Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so he was in a relationship with a trans person. The right will resume its regularly scheduled revenge or whatever Mrs. Kirk and Trump were referring to.

Ok and keep on churning out those guns.

Let’s buying back everyone’s gun for $2000 each and then sell them to some other country, highest bidder!

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Yikes

Good due diligence though

And these are the guys that Dems want in girls bathrooms? Yikes

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Anonymous wrote:It's disgusting how all of these people professing to be so angered and distraught over the shooting of Charlie Kirk have

JACK SHIT

to say about any of the other violent, ideologically motivated shootings going on, like the one in Colorado.

https://coloradosun.com/2025/09/12/evergreen-high-school-shooting-suspect-social-media/

You people are dishonest, disingenuous and full of crap.

Did any victims die? No

Did anyone famous in a natl scale die? No.

How many people get shot and killed daily in America? With or without gang on gang shootings?

CO boy was a social media influenced shooter who injured two and then killed himself.

Do you want him to get more attention so other troubled young men do the same? Or what do you want?

We want gun control for starters.

Just remember Charlie could be here tonight reading Goodnight Moon to his kids.

Trans or not, he probably still would be if Robinson wasn't raised in a gun-obsessed family.

Yes trans is irrelevant.

Trans is relevent because it changes the meaning of two of his meme engravings. Making him someone who was torn between his internet reality and his life reality and very cliche.

His meme engravings don't matter either actually. What only matters is that this particular individual decided to murder someone. That's it.

What the internet and our society have become matters. If this is true then he's a smart incel groyper gamer raised in a loving 3%er LEO Utah Mormon MAGA home that dropped out of college during Covid then got laid with a pre-op male to female transgender gamer from Utah and his mind couldn't handle all the contradictions.

The layers of crap all converge. He's a poster child for everything about these last few horrible years. He's a walking rorsach test.

Ok so what should we, as a society do? Provide more guns? Continue to ostracize these people? Condemn them for being different?

No. It's not even about them. This is about everything we as a society have become since Covid. Right wing and left wing internet crazies coming together to screw up this kid's mind.

It's not about guns. It's not about trans. It's not about the alt-right. It's not about internet grifting. It's not about the politicization of everything. It's not about calls for retribution. It's not about mocking a victim. It's about all of it coming together in some sick concoction.

We need a cure for everything. And in all seriousness that cure is the Epstein files. It's the one thing we all agree should be released in full and let the chips fall where they lay.

If we all agree on it then why do the sleazy Republicans keep voting to block it?

We need single issue bills put FW.

Not 800 pages of horse trading ones.

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Anonymous wrote:It's disgusting how all of these people professing to be so angered and distraught over the shooting of Charlie Kirk have

JACK SHIT

to say about any of the other violent, ideologically motivated shootings going on, like the one in Colorado.

https://coloradosun.com/2025/09/12/evergreen-high-school-shooting-suspect-social-media/

You people are dishonest, disingenuous and full of crap.

Did any victims die? No

Did anyone famous in a natl scale die? No.

How many people get shot and killed daily in America? With or without gang on gang shootings?

CO boy was a social media influenced shooter who injured two and then killed himself.

Do you want him to get more attention so other troubled young men do the same? Or what do you want?

We want gun control for starters.

Just remember Charlie could be here tonight reading Goodnight Moon to his kids.

Trans or not, he probably still would be if Robinson wasn't raised in a gun-obsessed family.

Yes trans is irrelevant.

Trans is relevent because it changes the meaning of two of his meme engravings. Making him someone who was torn between his internet reality and his life reality and very cliche.

His meme engravings don't matter either actually. What only matters is that this particular individual decided to murder someone. That's it.

What the internet and our society have become matters. If this is true then he's a smart incel groyper gamer raised in a loving 3%er LEO Utah Mormon MAGA home that dropped out of college during Covid then got laid with a pre-op male to female transgender gamer from Utah and his mind couldn't handle all the contradictions.

The layers of crap all converge. He's a poster child for everything about these last few horrible years. He's a walking rorsach test.

Ok so what should we, as a society do? Provide more guns? Continue to ostracize these people? Condemn them for being different?

No. It's not even about them. This is about everything we as a society have become since Covid. Right wing and left wing internet crazies coming together to screw up this kid's mind.

It's not about guns. It's not about trans. It's not about the alt-right. It's not about internet grifting. It's not about the politicization of everything. It's not about calls for retribution. It's not about mocking a victim. It's about all of it coming together in some sick concoction.

