Boycott/ Divest and Pull your College App from All States which violate Our Daughters' Civil Rights

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Anonymous wrote:Look, pro-lifers - no matter what you want to believe, this is already in motion and it's far bigger than DCUM. You can't and won't stop this by going on a message board and calling everyone "nutjobs."

Your states *will* and already are losing revenue as will companies based in your states, and that's entirely the fault of you pro-lifers.

Poll after poll shows that this is not the issue to most people you want it to be. It's just not.

It is. Many products and services will suffer the date of my pillow if they don't push back against this insanity. People are very very angry.

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VERY angry.

Barely more than half oppose the SC decision, and less than half strongly oppose it. Only a slim margin of I's oppose and most R's agree. This was right after the decision. It will fade as an issue except for people who were already going to vote D anyway.

"By a 56%-to-40% margin, respondents oppose the court's decision, including 45% who strongly oppose it.

Almost 9-in-10 Democrats and a slim majority of independents (53%) are against the decision. Three-quarters of Republicans, on the other hand, support it."

Better hope that enough to support all these companies, colleges and other institutions because many of us are moving on to places and companies with more respect for women's rights.

Your individual anecdotal decision does not mean the majority of people agree with you. For most people, life goes on. Many of these states already had pretty restrictive abortion laws and were doing just fine. Polls show it is just not a top priority for most.

Go buy a tesla or my pillow if you want. Lots of consumers out here will say no thanks.

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And, as PP states, MOST consumers will say who cares? - and buy A Tesla or send a child to Vandy. As an example - Facebook and all of its documented harm to elections, to children, aiding violence Etc etc. and yet no reports of a mass boycott.

Facebook is a tough one but it is easy to choose a differ car, pillow, college, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, pro-lifers - no matter what you want to believe, this is already in motion and it's far bigger than DCUM. You can't and won't stop this by going on a message board and calling everyone "nutjobs."

Your states *will* and already are losing revenue as will companies based in your states, and that's entirely the fault of you pro-lifers.

Poll after poll shows that this is not the issue to most people you want it to be. It's just not.

It is. Many products and services will suffer the date of my pillow if they don't push back against this insanity. People are very very angry.

+1

VERY angry.

Barely more than half oppose the SC decision, and less than half strongly oppose it. Only a slim margin of I's oppose and most R's agree. This was right after the decision. It will fade as an issue except for people who were already going to vote D anyway.

"By a 56%-to-40% margin, respondents oppose the court's decision, including 45% who strongly oppose it.

Almost 9-in-10 Democrats and a slim majority of independents (53%) are against the decision. Three-quarters of Republicans, on the other hand, support it."

Better hope that enough to support all these companies, colleges and other institutions because many of us are moving on to places and companies with more respect for women's rights.

Your individual anecdotal decision does not mean the majority of people agree with you. For most people, life goes on. Many of these states already had pretty restrictive abortion laws and were doing just fine. Polls show it is just not a top priority for most.

Go buy a tesla or my pillow if you want. Lots of consumers out here will say no thanks.

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And, as PP states, MOST consumers will say who cares? - and buy A Tesla or send a child to Vandy. As an example - Facebook and all of its documented harm to elections, to children, aiding violence Etc etc. and yet no reports of a mass boycott.

you mean the very rich people? because "normal" people cannot buy a tesla or send a kid to vandy

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Anonymous wrote:Hahah - enjoy your bus boycott

The Bus boycott was 60 years ago and was successful, btw

But 60 years later we are Corp Lawyers with decades of experience as litigators and we will bring Tennessee to its knees as an Example to all other states that violate our civil rights and make felons of our daughters

Haha. Good luck waging your boycott on the Volunteer State.

Btw, what rights is TN poised to “violate.” Is the Supreme Court no longer the arbiter of the law of the land?

You don't seem to get it- corporate women and female corp lawyers don't need to debate your ilk because you have no influence over TN's economy

We will take our case to the Swedish , Dutch and German corporations- all very socially progressive countries- that the state of Tennessee has chosen to make itself completely financially dependent upon for jobs, investment and tax revenue.

