FCPS paying for Critical Race Theory curriculum. To be implemented in a year

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Anonymous wrote:You’d still be a poor simpleton had Jefferson never been born, and the liberties you enjoy today would likely be substantially curtailed.

Yeah right! F you and F Jefferson too.

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Anonymous wrote:If we are only going to view history by teaching about ideas that came from human beings whose morals were beyond reproach, then we might as well stop teaching history. It is possible to be both a visionary and a deeply flawed human being. We don't need to depict historical figures as heroes in order to teach about the impact of their ideas.

A rare gust of common sense above!

+ a million

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Anonymous wrote:If this board is anything, it's proof that fcps really needs this curriculum.

Un-heroing Jefferson isn't needed or "doing better" (from 'When we know better, we do better').

He can be presented in an unwhitewashed manner. More facts, less worship.

There isn't any CRT proponent on this thread who is capable of that.

Present him as a founding father of our country as well as a southern plantation owner whose wealth and position was built - and maintained - on slavery and who raped at least one of his slaves.

Monticello does a decent job of sharing various perspectives.
https://www.monticello.org/thomas-jefferson/jefferson-slavery/

He died bankrupt. Like many other white men, he (probably, it might have been someone else) kept a concubine who was a Black enslaved woman. To our modern eyes, the relationship was offensive and bizarre. But at the time, it was common and understood.

None of this is why he is important or an American hero though. We can certainly teach his private life but it's secondary to the teachings of his historical and contemporary importance.

A lot of Muslims and pretty much every rich dude in the Middle East does that (sure, they call them all wives). Let's hear the left talk about it.. <<Silence>>

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Anonymous wrote:If this board is anything, it's proof that fcps really needs this curriculum.

Un-heroing Jefferson isn't needed or "doing better" (from 'When we know better, we do better').

He can be presented in an unwhitewashed manner. More facts, less worship.

There isn't any CRT proponent on this thread who is capable of that.

Present him as a founding father of our country as well as a southern plantation owner whose wealth and position was built - and maintained - on slavery and who raped at least one of his slaves.

Monticello does a decent job of sharing various perspectives.
https://www.monticello.org/thomas-jefferson/jefferson-slavery/

He died bankrupt. Like many other white men, he (probably, it might have been someone else) kept a concubine who was a Black enslaved woman. To our modern eyes, the relationship was offensive and bizarre. But at the time, it was common and understood.

None of this is why he is important or an American hero though. We can certainly teach his private life but it's secondary to the teachings of his historical and contemporary importance.

I think it's more important to recognize him as a human, flaws and all. Don't idolize him based on only a portion of his actions.

Having flaws? He was aware of the contradiction of American freedom and slavery. Being broke might be a character flaw. Is having a concubine a character flaw?

Why do you think teaching Jefferson's entire life is more important than teaching his specific importance to the country, then and now? Can you elaborate?

Because the world would have been a better place without a foul rapist like him.

How so? Can you play out your alternative history? If Jefferson never existed, what happens next?

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Anonymous wrote:If this board is anything, it's proof that fcps really needs this curriculum.

Un-heroing Jefferson isn't needed or "doing better" (from 'When we know better, we do better').

He can be presented in an unwhitewashed manner. More facts, less worship.

There isn't any CRT proponent on this thread who is capable of that.

Present him as a founding father of our country as well as a southern plantation owner whose wealth and position was built - and maintained - on slavery and who raped at least one of his slaves.

Monticello does a decent job of sharing various perspectives.
https://www.monticello.org/thomas-jefferson/jefferson-slavery/

He died bankrupt. Like many other white men, he (probably, it might have been someone else) kept a concubine who was a Black enslaved woman. To our modern eyes, the relationship was offensive and bizarre. But at the time, it was common and understood.

None of this is why he is important or an American hero though. We can certainly teach his private life but it's secondary to the teachings of his historical and contemporary importance.

I think it's more important to recognize him as a human, flaws and all. Don't idolize him based on only a portion of his actions.

Having flaws? He was aware of the contradiction of American freedom and slavery. Being broke might be a character flaw. Is having a concubine a character flaw?

Why do you think teaching Jefferson's entire life is more important than teaching his specific importance to the country, then and now? Can you elaborate?

Because the world would have been a better place without a foul rapist like him.

....Says the loser posting from his parents' basement who has contributed nothing to society.

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Anonymous wrote:If this board is anything, it's proof that fcps really needs this curriculum.

Un-heroing Jefferson isn't needed or "doing better" (from 'When we know better, we do better').