We need a cure for everything. And in all seriousness that cure is the Epstein files. It's the one thing we all agree should be released in full and let the chips fall where they lay.

Since Covid!? No how bout since Columbine?

DP yes, but Covid is when America put the pedal to the metal on crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:My main takeaway from this incident is that this country is becoming batshit insane and for the first time in my life I’m scared for our future. It’s getting WEIRD out here.

This is because there’s no independent thought.

Certainly not by those under age 40 and over age 70

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Anonymous wrote:It’s so weird but also so predictable that I. Two pages, DCUM goes from “there is no shred of evidence he was trans” to “who cares?”

The FBI has confirmed the partner of the killer is a male to female and they lived together romantically. The partner is cooperating with the FBI and has confirmed this herself.

It certainly explains motive and settles the “actually he was a far right Nazi” question. Can we move on now and accept he was radicalized to the left?

Not touching the furry thing other than that it explains the engravings somewhat. Beyond that, I don’t think it is relevant.

Having a transgender partner doesn’t explain motive. All it establishes is a personal detail about the killer’s life, not why the attack happened. A motive requires evidence that the act was driven by a specific belief system, grievance, or goal. Saying “he dated a trans woman, therefore he was radicalized to the left” is a logical leap — it’s like saying someone who dates a Christian must be motivated by Christianity. Until there’s actual proof, like writings, statements, or affiliations tying the violence to left-wing ideology, the partner’s gender identity doesn’t settle anything about motive.

Missing the forest for the trees…we need gun control, mental health resources, empathy.

Charlie Kirk didn’t think highly of empathy.

Well Charlie would still be alive today playing with his babies if we focused more on the above.

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You reap what you sow. And the "reaping" isn't always accompanied by good people or a socially palatable method. Reaping doesn't mean deserving, it means natural, unsurprising consequence, note the distinction.

Not sure what country or time period you live in but in NO ONE’s law book, govt, or faith is it “natural and unsurprising” to unilaterally decide shoot someone down for what they have said in public forums. Or private ones.

That’s anarchy, lawlessness, chaos, not to mention unethical, illegal and immoral in most religions and societies.

— Note the distinction of your illogic and falsities. And zero understanding of due process.

You are missing the point. I was not saying violence is legal, moral, or justified. I was saying it can be a predictable consequence. “Reaping what you sow” in that context means unsurprising outcome, not rightful punishment. Condemning the act as illegal or immoral is valid, but it does not address the claim of inevitability.

Nope. Shooting down a politician or activist is not a “predictable consequence” nor “unsurprising outcome” nor “inevitability” of them being a vocal politician or activist.

Get professional help Pp.

In a country where uncivilized politicians enact wil wild West style gun laws, shooting down a politician is a predictable consequence , indeed. Facts don't care about your fragile and hypocritical feelings .

Speaking of facts, what you cited - shooting down a politician - is indeed extremely rare in America and most countries.

Plus Charlie Kirk was quite civilized when he spoke. That was his model- or else it wouldn’t work, watch the shows.

Thanks for playing, better luck next time!

In one episode of his podcast, Kirk suggested that children should be forced to watch Trump’s political opponents beheaded live on television. With sponsorship by Coca-Cola.

That doesn’t sound very civilized.

Link please

Look it up yourself.

So you made that up. Ok.

Here’s a partial transcript from the February 15, 2024 episode of Thoughtcrime, in which Kirk and panelists discuss televising executions and making children watch them as a deterrent:

https://www.mediamatters.org/media/4016719

Your apology is accepted.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s so weird but also so predictable that I. Two pages, DCUM goes from “there is no shred of evidence he was trans” to “who cares?”

The FBI has confirmed the partner of the killer is a male to female and they lived together romantically. The partner is cooperating with the FBI and has confirmed this herself.

It certainly explains motive and settles the “actually he was a far right Nazi” question. Can we move on now and accept he was radicalized to the left?

Not touching the furry thing other than that it explains the engravings somewhat. Beyond that, I don’t think it is relevant.

Having a transgender partner doesn’t explain motive. All it establishes is a personal detail about the killer’s life, not why the attack happened. A motive requires evidence that the act was driven by a specific belief system, grievance, or goal. Saying “he dated a trans woman, therefore he was radicalized to the left” is a logical leap — it’s like saying someone who dates a Christian must be motivated by Christianity. Until there’s actual proof, like writings, statements, or affiliations tying the violence to left-wing ideology, the partner’s gender identity doesn’t settle anything about motive.

