Boycott/ Divest and Pull your College App from All States which violate Our Daughters' Civil Rights

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Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, NC has not banned yet. Neither has VA. NC has a Dem Governor, even

Guess we will see what happens over the next two years.

I think VA is going to swing back, honestly.

Of course, with the Supreme Court on board with this state legislature nonsense, NONE of this matters. Gerrymandered R legislatures Will overturn votes they don’t like in 2024 and the US will have a nationwide ban in 2025.

https://www.axios.com/2022/05/14/abortion-state-laws-bans-roe-supreme-court

yes, here are the laws. For most states it's viability, which was the Roe standard.



Which is why my kids are already starting to think about college abroad. They are even pushing us to move out of the US now.

You do realize that almost every nation abroad has much more restrictive abortion laws than the U.S.?

Nope. You keep trying to push that BS, but it's not true.

It is. It will take you about a minute to google it. Most have term limits and many have some type of waiting period and/or counseling requirement.

European countries with mandatory waiting periods and/or counseling requirements:

Albania
Armenia
Belgium
Bosnia Hertz
Georgia
Germany
Hungary
Ireland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Portugal
Russia
Slovakia
Spain

In a number of these countries, such as Germany and Hungary, laws require biased and directive counselling deliberately intended to influence women’s decision-making and dissuade them from having an abortion.

Still lying. Half the states in the US are rapidly moving toward no abotion at all for any reason except death of the mother.

The list you give isn't remotely comparable.

You are either really obtuse or just plain ignorant, which is supported by you not supporting your lying claims with one iota of fact. Abortion is available in the U.S. up until the moment of birth if you choose to go to a place where it is allowed. Individual states have restrictions, but as a country, it is not as restrictive as most other countries, which actually have fairly strict timelines as well as counseling/waiting periods which we do not. There are multiple, multiple sources on the rights and restrictions in other countries. If you choose to not believe them, that is your problem, but it doesn't make me a liar.

Yes it does. Moment of birth? What kind of nonsense are you spewing? That is not happening unless there is some kind of total life or death emergency.


Overturning Roe by a bunch of old conservative mostly men just shoved our sons and daughters back 50 years. We all had more rights than our daughters now do. It's outrageous.

SO true!


And here's the truth, unlike the garbage the earlier poster was spewing.
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/14/abortion-state-laws-bans-roe-supreme-court

About 93% of reported abortions in 2019 were performed at or before 13 weeks of pregnancy, 6% were conducted between 14 and 20 weeks and 1% were performed at or after 21 weeks, according to the most recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

People who tend to have abortions later in a pregnancy do so because of "medical concerns such as fetal anomalies or maternal life endangerment, as well as barriers to care that cause delays in obtaining an abortion," per the Kaiser Family Foundation.

People aren't waltzing into abortion clinics at 30 weeks just to have an elective abortion.

Per your own link, it is exactly as I stated, abortion is legal up to the point of birth if someone chooses to go to a state where it is available. Did I say people were waltzing in on a regular basis and asking for an abortion at the time of birth? No. I did say it is legal in the U.S., and I was not wrong, and that it is not allowed in other countries, and I AGAIN was not wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, NC has not banned yet. Neither has VA. NC has a Dem Governor, even

Guess we will see what happens over the next two years.

I think VA is going to swing back, honestly.

Of course, with the Supreme Court on board with this state legislature nonsense, NONE of this matters. Gerrymandered R legislatures Will overturn votes they don’t like in 2024 and the US will have a nationwide ban in 2025.

Which is why my kids are already starting to think about college abroad. They are even pushing us to move out of the US now.

You do realize that almost every nation abroad has much more restrictive abortion laws than the U.S.?

Nope. You keep trying to push that BS, but it's not true.

It is. It will take you about a minute to google it. Most have term limits and many have some type of waiting period and/or counseling requirement.

European countries with mandatory waiting periods and/or counseling requirements:

Albania
Armenia
Belgium
Bosnia Hertz
Georgia
Germany
Hungary
Ireland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Portugal
Russia
Slovakia
Spain

In a number of these countries, such as Germany and Hungary, laws require biased and directive counselling deliberately intended to influence women’s decision-making and dissuade them from having an abortion.