You just don't get it and neither do the 5 SCOTUS " judges" - this isn't 1972 America and corp and state's finances are waaaay more dependent on foreign Investment now and women are now litigators..... legions of litigators.

We are never going back to Women dying of illegal abortions, being denied health care and being sentenced as Felons for exercising self autonomy

Starting with TN and Vanderbilt University and making them the 1st Example of what is going to happen to every Red state

You are nice to explain this. The other poster seems dumb as a rock because they don’t seem to understand foreign investment and why it would hurt TN not to have it. Good Lord.

DP

It’s hilarious that you think foreign investors (or any investors) care about American politics regarding abortion.

My former employer, an MNC, divested out of Venezuela and Russia a couple years before each country imploded. They monitor political risk aggressively. Most big businesses are monitoring this very carefully. Countries or states that regress don’t have a good for business environment.

Your former employer was wise given the risk in Venezuela and Russia.

Surely you realize the risk of investing in TN is not the same.

FWIW, I know at least one global law firm that quietly restructured its ties in Russia: publicly-facing brand made a show of leaving while setting up an offshoot partnership. Win-win. Sigh.

Businesses are driven by business, not emotion or ethics. Profit trumps everything.

[Anonymous]

Disney would have suffered if they did not stand up to desantis smacking the lgbtq community around. A bunch of trumpers and oblivious fools are not enough to keep that operation going. They need democratic employees and consumers.

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Anonymous wrote:Hahah - enjoy your bus boycott

The Bus boycott was 60 years ago and was successful, btw

But 60 years later we are Corp Lawyers with decades of experience as litigators and we will bring Tennessee to its knees as an Example to all other states that violate our civil rights and make felons of our daughters

Haha. Good luck waging your boycott on the Volunteer State.

Btw, what rights is TN poised to “violate.” Is the Supreme Court no longer the arbiter of the law of the land?

You don't seem to get it- corporate women and female corp lawyers don't need to debate your ilk because you have no influence over TN's economy

We will take our case to the Swedish , Dutch and German corporations- all very socially progressive countries- that the state of Tennessee has chosen to make itself completely financially dependent upon for jobs, investment and tax revenue.

You just don't get it and neither do the 5 SCOTUS " judges" - this isn't 1972 America and corp and state's finances are waaaay more dependent on foreign Investment now and women are now litigators..... legions of litigators.

We are never going back to Women dying of illegal abortions, being denied health care and being sentenced as Felons for exercising self autonomy

Starting with TN and Vanderbilt University and making them the 1st Example of what is going to happen to every Red state

You are nice to explain this. The other poster seems dumb as a rock because they don’t seem to understand foreign investment and why it would hurt TN not to have it. Good Lord.

DP

It’s hilarious that you think foreign investors (or any investors) care about American politics regarding abortion.

My former employer, an MNC, divested out of Venezuela and Russia a couple years before each country imploded. They monitor political risk aggressively. Most big businesses are monitoring this very carefully. Countries or states that regress don’t have a good for business environment.

Yeah yeah, Alabama is the new Venezuela! GM has halted its new ev plant in TN. It’s happening!

Interestingly, Manchin flew into Birmingham the Friday when the decision came down.

He might have been meeting with corporate leaders or even Bama (he’s the BFF of the football coach, and Bama is a business).

Damage control?

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Anonymous wrote:Hahah - enjoy your bus boycott

The Bus boycott was 60 years ago and was successful, btw

But 60 years later we are Corp Lawyers with decades of experience as litigators and we will bring Tennessee to its knees as an Example to all other states that violate our civil rights and make felons of our daughters

Haha. Good luck waging your boycott on the Volunteer State.

Btw, what rights is TN poised to “violate.” Is the Supreme Court no longer the arbiter of the law of the land?

You don't seem to get it- corporate women and female corp lawyers don't need to debate your ilk because you have no influence over TN's economy

We will take our case to the Swedish , Dutch and German corporations- all very socially progressive countries- that the state of Tennessee has chosen to make itself completely financially dependent upon for jobs, investment and tax revenue.

