my suicidal thoughts were my Dr. and my spouse. Didn’t tell my parents, my siblings, my friends, or anyone else. I told all of those ppl I was on anti depressants but not that I had been suicidal. I don’t think you know as much as you think you know about others’ lives.

People who express suicidal ideation are not allowed home, generally they are sent to a crisis center and evaluated there. Then admitted to a psych floor.

I went through this with my child, we waited for 8 hours in a crisis center before we ever saw anyone. Finally, at 2am they told us we wouldn’t see a psychiatrist until maybe 5am, so they allowed us to leave and come back in the morning. Luckily, my DC was safe with me and we returned the next day only to wait another 8 hours.

Oh and we didn’t even see a psychiatrist initially, we saw a LSW who couldn’t have cared less about my kid. Then after a bunch of questioning, after about 24 hours of sitting and waiting and eating food from the vending machine, we finally saw a psychiatrist. My child is not an adult either.

[Anonymous]

The husbands go fund me is at 1 million dollars. That kind of makes me sick. What does he need that mover for? It doesn’t bring back his kids.

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Anonymous wrote:The husbands go fund me is at 1 million dollars. That kind of makes me sick. What does he need that mover for? It doesn’t bring back his kids.

Give it a rest! No one forced anyone to donate. People feel really bad for him obviously. He’ll have to rebuild his whole life and probably pay out of pocket for expensive rehab for Lindsay. Her physical state isn’t even known as she attempted suicide, never mind her mental state or needing to be in an institution.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^as your agenda

Why do soooo many people, so so many, men, women, children, need these medications. Are we all really this broken that we must rely on SSRIs and such in order to prevent us from all committing suicide? How pathetic is this? We must look at the bigger picture here as to why so many are dependent on these meds.

Sure. And while you sort that out, let's critique doctors for saving lives, because -- apparently -- you don't care if they die while you protest the fact that they have access to medications to keep them alive.

How about you limit yourself to advocating for mental health specialist access without ALSO criticizing doctors for saving their patients' lives?

Answer the question? Why do so many people need antidepressants? Could they be misdiagnosed or over medicated, yes of course. Especially when we have pcps and obgyns prescribing them.

Why are they killing themselves?

Yes, why are so many of us depressed enough to warrant taking an antidepressant? This is absurd, are we unable to learn healthy coping skills? We just give up and tell our physicians we want to die? Really?

Yeah, I don't think you know the difference between "tell[ing] our physicians we want to di" and "committing suicide." Pro tip: the latter involves an actual dead body, by definition.

So everyone on an antidepressant is potentially suicidal? Is that how obgyns determine when to prescribe antidepressants? Everyone I know is on an antidepressant, except me, and they were never suicidal.

How do you know this? I was suicidal several years ago and went to my Dr and got on antidepressants. The only people I ever told about my suicidal thoughts were my Dr. and my spouse. Didn’t tell my parents, my siblings, my friends, or anyone else. I told all of those ppl I was on anti depressants but not that I had been suicidal. I don’t think you know as much as you think you know about others’ lives.

People who express suicidal ideation are not allowed home, generally they are sent to a crisis center and evaluated there. Then admitted to a psych floor.

For suicidal ideation? Nope. Not a chance that you get hospitalized. Not a chance. Must be actively suicidal. Ideations mean nothing. And actively suicidal means nothing. There needs to be a plan. And even that’s not enough. There needs to be a means to carry out the plan. Suicidal ideations gets nothing special.

[Anonymous]

Why do soooo many people, so so many, men, women, children, need these medications. Are we all really this broken that we must rely on SSRIs and such in order to prevent us from all committing suicide? How pathetic is this? We must look at the bigger picture here as to why so many are dependent on these meds.

Because the world kind of sucks. There’s not much of a social support system in place, so many are one medical emergency away from bankruptcy, the world is heating up and no one is doing anything about it, we are at end stage capitalism and spend our lives working jobs we don’t care about… I could go on. The question is why are there so many people out here rawdogging this life without meds or drugs or alcohol or whatever helps you feel better?

I’ve been on an SSRI for about 10 years. It’s made me much happier. I’ve gone off a few times to see how it is and for a pregnancy, and life is just better when I’m on it. Why not take it?

[Anonymous]

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Why do soooo many people, so so many, men, women, children, need these medications. Are we all really this broken that we must rely on SSRIs and such in order to prevent us from all committing suicide? How pathetic is this? We must look at the bigger picture here as to why so many are dependent on these meds.

Because the world kind of sucks. There’s not much of a social support system in place, so many are one medical emergency away from bankruptcy, the world is heating up and no one is doing anything about it, we are at end stage capitalism and spend our lives working jobs we don’t care about… I could go on. The question is why are there so many people out here rawdogging this life without meds or drugs or alcohol or whatever helps you feel better?