Missing the forest for the trees…we need gun control, mental health resources, empathy.

Charlie Kirk didn’t think highly of empathy.

Well Charlie would still be alive today playing with his babies if we focused more on the above.

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You reap what you sow. And the "reaping" isn't always accompanied by good people or a socially palatable method. Reaping doesn't mean deserving, it means natural, unsurprising consequence, note the distinction.

Not sure what country or time period you live in but in NO ONE’s law book, govt, or faith is it “natural and unsurprising” to unilaterally decide shoot someone down for what they have said in public forums. Or private ones.

That’s anarchy, lawlessness, chaos, not to mention unethical, illegal and immoral in most religions and societies.

— Note the distinction of your illogic and falsities. And zero understanding of due process.

You are missing the point. I was not saying violence is legal, moral, or justified. I was saying it can be a predictable consequence. “Reaping what you sow” in that context means unsurprising outcome, not rightful punishment. Condemning the act as illegal or immoral is valid, but it does not address the claim of inevitability.

Nope. Shooting down a politician or activist is not a “predictable consequence” nor “unsurprising outcome” nor “inevitability” of them being a vocal politician or activist.

Get professional help Pp.

In a country where uncivilized politicians enact wil wild West style gun laws, shooting down a politician is a predictable consequence , indeed. Facts don't care about your fragile and hypocritical feelings .

Speaking of facts, what you cited - shooting down a politician - is indeed extremely rare in America and most countries.

Plus Charlie Kirk was quite civilized when he spoke. That was his model- or else it wouldn’t work, watch the shows.

Thanks for playing, better luck next time!

In one episode of his podcast, Kirk suggested that children should be forced to watch Trump’s political opponents beheaded live on television. With sponsorship by Coca-Cola.

That doesn’t sound very civilized.

Context and link?

Look it up yourself. If you don't find the poster credible in context that is your problem.

Mmmm k

Glad you understand.

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Yikes

Good due diligence though

And these are the guys that Dems want in girls bathrooms? Yikes

Do you see many guys in ladies’ restrooms? I have never seen one yet.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so he was in a relationship with a trans person. The right will resume its regularly scheduled revenge or whatever Mrs. Kirk and Trump were referring to.

Ok and keep on churning out those guns.

Let’s buying back everyone’s gun for $2000 each and then sell them to some other country, highest bidder!

$2,000 x 400,000,000?

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Anonymous wrote:Americans need serious medication / treatment for the severe mental illness. The level of hate and vileness is unreal. God needs to do more than bless America. He needs to comeback asap and take us all out. This is crazy.

The is what mass delusion and brainwashing looks like.

On all sides

It made me delete the apps this week. The online performances made me feel like I was in crazy town. Everyone doesn’t have to make a post, I didn’t because I knew immediately that people were going to get intense. I saw the right wingers in my life who never talk about religion online come and try to out Christian everyone else, and the left wingers trying to come up with their best gotcha talking point or joke. Nobody cares what you think about the situation, seriously you are not that important that you have to make a statement on everything. The performing is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s so weird but also so predictable that I. Two pages, DCUM goes from “there is no shred of evidence he was trans” to “who cares?”

The FBI has confirmed the partner of the killer is a male to female and they lived together romantically. The partner is cooperating with the FBI and has confirmed this herself.

It certainly explains motive and settles the “actually he was a far right Nazi” question. Can we move on now and accept he was radicalized to the left?

Not touching the furry thing other than that it explains the engravings somewhat. Beyond that, I don’t think it is relevant.

Having a transgender partner doesn’t explain motive. All it establishes is a personal detail about the killer’s life, not why the attack happened. A motive requires evidence that the act was driven by a specific belief system, grievance, or goal. Saying “he dated a trans woman, therefore he was radicalized to the left” is a logical leap — it’s like saying someone who dates a Christian must be motivated by Christianity. Until there’s actual proof, like writings, statements, or affiliations tying the violence to left-wing ideology, the partner’s gender identity doesn’t settle anything about motive.

Missing the forest for the trees…we need gun control, mental health resources, empathy.

Charlie Kirk didn’t think highly of empathy.

Well Charlie would still be alive today playing with his babies if we focused more on the above.

+1
You reap what you sow. And the "reaping" isn't always accompanied by good people or a socially palatable method. Reaping doesn't mean deserving, it means natural, unsurprising consequence, note the distinction.

Not sure what country or time period you live in but in NO ONE’s law book, govt, or faith is it “natural and unsurprising” to unilaterally decide shoot someone down for what they have said in public forums. Or private ones.