You just don't get it and neither do the 5 SCOTUS " judges" - this isn't 1972 America and corp and state's finances are waaaay more dependent on foreign Investment now and women are now litigators..... legions of litigators.

We are never going back to Women dying of illegal abortions, being denied health care and being sentenced as Felons for exercising self autonomy

Starting with TN and Vanderbilt University and making them the 1st Example of what is going to happen to every Red state

You are nice to explain this. The other poster seems dumb as a rock because they don’t seem to understand foreign investment and why it would hurt TN not to have it. Good Lord.

DP

It’s hilarious that you think foreign investors (or any investors) care about American politics regarding abortion.

My former employer, an MNC, divested out of Venezuela and Russia a couple years before each country imploded. They monitor political risk aggressively. Most big businesses are monitoring this very carefully. Countries or states that regress don’t have a good for business environment.

Your former employer was wise given the risk in Venezuela and Russia.

Surely you realize the risk of investing in TN is not the same.

FWIW, I know at least one global law firm that quietly restructured its ties in Russia: publicly-facing brand made a show of leaving while setting up an offshoot partnership. Win-win. Sigh.

Businesses are driven by business, not emotion or ethics. Profit trumps everything.

Yes and if mc d kept selling burgers in russia, they knew they would see less here so they left.

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Anonymous wrote:Disney would have suffered if they did not stand up to desantis smacking the lgbtq community around. A bunch of trumpers and oblivious fools are not enough to keep that operation going. They need democratic employees and consumers.

Many more people care about Disney than Vandy.

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Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, NC has not banned yet. Neither has VA. NC has a Dem Governor, even

Guess we will see what happens over the next two years.

I think VA is going to swing back, honestly.

Of course, with the Supreme Court on board with this state legislature nonsense, NONE of this matters. Gerrymandered R legislatures Will overturn votes they don’t like in 2024 and the US will have a nationwide ban in 2025.

Which is why my kids are already starting to think about college abroad. They are even pushing us to move out of the US now.

You do realize that almost every nation abroad has much more restrictive abortion laws than the U.S.?

Nope. You keep trying to push that BS, but it's not true.

It is. It will take you about a minute to google it. Most have term limits and many have some type of waiting period and/or counseling requirement.

European countries with mandatory waiting periods and/or counseling requirements:

Albania
Armenia
Belgium
Bosnia Hertz
Georgia
Germany
Hungary
Ireland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Portugal
Russia
Slovakia
Spain

In a number of these countries, such as Germany and Hungary, laws require biased and directive counselling deliberately intended to influence women’s decision-making and dissuade them from having an abortion.

Still lying. Half the states in the US are rapidly moving toward no abotion at all for any reason except death of the mother.

The list you give isn't remotely comparable.

You are either really obtuse or just plain ignorant, which is supported by you not supporting your lying claims with one iota of fact. Abortion is available in the U.S. up until the moment of birth if you choose to go to a place where it is allowed. Individual states have restrictions, but as a country, it is not as restrictive as most other countries, which actually have fairly strict timelines as well as counseling/waiting periods which we do not. There are multiple, multiple sources on the rights and restrictions in other countries. If you choose to not believe them, that is your problem, but it doesn't make me a liar.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, pro-lifers - no matter what you want to believe, this is already in motion and it's far bigger than DCUM. You can't and won't stop this by going on a message board and calling everyone "nutjobs."

Your states *will* and already are losing revenue as will companies based in your states, and that's entirely the fault of you pro-lifers.

Poll after poll shows that this is not the issue to most people you want it to be. It's just not.

It is. Many products and services will suffer the date of my pillow if they don't push back against this insanity. People are very very angry.

+1

VERY angry.

Barely more than half oppose the SC decision, and less than half strongly oppose it. Only a slim margin of I's oppose and most R's agree. This was right after the decision. It will fade as an issue except for people who were already going to vote D anyway.

"By a 56%-to-40% margin, respondents oppose the court's decision, including 45% who strongly oppose it.

Almost 9-in-10 Democrats and a slim majority of independents (53%) are against the decision. Three-quarters of Republicans, on the other hand, support it."