Still lying. Half the states in the US are rapidly moving toward no abotion at all for any reason except death of the mother.

The list you give isn't remotely comparable.

You are either really obtuse or just plain ignorant, which is supported by you not supporting your lying claims with one iota of fact. Abortion is available in the U.S. up until the moment of birth if you choose to go to a place where it is allowed. Individual states have restrictions, but as a country, it is not as restrictive as most other countries, which actually have fairly strict timelines as well as counseling/waiting periods which we do not. There are multiple, multiple sources on the rights and restrictions in other countries. If you choose to not believe them, that is your problem, but it doesn't make me a liar.

I am quite well informed. And you are wrong.

Well, the facts show quite the opposite.

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Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, NC has not banned yet. Neither has VA. NC has a Dem Governor, even

Guess we will see what happens over the next two years.

I think VA is going to swing back, honestly.

Of course, with the Supreme Court on board with this state legislature nonsense, NONE of this matters. Gerrymandered R legislatures Will overturn votes they don’t like in 2024 and the US will have a nationwide ban in 2025.

https://www.axios.com/2022/05/14/abortion-state-laws-bans-roe-supreme-court

yes, here are the laws. For most states it's viability, which was the Roe standard.



Which is why my kids are already starting to think about college abroad. They are even pushing us to move out of the US now.

You do realize that almost every nation abroad has much more restrictive abortion laws than the U.S.?

Nope. You keep trying to push that BS, but it's not true.

It is. It will take you about a minute to google it. Most have term limits and many have some type of waiting period and/or counseling requirement.

European countries with mandatory waiting periods and/or counseling requirements:

Albania
Armenia
Belgium
Bosnia Hertz
Georgia
Germany
Hungary
Ireland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Portugal
Russia
Slovakia
Spain

In a number of these countries, such as Germany and Hungary, laws require biased and directive counselling deliberately intended to influence women’s decision-making and dissuade them from having an abortion.

Still lying. Half the states in the US are rapidly moving toward no abotion at all for any reason except death of the mother.

The list you give isn't remotely comparable.

You are either really obtuse or just plain ignorant, which is supported by you not supporting your lying claims with one iota of fact. Abortion is available in the U.S. up until the moment of birth if you choose to go to a place where it is allowed. Individual states have restrictions, but as a country, it is not as restrictive as most other countries, which actually have fairly strict timelines as well as counseling/waiting periods which we do not. There are multiple, multiple sources on the rights and restrictions in other countries. If you choose to not believe them, that is your problem, but it doesn't make me a liar.

Yes it does. Moment of birth? What kind of nonsense are you spewing? That is not happening unless there is some kind of total life or death emergency.


Overturning Roe by a bunch of old conservative mostly men just shoved our sons and daughters back 50 years. We all had more rights than our daughters now do. It's outrageous.

SO true!


And here's the truth, unlike the garbage the earlier poster was spewing.
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/14/abortion-state-laws-bans-roe-supreme-court

About 93% of reported abortions in 2019 were performed at or before 13 weeks of pregnancy, 6% were conducted between 14 and 20 weeks and 1% were performed at or after 21 weeks, according to the most recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

People who tend to have abortions later in a pregnancy do so because of "medical concerns such as fetal anomalies or maternal life endangerment, as well as barriers to care that cause delays in obtaining an abortion," per the Kaiser Family Foundation.

People aren't waltzing into abortion clinics at 30 weeks just to have an elective abortion.

Per your own link, it is exactly as I stated, abortion is legal up to the point of birth if someone chooses to go to a state where it is available. Did I say people were waltzing in on a regular basis and asking for an abortion at the time of birth? No. I did say it is legal in the U.S., and I was not wrong, and that it is not allowed in other countries, and I AGAIN was not wrong.

You can try to twist this situation into whatever fantasy you like but the fact is, we were just stripoed of a fundamental right held for almost 50 years and people are rightfully outraged. That is the truth.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, pro-lifers - no matter what you want to believe, this is already in motion and it's far bigger than DCUM. You can't and won't stop this by going on a message board and calling everyone "nutjobs."

Your states *will* and already are losing revenue as will companies based in your states, and that's entirely the fault of you pro-lifers.

Poll after poll shows that this is not the issue to most people you want it to be. It's just not.