That’s anarchy, lawlessness, chaos, not to mention unethical, illegal and immoral in most religions and societies.

— Note the distinction of your illogic and falsities. And zero understanding of due process.

You are missing the point. I was not saying violence is legal, moral, or justified. I was saying it can be a predictable consequence. “Reaping what you sow” in that context means unsurprising outcome, not rightful punishment. Condemning the act as illegal or immoral is valid, but it does not address the claim of inevitability.

Nope. Shooting down a politician or activist is not a “predictable consequence” nor “unsurprising outcome” nor “inevitability” of them being a vocal politician or activist.

Get professional help Pp.

In a country where uncivilized politicians enact wil wild West style gun laws, shooting down a politician is a predictable consequence , indeed. Facts don't care about your fragile and hypocritical feelings .

Speaking of facts, what you cited - shooting down a politician - is indeed extremely rare in America and most countries.

Plus Charlie Kirk was quite civilized when he spoke. That was his model- or else it wouldn’t work, watch the shows.

Thanks for playing, better luck next time!

I don’t think the following quote counts as civilized.

CHARLIE KIRK (HOST): I know what you're thinking, we've got to get Joe Biden out of the way so we can run against Kammy. Oh my goodness, is she beatable. It's like Black Hillary on steroids. Is she Black? I guess she says she's Caribbean or whatever. ...

She would be a lot easier to beat than Joe Biden. Joe Biden is a bumbling dementia filled Alzheimer's corrupt tyrant who should honestly be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for his crimes against America.

Honest and accurate.

That’s what I’d call that.

But she was no black Hillary. Hillary was well-qualified, and I hated to see her in that neutered Dept of State role Obama put her in. But she was corrupt.

What if somone said Kirk or Trump deserved the death penalty?

Nothing. Most people would ignore them.

They don’t understand laws or the justice system.

Maybe they need to propose, debate, defend and legislate a new law if they have some breaking new philosophy on criminality.

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Anonymous wrote:Americans need serious medication / treatment for the severe mental illness. The level of hate and vileness is unreal. God needs to do more than bless America. He needs to comeback asap and take us all out. This is crazy.

The is what mass delusion and brainwashing looks like.

On all sides

It made me delete the apps this week. The online performances made me feel like I was in crazy town. Everyone doesn’t have to make a post, I didn’t because I knew immediately that people were going to get intense. I saw the right wingers in my life who never talk about religion online come and try to out Christian everyone else, and the left wingers trying to come up with their best gotcha talking point or joke. Nobody cares what you think about the situation, seriously you are not that important that you have to make a statement on everything. The performing is ridiculous.

Social media has turned us all into main characters. We’re a bunch of ill informed, ignorant, self absorbed, arrogant aholes now.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s so weird but also so predictable that I. Two pages, DCUM goes from “there is no shred of evidence he was trans” to “who cares?”

The FBI has confirmed the partner of the killer is a male to female and they lived together romantically. The partner is cooperating with the FBI and has confirmed this herself.

It certainly explains motive and settles the “actually he was a far right Nazi” question. Can we move on now and accept he was radicalized to the left?

Not touching the furry thing other than that it explains the engravings somewhat. Beyond that, I don’t think it is relevant.

Having a transgender partner doesn’t explain motive. All it establishes is a personal detail about the killer’s life, not why the attack happened. A motive requires evidence that the act was driven by a specific belief system, grievance, or goal. Saying “he dated a trans woman, therefore he was radicalized to the left” is a logical leap — it’s like saying someone who dates a Christian must be motivated by Christianity. Until there’s actual proof, like writings, statements, or affiliations tying the violence to left-wing ideology, the partner’s gender identity doesn’t settle anything about motive.

Missing the forest for the trees…we need gun control, mental health resources, empathy.

Charlie Kirk didn’t think highly of empathy.

Well Charlie would still be alive today playing with his babies if we focused more on the above.

+1
You reap what you sow. And the "reaping" isn't always accompanied by good people or a socially palatable method. Reaping doesn't mean deserving, it means natural, unsurprising consequence, note the distinction.

Not sure what country or time period you live in but in NO ONE’s law book, govt, or faith is it “natural and unsurprising” to unilaterally decide shoot someone down for what they have said in public forums. Or private ones.

That’s anarchy, lawlessness, chaos, not to mention unethical, illegal and immoral in most religions and societies.

— Note the distinction of your illogic and falsities. And zero understanding of due process.