Better hope that enough to support all these companies, colleges and other institutions because many of us are moving on to places and companies with more respect for women's rights.

Your individual anecdotal decision does not mean the majority of people agree with you. For most people, life goes on. Many of these states already had pretty restrictive abortion laws and were doing just fine. Polls show it is just not a top priority for most.

That is because people have their head in the sand. Once the impact starts to prevent more and more people from accessing healthcare and from enjoying healthy sex lives, people will realize all they have lost.

My lawyer and doctor friends say it's already a sh"tshow.

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Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, NC has not banned yet. Neither has VA. NC has a Dem Governor, even

Guess we will see what happens over the next two years.

I think VA is going to swing back, honestly.

Of course, with the Supreme Court on board with this state legislature nonsense, NONE of this matters. Gerrymandered R legislatures Will overturn votes they don’t like in 2024 and the US will have a nationwide ban in 2025.

Which is why my kids are already starting to think about college abroad. They are even pushing us to move out of the US now.

You do realize that almost every nation abroad has much more restrictive abortion laws than the U.S.?

Nope. You keep trying to push that BS, but it's not true.

It is. It will take you about a minute to google it. Most have term limits and many have some type of waiting period and/or counseling requirement.

European countries with mandatory waiting periods and/or counseling requirements:

Albania
Armenia
Belgium
Bosnia Hertz
Georgia
Germany
Hungary
Ireland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Portugal
Russia
Slovakia
Spain

In a number of these countries, such as Germany and Hungary, laws require biased and directive counselling deliberately intended to influence women’s decision-making and dissuade them from having an abortion.

Still lying. Half the states in the US are rapidly moving toward no abotion at all for any reason except death of the mother.

The list you give isn't remotely comparable.

You are either really obtuse or just plain ignorant, which is supported by you not supporting your lying claims with one iota of fact. Abortion is available in the U.S. up until the moment of birth if you choose to go to a place where it is allowed. Individual states have restrictions, but as a country, it is not as restrictive as most other countries, which actually have fairly strict timelines as well as counseling/waiting periods which we do not. There are multiple, multiple sources on the rights and restrictions in other countries. If you choose to not believe them, that is your problem, but it doesn't make me a liar.

I am quite well informed. And you are wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, NC has not banned yet. Neither has VA. NC has a Dem Governor, even

Guess we will see what happens over the next two years.

I think VA is going to swing back, honestly.

Of course, with the Supreme Court on board with this state legislature nonsense, NONE of this matters. Gerrymandered R legislatures Will overturn votes they don’t like in 2024 and the US will have a nationwide ban in 2025.

Which is why my kids are already starting to think about college abroad. They are even pushing us to move out of the US now.

You do realize that almost every nation abroad has much more restrictive abortion laws than the U.S.?

Nope. You keep trying to push that BS, but it's not true.

It is. It will take you about a minute to google it. Most have term limits and many have some type of waiting period and/or counseling requirement.

European countries with mandatory waiting periods and/or counseling requirements:

Albania
Armenia
Belgium
Bosnia Hertz
Georgia
Germany
Hungary
Ireland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Portugal
Russia
Slovakia
Spain

In a number of these countries, such as Germany and Hungary, laws require biased and directive counselling deliberately intended to influence women’s decision-making and dissuade them from having an abortion.

Still lying. Half the states in the US are rapidly moving toward no abotion at all for any reason except death of the mother.

The list you give isn't remotely comparable.

You are either really obtuse or just plain ignorant, which is supported by you not supporting your lying claims with one iota of fact. Abortion is available in the U.S. up until the moment of birth if you choose to go to a place where it is allowed. Individual states have restrictions, but as a country, it is not as restrictive as most other countries, which actually have fairly strict timelines as well as counseling/waiting periods which we do not. There are multiple, multiple sources on the rights and restrictions in other countries. If you choose to not believe them, that is your problem, but it doesn't make me a liar.

Yes it does. Moment of birth? What kind of nonsense are you spewing? That is not happening unless there is some kind of total life or death emergency.