It is. Many products and services will suffer the date of my pillow if they don't push back against this insanity. People are very very angry.

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VERY angry.

Barely more than half oppose the SC decision, and less than half strongly oppose it. Only a slim margin of I's oppose and most R's agree. This was right after the decision. It will fade as an issue except for people who were already going to vote D anyway.

"By a 56%-to-40% margin, respondents oppose the court's decision, including 45% who strongly oppose it.

Almost 9-in-10 Democrats and a slim majority of independents (53%) are against the decision. Three-quarters of Republicans, on the other hand, support it."

Better hope that enough to support all these companies, colleges and other institutions because many of us are moving on to places and companies with more respect for women's rights.

Your individual anecdotal decision does not mean the majority of people agree with you. For most people, life goes on. Many of these states already had pretty restrictive abortion laws and were doing just fine. Polls show it is just not a top priority for most.

That is because people have their head in the sand. Once the impact starts to prevent more and more people from accessing healthcare and from enjoying healthy sex lives, people will realize all they have lost.

My lawyer and doctor friends say it's already a sh"tshow.

You don't think you can have a healthy sex life without being able to have an abortion?

You sound like an ignoramus that has never mentruated or been pregnant, or given birth, or had a miscarriage, or struggled to get pregnant, or dealt with dozens of other female reproductive issues. You sound clueless.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, pro-lifers - no matter what you want to believe, this is already in motion and it's far bigger than DCUM. You can't and won't stop this by going on a message board and calling everyone "nutjobs."

Your states *will* and already are losing revenue as will companies based in your states, and that's entirely the fault of you pro-lifers.

How do you explain the mass exodus from CA, NY, IL, etc. to FL and TX?

How do you explain today’s news about employment rates in Red states outshining Blue states post-covid?

Btw, I’m a Dem. But I read all the news and I don’t cherry-pick stats to support my thinking. Rather, I strive to step back to see the bigger picture and connect the dots.

You should try it. Everyone should…especially our Dem leaders who should be working 24/7 on capitalizing on this moment to win midterms.

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Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, NC has not banned yet. Neither has VA. NC has a Dem Governor, even

Guess we will see what happens over the next two years.

I think VA is going to swing back, honestly.

Of course, with the Supreme Court on board with this state legislature nonsense, NONE of this matters. Gerrymandered R legislatures Will overturn votes they don’t like in 2024 and the US will have a nationwide ban in 2025.

https://www.axios.com/2022/05/14/abortion-state-laws-bans-roe-supreme-court

yes, here are the laws. For most states it's viability, which was the Roe standard.



Which is why my kids are already starting to think about college abroad. They are even pushing us to move out of the US now.

You do realize that almost every nation abroad has much more restrictive abortion laws than the U.S.?

Nope. You keep trying to push that BS, but it's not true.

It is. It will take you about a minute to google it. Most have term limits and many have some type of waiting period and/or counseling requirement.

European countries with mandatory waiting periods and/or counseling requirements:

Albania
Armenia
Belgium
Bosnia Hertz
Georgia
Germany
Hungary
Ireland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Portugal
Russia
Slovakia
Spain

In a number of these countries, such as Germany and Hungary, laws require biased and directive counselling deliberately intended to influence women’s decision-making and dissuade them from having an abortion.

Still lying. Half the states in the US are rapidly moving toward no abotion at all for any reason except death of the mother.

The list you give isn't remotely comparable.

You are either really obtuse or just plain ignorant, which is supported by you not supporting your lying claims with one iota of fact. Abortion is available in the U.S. up until the moment of birth if you choose to go to a place where it is allowed. Individual states have restrictions, but as a country, it is not as restrictive as most other countries, which actually have fairly strict timelines as well as counseling/waiting periods which we do not. There are multiple, multiple sources on the rights and restrictions in other countries. If you choose to not believe them, that is your problem, but it doesn't make me a liar.

Yes it does. Moment of birth? What kind of nonsense are you spewing? That is not happening unless there is some kind of total life or death emergency.


Overturning Roe by a bunch of old conservative mostly men just shoved our sons and daughters back 50 years. We all had more rights than our daughters now do. It's outrageous.

SO true!