I’ve been on an SSRI for about 10 years. It’s made me much happier. I’ve gone off a few times to see how it is and for a pregnancy, and life is just better when I’m on it. Why not take it?

Then why, if the world sucks so bad, why bring kids into it? I don’t agree at all that life kind of sucks, my life is much better than the life my grandparents lived so I just try to put things into perspective. I am not and refuse to become a victim. Not sure how old you are but I am old enough to have witnessed and known the greatest generation and they would be absolutely appalled at our weakness. It’s a group think victim mentality we’ve all adopted. I try to teach my kids that you aren’t supposed to feel happy constantly, it’s perfectly normal to feel emotions, we need to teach coping skills. It’s okay to feel anxious and depressed after a major life change, it’s not a pathology that needs to be medicated necessarily.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^as your agenda

Why do soooo many people, so so many, men, women, children, need these medications. Are we all really this broken that we must rely on SSRIs and such in order to prevent us from all committing suicide? How pathetic is this? We must look at the bigger picture here as to why so many are dependent on these meds.

Sure. And while you sort that out, let's critique doctors for saving lives, because -- apparently -- you don't care if they die while you protest the fact that they have access to medications to keep them alive.

How about you limit yourself to advocating for mental health specialist access without ALSO criticizing doctors for saving their patients' lives?

Answer the question? Why do so many people need antidepressants? Could they be misdiagnosed or over medicated, yes of course. Especially when we have pcps and obgyns prescribing them.

Why are they killing themselves?

Yes, why are so many of us depressed enough to warrant taking an antidepressant? This is absurd, are we unable to learn healthy coping skills? We just give up and tell our physicians we want to die? Really?

Yeah, I don't think you know the difference between "tell[ing] our physicians we want to di" and "committing suicide." Pro tip: the latter involves an actual dead body, by definition.

So everyone on an antidepressant is potentially suicidal? Is that how obgyns determine when to prescribe antidepressants? Everyone I know is on an antidepressant, except me, and they were never suicidal.

How do you know this? I was suicidal several years ago and went to my Dr and got on antidepressants. The only people I ever told about my suicidal thoughts were my Dr. and my spouse. Didn’t tell my parents, my siblings, my friends, or anyone else. I told all of those ppl I was on anti depressants but not that I had been suicidal. I don’t think you know as much as you think you know about others’ lives.

People who express suicidal ideation are not allowed home, generally they are sent to a crisis center and evaluated there. Then admitted to a psych floor.

For suicidal ideation? Nope. Not a chance that you get hospitalized. Not a chance. Must be actively suicidal. Ideations mean nothing. And actively suicidal means nothing. There needs to be a plan. And even that’s not enough. There needs to be a means to carry out the plan. Suicidal ideations gets nothing special.

Welp, they sent us to a crisis center for suicidal ideation. There was no concrete plan and ultimately after 24 hours they sent us home with nothing but a pamphlet of therapist phone numbers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The husbands go fund me is at 1 million dollars. That kind of makes me sick. What does he need that mover for? It doesn’t bring back his kids.

Give it a rest! No one forced anyone to donate. People feel really bad for him obviously. He’ll have to rebuild his whole life and probably pay out of pocket for expensive rehab for Lindsay. Her physical state isn’t even known as she attempted suicide, never mind her mental state or needing to be in an institution.

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[Anonymous]

Then why, if the world sucks so bad, why bring kids into it? I don’t agree at all that life kind of sucks, my life is much better than the life my grandparents lived so I just try to put things into perspective. I am not and refuse to become a victim. Not sure how old you are but I am old enough to have witnessed and known the greatest generation and they would be absolutely appalled at our weakness. It’s a group think victim mentality we’ve all adopted. I try to teach my kids that you aren’t supposed to feel happy constantly, it’s perfectly normal to feel emotions, we need to teach coping skills. It’s okay to feel anxious and depressed after a major life change, it’s not a pathology that needs to be medicated necessarily.

Such a boomer mentality. Income inequality is up. Global warming is unavoidable. Life expectancy is decreasing. I don’t expect my kids to have a better life than I did.

Also, many of the greatest generation had unchecked PTSD after the war. Addressing and treating mental illnesses is not weakness.

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Anonymous wrote:The husbands go fund me is at 1 million dollars. That kind of makes me sick. What does he need that mover for? It doesn’t bring back his kids.

Give it a rest! No one forced anyone to donate. People feel really bad for him obviously. He’ll have to rebuild his whole life and probably pay out of pocket for expensive rehab for Lindsay. Her physical state isn’t even known as she attempted suicide, never mind her mental state or needing to be in an institution.

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NP. I understand no one is being forced to contribute, I just think it's gross that there is such an outpouring of sympathy and financial support for Lindsay and her husband when other mentally ill people who commit crimes are treated as if they are sub-human.