Overturning Roe by a bunch of old conservative mostly men just shoved our sons and daughters back 50 years. We all had more rights than our daughters now do. It's outrageous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, NC has not banned yet. Neither has VA. NC has a Dem Governor, even

Guess we will see what happens over the next two years.

I think VA is going to swing back, honestly.

Of course, with the Supreme Court on board with this state legislature nonsense, NONE of this matters. Gerrymandered R legislatures Will overturn votes they don’t like in 2024 and the US will have a nationwide ban in 2025.

https://www.axios.com/2022/05/14/abortion-state-laws-bans-roe-supreme-court

yes, here are the laws. For most states it's viability, which was the Roe standard.



Which is why my kids are already starting to think about college abroad. They are even pushing us to move out of the US now.

You do realize that almost every nation abroad has much more restrictive abortion laws than the U.S.?

Nope. You keep trying to push that BS, but it's not true.

It is. It will take you about a minute to google it. Most have term limits and many have some type of waiting period and/or counseling requirement.

European countries with mandatory waiting periods and/or counseling requirements:

Albania
Armenia
Belgium
Bosnia Hertz
Georgia
Germany
Hungary
Ireland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Portugal
Russia
Slovakia
Spain

In a number of these countries, such as Germany and Hungary, laws require biased and directive counselling deliberately intended to influence women’s decision-making and dissuade them from having an abortion.

Still lying. Half the states in the US are rapidly moving toward no abotion at all for any reason except death of the mother.

The list you give isn't remotely comparable.

You are either really obtuse or just plain ignorant, which is supported by you not supporting your lying claims with one iota of fact. Abortion is available in the U.S. up until the moment of birth if you choose to go to a place where it is allowed. Individual states have restrictions, but as a country, it is not as restrictive as most other countries, which actually have fairly strict timelines as well as counseling/waiting periods which we do not. There are multiple, multiple sources on the rights and restrictions in other countries. If you choose to not believe them, that is your problem, but it doesn't make me a liar.

Yes it does. Moment of birth? What kind of nonsense are you spewing? That is not happening unless there is some kind of total life or death emergency.


Overturning Roe by a bunch of old conservative mostly men just shoved our sons and daughters back 50 years. We all had more rights than our daughters now do. It's outrageous.

SO true!


And here's the truth, unlike the garbage the earlier poster was spewing.
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/14/abortion-state-laws-bans-roe-supreme-court

About 93% of reported abortions in 2019 were performed at or before 13 weeks of pregnancy, 6% were conducted between 14 and 20 weeks and 1% were performed at or after 21 weeks, according to the most recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

People who tend to have abortions later in a pregnancy do so because of "medical concerns such as fetal anomalies or maternal life endangerment, as well as barriers to care that cause delays in obtaining an abortion," per the Kaiser Family Foundation.

People aren't waltzing into abortion clinics at 30 weeks just to have an elective abortion.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, pro-lifers - no matter what you want to believe, this is already in motion and it's far bigger than DCUM. You can't and won't stop this by going on a message board and calling everyone "nutjobs."

Your states *will* and already are losing revenue as will companies based in your states, and that's entirely the fault of you pro-lifers.

Poll after poll shows that this is not the issue to most people you want it to be. It's just not.

It is. Many products and services will suffer the date of my pillow if they don't push back against this insanity. People are very very angry.

+1

VERY angry.

Barely more than half oppose the SC decision, and less than half strongly oppose it. Only a slim margin of I's oppose and most R's agree. This was right after the decision. It will fade as an issue except for people who were already going to vote D anyway.

"By a 56%-to-40% margin, respondents oppose the court's decision, including 45% who strongly oppose it.

Almost 9-in-10 Democrats and a slim majority of independents (53%) are against the decision. Three-quarters of Republicans, on the other hand, support it."

Better hope that enough to support all these companies, colleges and other institutions because many of us are moving on to places and companies with more respect for women's rights.

Your individual anecdotal decision does not mean the majority of people agree with you. For most people, life goes on. Many of these states already had pretty restrictive abortion laws and were doing just fine. Polls show it is just not a top priority for most.