And here's the truth, unlike the garbage the earlier poster was spewing.
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/14/abortion-state-laws-bans-roe-supreme-court

About 93% of reported abortions in 2019 were performed at or before 13 weeks of pregnancy, 6% were conducted between 14 and 20 weeks and 1% were performed at or after 21 weeks, according to the most recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

People who tend to have abortions later in a pregnancy do so because of "medical concerns such as fetal anomalies or maternal life endangerment, as well as barriers to care that cause delays in obtaining an abortion," per the Kaiser Family Foundation.

People aren't waltzing into abortion clinics at 30 weeks just to have an elective abortion.

Per your own link, it is exactly as I stated, abortion is legal up to the point of birth if someone chooses to go to a state where it is available. Did I say people were waltzing in on a regular basis and asking for an abortion at the time of birth? No. I did say it is legal in the U.S., and I was not wrong, and that it is not allowed in other countries, and I AGAIN was not wrong.

It is legal because the law cannot contemplate ALL the unique and extremely complicated medical circumstances that lead to an abortion in the third trimester. We allow highly trained medical professionals to make these decisions in conjunction with the mother/family. There are strict ethical standards. Enough with the nonsense, we know you are going for a total ban on abortions, you want to prevent abortion in the first trimester.

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Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, NC has not banned yet. Neither has VA. NC has a Dem Governor, even

Guess we will see what happens over the next two years.

I think VA is going to swing back, honestly.

Of course, with the Supreme Court on board with this state legislature nonsense, NONE of this matters. Gerrymandered R legislatures Will overturn votes they don’t like in 2024 and the US will have a nationwide ban in 2025.

Which is why my kids are already starting to think about college abroad. They are even pushing us to move out of the US now.

You do realize that almost every nation abroad has much more restrictive abortion laws than the U.S.?

This is disinformation - clearly some parties know they are on their heels in this moral argument

Face it: even Ireland - one of the most Catholic nations on Earth- where St Patrick spread Christianity and where the book of Kells was created has recognized and enshrined into law - by public referendum no less- that a Woman has autonomy over her own body

ALL of the civilized Western Countries of the world agree: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/03/world/abortion-laws-international.html

States like TN, Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, MO, Mississippi, SD and Ohio have stated that they wish to be ideologically linked to the likes of Yemen, Afghanistan, Nicaragua - backwaters

Their actions to enshrine in their laws that " the state controls a woman's body - or in some cases the body of a raped 10 year old" and that " this is a states rights issue not a human rights issue" is the same argument these same states used to cling to Slavery in the 19th century

Divest from them - they are extremely backward and most certainly do not risk your daughter's safety, her control over her own body and her own future by paying your hard earned 1/4 of a Million $$$$$ to send your daughter ( or son) to Universities in these backward states

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Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, NC has not banned yet. Neither has VA. NC has a Dem Governor, even

Guess we will see what happens over the next two years.

I think VA is going to swing back, honestly.

Of course, with the Supreme Court on board with this state legislature nonsense, NONE of this matters. Gerrymandered R legislatures Will overturn votes they don’t like in 2024 and the US will have a nationwide ban in 2025.

https://www.axios.com/2022/05/14/abortion-state-laws-bans-roe-supreme-court

yes, here are the laws. For most states it's viability, which was the Roe standard.



Which is why my kids are already starting to think about college abroad. They are even pushing us to move out of the US now.

You do realize that almost every nation abroad has much more restrictive abortion laws than the U.S.?

Nope. You keep trying to push that BS, but it's not true.

It is. It will take you about a minute to google it. Most have term limits and many have some type of waiting period and/or counseling requirement.

European countries with mandatory waiting periods and/or counseling requirements:

Albania
Armenia
Belgium
Bosnia Hertz
Georgia
Germany
Hungary
Ireland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Portugal
Russia
Slovakia
Spain

In a number of these countries, such as Germany and Hungary, laws require biased and directive counselling deliberately intended to influence women’s decision-making and dissuade them from having an abortion.

Still lying. Half the states in the US are rapidly moving toward no abotion at all for any reason except death of the mother.

The list you give isn't remotely comparable.