You are missing the point. I was not saying violence is legal, moral, or justified. I was saying it can be a predictable consequence. “Reaping what you sow” in that context means unsurprising outcome, not rightful punishment. Condemning the act as illegal or immoral is valid, but it does not address the claim of inevitability.

Nope. Shooting down a politician or activist is not a “predictable consequence” nor “unsurprising outcome” nor “inevitability” of them being a vocal politician or activist.

Get professional help Pp.

In a country where uncivilized politicians enact wil wild West style gun laws, shooting down a politician is a predictable consequence , indeed. Facts don't care about your fragile and hypocritical feelings .

Speaking of facts, what you cited - shooting down a politician - is indeed extremely rare in America and most countries.

Plus Charlie Kirk was quite civilized when he spoke. That was his model- or else it wouldn’t work, watch the shows.

Thanks for playing, better luck next time!

In one episode of his podcast, Kirk suggested that children should be forced to watch Trump’s political opponents beheaded live on television. With sponsorship by Coca-Cola.

That doesn’t sound very civilized.

Context and link?

Look it up yourself. If you don't find the poster credible in context that is your problem.

Dude, who would? You just wrote 25-30 words.

How dumb do you think people are?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s so weird but also so predictable that I. Two pages, DCUM goes from “there is no shred of evidence he was trans” to “who cares?”

The FBI has confirmed the partner of the killer is a male to female and they lived together romantically. The partner is cooperating with the FBI and has confirmed this herself.

It certainly explains motive and settles the “actually he was a far right Nazi” question. Can we move on now and accept he was radicalized to the left?

Not touching the furry thing other than that it explains the engravings somewhat. Beyond that, I don’t think it is relevant.

Having a transgender partner doesn’t explain motive. All it establishes is a personal detail about the killer’s life, not why the attack happened. A motive requires evidence that the act was driven by a specific belief system, grievance, or goal. Saying “he dated a trans woman, therefore he was radicalized to the left” is a logical leap — it’s like saying someone who dates a Christian must be motivated by Christianity. Until there’s actual proof, like writings, statements, or affiliations tying the violence to left-wing ideology, the partner’s gender identity doesn’t settle anything about motive.

Missing the forest for the trees…we need gun control, mental health resources, empathy.

Charlie Kirk didn’t think highly of empathy.

Well Charlie would still be alive today playing with his babies if we focused more on the above.

+1
You reap what you sow. And the "reaping" isn't always accompanied by good people or a socially palatable method. Reaping doesn't mean deserving, it means natural, unsurprising consequence, note the distinction.

Not sure what country or time period you live in but in NO ONE’s law book, govt, or faith is it “natural and unsurprising” to unilaterally decide shoot someone down for what they have said in public forums. Or private ones.

That’s anarchy, lawlessness, chaos, not to mention unethical, illegal and immoral in most religions and societies.

— Note the distinction of your illogic and falsities. And zero understanding of due process.

You are missing the point. I was not saying violence is legal, moral, or justified. I was saying it can be a predictable consequence. “Reaping what you sow” in that context means unsurprising outcome, not rightful punishment. Condemning the act as illegal or immoral is valid, but it does not address the claim of inevitability.

Nope. Shooting down a politician or activist is not a “predictable consequence” nor “unsurprising outcome” nor “inevitability” of them being a vocal politician or activist.

Get professional help Pp.

In a country where uncivilized politicians enact wil wild West style gun laws, shooting down a politician is a predictable consequence , indeed. Facts don't care about your fragile and hypocritical feelings .

Speaking of facts, what you cited - shooting down a politician - is indeed extremely rare in America and most countries.

Plus Charlie Kirk was quite civilized when he spoke. That was his model- or else it wouldn’t work, watch the shows.

Thanks for playing, better luck next time!

In one episode of his podcast, Kirk suggested that children should be forced to watch Trump’s political opponents beheaded live on television. With sponsorship by Coca-Cola.

That doesn’t sound very civilized.

Context and link?

Look it up yourself. If you don't find the poster credible in context that is your problem.

Dude, who would? You just wrote 25-30 words.

How dumb do you think people are?

Information has been provided. Up to you what you do with it.

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Good due diligence though

And these are the guys that Dems want in girls bathrooms? Yikes

As a woman, based on everything I've read so far I'd rather be in a bathroom alone with Lance Twiggs than Charlie Kirk. Or Donald Trump. Or Pete Hegseth.
But I understand now why the father was ok turning in his own son for a crime that might get him the death penalty. It wasn't because he killed someone.
Feel that Christian love...