That is because people have their head in the sand. Once the impact starts to prevent more and more people from accessing healthcare and from enjoying healthy sex lives, people will realize all they have lost.

My lawyer and doctor friends say it's already a sh"tshow.

Exactly how do you define a "healthy sex life?" Sleeping around with no concern for the consequences of these actions?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look, pro-lifers - no matter what you want to believe, this is already in motion and it's far bigger than DCUM. You can't and won't stop this by going on a message board and calling everyone "nutjobs."

Your states *will* and already are losing revenue as will companies based in your states, and that's entirely the fault of you pro-lifers.

Poll after poll shows that this is not the issue to most people you want it to be. It's just not.

It is. Many products and services will suffer the date of my pillow if they don't push back against this insanity. People are very very angry.

+1

VERY angry.

Barely more than half oppose the SC decision, and less than half strongly oppose it. Only a slim margin of I's oppose and most R's agree. This was right after the decision. It will fade as an issue except for people who were already going to vote D anyway.

"By a 56%-to-40% margin, respondents oppose the court's decision, including 45% who strongly oppose it.

Almost 9-in-10 Democrats and a slim majority of independents (53%) are against the decision. Three-quarters of Republicans, on the other hand, support it."

Better hope that enough to support all these companies, colleges and other institutions because many of us are moving on to places and companies with more respect for women's rights.

Your individual anecdotal decision does not mean the majority of people agree with you. For most people, life goes on. Many of these states already had pretty restrictive abortion laws and were doing just fine. Polls show it is just not a top priority for most.

That is because people have their head in the sand. Once the impact starts to prevent more and more people from accessing healthcare and from enjoying healthy sex lives, people will realize all they have lost.

My lawyer and doctor friends say it's already a sh"tshow.

You don't think you can have a healthy sex life without being able to have an abortion?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, NC has not banned yet. Neither has VA. NC has a Dem Governor, even

Guess we will see what happens over the next two years.

I think VA is going to swing back, honestly.

Of course, with the Supreme Court on board with this state legislature nonsense, NONE of this matters. Gerrymandered R legislatures Will overturn votes they don’t like in 2024 and the US will have a nationwide ban in 2025.

Which is why my kids are already starting to think about college abroad. They are even pushing us to move out of the US now.

You do realize that almost every nation abroad has much more restrictive abortion laws than the U.S.?

Nope. You keep trying to push that BS, but it's not true.

It is. It will take you about a minute to google it. Most have term limits and many have some type of waiting period and/or counseling requirement.

European countries with mandatory waiting periods and/or counseling requirements:

Albania
Armenia
Belgium
Bosnia Hertz
Georgia
Germany
Hungary
Ireland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Portugal
Russia
Slovakia
Spain

In a number of these countries, such as Germany and Hungary, laws require biased and directive counselling deliberately intended to influence women’s decision-making and dissuade them from having an abortion.

Still lying. Half the states in the US are rapidly moving toward no abotion at all for any reason except death of the mother.

The list you give isn't remotely comparable.

You are either really obtuse or just plain ignorant, which is supported by you not supporting your lying claims with one iota of fact. Abortion is available in the U.S. up until the moment of birth if you choose to go to a place where it is allowed. Individual states have restrictions, but as a country, it is not as restrictive as most other countries, which actually have fairly strict timelines as well as counseling/waiting periods which we do not. There are multiple, multiple sources on the rights and restrictions in other countries. If you choose to not believe them, that is your problem, but it doesn't make me a liar.

Yes it does. Moment of birth? What kind of nonsense are you spewing? That is not happening unless there is some kind of total life or death emergency.


Overturning Roe by a bunch of old conservative mostly men just shoved our sons and daughters back 50 years. We all had more rights than our daughters now do. It's outrageous.

There is no such thing as moment of birth abortion, it is called birth. All medical facilities have ETHICS boards and strict ethical standards. If a fetus is VIABLE and healthy in the third trimester, it is going to be BORN, it is the same procedure as an abortion, doctors don't kill fetuses that can survive. Abortions performed in the 3rd trimester account for less than 1% of abortions and are due to extreme circumstances, either to save the life of the mother or a major birth defect.