You are either really obtuse or just plain ignorant, which is supported by you not supporting your lying claims with one iota of fact. Abortion is available in the U.S. up until the moment of birth if you choose to go to a place where it is allowed. Individual states have restrictions, but as a country, it is not as restrictive as most other countries, which actually have fairly strict timelines as well as counseling/waiting periods which we do not. There are multiple, multiple sources on the rights and restrictions in other countries. If you choose to not believe them, that is your problem, but it doesn't make me a liar.

Yes it does. Moment of birth? What kind of nonsense are you spewing? That is not happening unless there is some kind of total life or death emergency.


Overturning Roe by a bunch of old conservative mostly men just shoved our sons and daughters back 50 years. We all had more rights than our daughters now do. It's outrageous.

SO true!


And here's the truth, unlike the garbage the earlier poster was spewing.
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/14/abortion-state-laws-bans-roe-supreme-court

About 93% of reported abortions in 2019 were performed at or before 13 weeks of pregnancy, 6% were conducted between 14 and 20 weeks and 1% were performed at or after 21 weeks, according to the most recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

People who tend to have abortions later in a pregnancy do so because of "medical concerns such as fetal anomalies or maternal life endangerment, as well as barriers to care that cause delays in obtaining an abortion," per the Kaiser Family Foundation.

People aren't waltzing into abortion clinics at 30 weeks just to have an elective abortion.

Per your own link, it is exactly as I stated, abortion is legal up to the point of birth if someone chooses to go to a state where it is available. Did I say people were waltzing in on a regular basis and asking for an abortion at the time of birth? No. I did say it is legal in the U.S., and I was not wrong, and that it is not allowed in other countries, and I AGAIN was not wrong.

Again YOU ARE WRONG, because those European countries allow termination until the end if there's a problem with life for the mother or a deformed fetus.

Abortion is illegal under Section 218 of the German criminal code, and punishable by up to three years in prison (or up to five years for "reckless" abortions or those against the pregnant woman's will). Section 218a of the German criminal code, called Exception to liability for abortion, makes an exception for abortions with counseling in the first trimester, and for medically necessary abortions and abortions due to unlawful sexual acts (such as sexual abuse of a minor or rape) thereafter.[1][2]

Also, take a look at the penalty. It's 3 years. A totally different line in the sand than what Red states are pushing now.

1 percent of U.S. abortions are in the last trimester. And those are there because something has gone very wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, pro-lifers - no matter what you want to believe, this is already in motion and it's far bigger than DCUM. You can't and won't stop this by going on a message board and calling everyone "nutjobs."

Your states *will* and already are losing revenue as will companies based in your states, and that's entirely the fault of you pro-lifers.

Poll after poll shows that this is not the issue to most people you want it to be. It's just not.

It is. Many products and services will suffer the date of my pillow if they don't push back against this insanity. People are very very angry.

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VERY angry.

Barely more than half oppose the SC decision, and less than half strongly oppose it. Only a slim margin of I's oppose and most R's agree. This was right after the decision. It will fade as an issue except for people who were already going to vote D anyway.

"By a 56%-to-40% margin, respondents oppose the court's decision, including 45% who strongly oppose it.

Almost 9-in-10 Democrats and a slim majority of independents (53%) are against the decision. Three-quarters of Republicans, on the other hand, support it."

Better hope that enough to support all these companies, colleges and other institutions because many of us are moving on to places and companies with more respect for women's rights.

Your individual anecdotal decision does not mean the majority of people agree with you. For most people, life goes on. Many of these states already had pretty restrictive abortion laws and were doing just fine. Polls show it is just not a top priority for most.

That is because people have their head in the sand. Once the impact starts to prevent more and more people from accessing healthcare and from enjoying healthy sex lives, people will realize all they have lost.

My lawyer and doctor friends say it's already a sh"tshow.

You don't think you can have a healthy sex life without being able to have an abortion?

Abortion is health care. No one can have a healthy sex life without it.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, pro-lifers - no matter what you want to believe, this is already in motion and it's far bigger than DCUM. You can't and won't stop this by going on a message board and calling everyone "nutjobs."

Your states *will* and already are losing revenue as will companies based in your states, and that's entirely the fault of you pro-lifers.

Poll after poll shows that this is not the issue to most people you want it to be. It's just not.

It is. Many products and services will suffer the date of my pillow if they don't push back against this insanity. People are very very angry.

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VERY angry.

Barely more than half oppose the SC decision, and less than half strongly oppose it. Only a slim margin of I's oppose and most R's agree. This was right after the decision. It will fade as an issue except for people who were already going to vote D anyway.

"By a 56%-to-40% margin, respondents oppose the court's decision, including 45% who strongly oppose it.

Almost 9-in-10 Democrats and a slim majority of independents (53%) are against the decision. Three-quarters of Republicans, on the other hand, support it."

Better hope that enough to support all these companies, colleges and other institutions because many of us are moving on to places and companies with more respect for women's rights.

Your individual anecdotal decision does not mean the majority of people agree with you. For most people, life goes on. Many of these states already had pretty restrictive abortion laws and were doing just fine. Polls show it is just not a top priority for most.

That is because people have their head in the sand. Once the impact starts to prevent more and more people from accessing healthcare and from enjoying healthy sex lives, people will realize all they have lost.

My lawyer and doctor friends say it's already a sh"tshow.

You don't think you can have a healthy sex life without being able to have an abortion?

No, because I would live in a constant state of fear. My mother was forced to give birth to me. I know how traumatizing it was for her. I know how she was treated.

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Anonymous wrote:Hahah - enjoy your bus boycott

The Bus boycott was 60 years ago and was successful, btw

But 60 years later we are Corp Lawyers with decades of experience as litigators and we will bring Tennessee to its knees as an Example to all other states that violate our civil rights and make felons of our daughters

Haha. Good luck waging your boycott on the Volunteer State.

Btw, what rights is TN poised to “violate.” Is the Supreme Court no longer the arbiter of the law of the land?

You don't seem to get it- corporate women and female corp lawyers don't need to debate your ilk because you have no influence over TN's economy

We will take our case to the Swedish , Dutch and German corporations- all very socially progressive countries- that the state of Tennessee has chosen to make itself completely financially dependent upon for jobs, investment and tax revenue.

You just don't get it and neither do the 5 SCOTUS " judges" - this isn't 1972 America and corp and state's finances are waaaay more dependent on foreign Investment now and women are now litigators..... legions of litigators.

We are never going back to Women dying of illegal abortions, being denied health care and being sentenced as Felons for exercising self autonomy

Starting with TN and Vanderbilt University and making them the 1st Example of what is going to happen to every Red state

You are nice to explain this. The other poster seems dumb as a rock because they don’t seem to understand foreign investment and why it would hurt TN not to have it. Good Lord.

DP

It’s hilarious that you think foreign investors (or any investors) care about American politics regarding abortion.

My former employer, an MNC, divested out of Venezuela and Russia a couple years before each country imploded. They monitor political risk aggressively. Most big businesses are monitoring this very carefully. Countries or states that regress don’t have a good for business environment.

Yeah yeah, Alabama is the new Venezuela! GM has halted its new ev plant in TN. It’s happening!

Interestingly, Manchin flew into Birmingham the Friday when the decision came down.

He might have been meeting with corporate leaders or even Bama (he’s the BFF of the football coach, and Bama is a business).

Damage control?

More reason to Divest from the state of TN: it seems the state's political leadership put forward the law lower the age of marriage from 16 to 15 ( or perhaps making no minimum age ) is also an attempt to float into that bill language that " marriage" is only between a man and a woman

So, TN, is trying to take away right to marriage protections ( right to inherit, right to make end of life medical decisions, right to raise children as child support paying parents ) from same sex couples: https://www.newsweek.com/tennessee-marriage-bill-that-sparked-outcry-lacking-age-minimum-dead-1697773

Absolutely narrow minded, backward thinking AND financial suicide for this state - TONS of Gays in Tech, Finance and Corp world- TONS

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Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, NC has not banned yet. Neither has VA. NC has a Dem Governor, even

Guess we will see what happens over the next two years.

I think VA is going to swing back, honestly.

Of course, with the Supreme Court on board with this state legislature nonsense, NONE of this matters. Gerrymandered R legislatures Will overturn votes they don’t like in 2024 and the US will have a nationwide ban in 2025.

Which is why my kids are already starting to think about college abroad. They are even pushing us to move out of the US now.

You do realize that almost every nation abroad has much more restrictive abortion laws than the U.S.?

Nope. You keep trying to push that BS, but it's not true.

It is. It will take you about a minute to google it. Most have term limits and many have some type of waiting period and/or counseling requirement.

European countries with mandatory waiting periods and/or counseling requirements:

Albania
Armenia
Belgium
Bosnia Hertz
Georgia
Germany
Hungary
Ireland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Portugal
Russia
Slovakia
Spain

In a number of these countries, such as Germany and Hungary, laws require biased and directive counselling deliberately intended to influence women’s decision-making and dissuade them from having an abortion.

Still lying. Half the states in the US are rapidly moving toward no abotion at all for any reason except death of the mother.

The list you give isn't remotely comparable.

You are either really obtuse or just plain ignorant, which is supported by you not supporting your lying claims with one iota of fact. Abortion is available in the U.S. up until the moment of birth if you choose to go to a place where it is allowed. Individual states have restrictions, but as a country, it is not as restrictive as most other countries, which actually have fairly strict timelines as well as counseling/waiting periods which we do not. There are multiple, multiple sources on the rights and restrictions in other countries. If you choose to not believe them, that is your problem, but it doesn't make me a liar.

We are only as free as our weakest link.

If abortion is banned anywhere in the US then women are being oppressed. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, pro-lifers - no matter what you want to believe, this is already in motion and it's far bigger than DCUM. You can't and won't stop this by going on a message board and calling everyone "nutjobs."

Your states *will* and already are losing revenue as will companies based in your states, and that's entirely the fault of you pro-lifers.

How do you explain the mass exodus from CA, NY, IL, etc. to FL and TX?

How do you explain today’s news about employment rates in Red states outshining Blue states post-covid?

Btw, I’m a Dem. But I read all the news and I don’t cherry-pick stats to support my thinking. Rather, I strive to step back to see the bigger picture and connect the dots.

You should try it. Everyone should…especially our Dem leaders who should be working 24/7 on capitalizing on this moment to win midterms.

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I’m in CA and people have been flooding back. It’s actually annoying. I wish they’d stay in the red states. Traffic was better.

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I am a 45 yo woman in VA with an IUD. I am considering requesting my husband get a vasectomy because I am so terrified of what is to come here. He was willing to get one before I had my second IUD placed, but I told him it was fine because I was ok with the IUD and the benefits to me (hormones as I age, no true period, etc). But if it fails NOW?

And this is just so that my husband of almost 20 year and I can feel safe being sexually active

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Anonymous wrote:Look, pro-lifers - no matter what you want to believe, this is already in motion and it's far bigger than DCUM. You can't and won't stop this by going on a message board and calling everyone "nutjobs."

Your states *will* and already are losing revenue as will companies based in your states, and that's entirely the fault of you pro-lifers.

Poll after poll shows that this is not the issue to most people you want it to be. It's just not.

It is. Many products and services will suffer the date of my pillow if they don't push back against this insanity. People are very very angry.

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VERY angry.

Barely more than half oppose the SC decision, and less than half strongly oppose it. Only a slim margin of I's oppose and most R's agree. This was right after the decision. It will fade as an issue except for people who were already going to vote D anyway.

"By a 56%-to-40% margin, respondents oppose the court's decision, including 45% who strongly oppose it.

Almost 9-in-10 Democrats and a slim majority of independents (53%) are against the decision. Three-quarters of Republicans, on the other hand, support it."

Better hope that enough to support all these companies, colleges and other institutions because many of us are moving on to places and companies with more respect for women's rights.

Your individual anecdotal decision does not mean the majority of people agree with you. For most people, life goes on. Many of these states already had pretty restrictive abortion laws and were doing just fine. Polls show it is just not a top priority for most.

Go buy a tesla or my pillow if you want. Lots of consumers out here will say no thanks.

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And, as PP states, MOST consumers will say who cares? - and buy A Tesla or send a child to Vandy. As an example - Facebook and all of its documented harm to elections, to children, aiding violence Etc etc. and yet no reports of a mass boycott.

you mean the very rich people? because "normal" people cannot buy a tesla or send a kid to vandy

Model 3 was $35k and the majority of people at V get some kind of financial aid.