He can be presented in an unwhitewashed manner. More facts, less worship.

There isn't any CRT proponent on this thread who is capable of that.

Present him as a founding father of our country as well as a southern plantation owner whose wealth and position was built - and maintained - on slavery and who raped at least one of his slaves.

Monticello does a decent job of sharing various perspectives.
https://www.monticello.org/thomas-jefferson/jefferson-slavery/

He died bankrupt. Like many other white men, he (probably, it might have been someone else) kept a concubine who was a Black enslaved woman. To our modern eyes, the relationship was offensive and bizarre. But at the time, it was common and understood.

None of this is why he is important or an American hero though. We can certainly teach his private life but it's secondary to the teachings of his historical and contemporary importance.

I think it's more important to recognize him as a human, flaws and all. Don't idolize him based on only a portion of his actions.

Having flaws? He was aware of the contradiction of American freedom and slavery. Being broke might be a character flaw. Is having a concubine a character flaw?

Why do you think teaching Jefferson's entire life is more important than teaching his specific importance to the country, then and now? Can you elaborate?

Because the world would have been a better place without a foul rapist like him.

....Says the loser posting from his parents' basement who has contributed nothing to society.

Has to be a loser in his parents basement to recognize that a man who rapes a preteen is not a good person? The white supremacists are in here heavy.

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Anonymous wrote:If this board is anything, it's proof that fcps really needs this curriculum.

Un-heroing Jefferson isn't needed or "doing better" (from 'When we know better, we do better').

He can be presented in an unwhitewashed manner. More facts, less worship.

There isn't any CRT proponent on this thread who is capable of that.

Present him as a founding father of our country as well as a southern plantation owner whose wealth and position was built - and maintained - on slavery and who raped at least one of his slaves.

Monticello does a decent job of sharing various perspectives.
https://www.monticello.org/thomas-jefferson/jefferson-slavery/

He died bankrupt. Like many other white men, he (probably, it might have been someone else) kept a concubine who was a Black enslaved woman. To our modern eyes, the relationship was offensive and bizarre. But at the time, it was common and understood.

None of this is why he is important or an American hero though. We can certainly teach his private life but it's secondary to the teachings of his historical and contemporary importance.

I think it's more important to recognize him as a human, flaws and all. Don't idolize him based on only a portion of his actions.

Having flaws? He was aware of the contradiction of American freedom and slavery. Being broke might be a character flaw. Is having a concubine a character flaw?

Why do you think teaching Jefferson's entire life is more important than teaching his specific importance to the country, then and now? Can you elaborate?

To show that he was human, not some untouchable hero/god.

By examining his actions, we can more closely read his words and realize they may be flawed as well. Which is fine - nothing’s perfect. We are all a work in progress, including TJ **and** our country.

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Anonymous wrote:If this board is anything, it's proof that fcps really needs this curriculum.

Un-heroing Jefferson isn't needed or "doing better" (from 'When we know better, we do better').

He can be presented in an unwhitewashed manner. More facts, less worship.

There isn't any CRT proponent on this thread who is capable of that.

Present him as a founding father of our country as well as a southern plantation owner whose wealth and position was built - and maintained - on slavery and who raped at least one of his slaves.

Monticello does a decent job of sharing various perspectives.
https://www.monticello.org/thomas-jefferson/jefferson-slavery/

He died bankrupt. Like many other white men, he (probably, it might have been someone else) kept a concubine who was a Black enslaved woman. To our modern eyes, the relationship was offensive and bizarre. But at the time, it was common and understood.

None of this is why he is important or an American hero though. We can certainly teach his private life but it's secondary to the teachings of his historical and contemporary importance.

I think it's more important to recognize him as a human, flaws and all. Don't idolize him based on only a portion of his actions.

Having flaws? He was aware of the contradiction of American freedom and slavery. Being broke might be a character flaw. Is having a concubine a character flaw?

Why do you think teaching Jefferson's entire life is more important than teaching his specific importance to the country, then and now? Can you elaborate?

To show that he was human, not some untouchable hero/god.

By examining his actions, we can more closely read his words and realize they may be flawed as well. Which is fine - nothing’s perfect. We are all a work in progress, including TJ **and** our country.

Sally Hemings was probably treated worse than Jaycee Duggard and Elizabeth Smart at the hands of the great hero Thomas Jefferson.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this board is anything, it's proof that fcps really needs this curriculum.

Un-heroing Jefferson isn't needed or "doing better" (from 'When we know better, we do better').

He can be presented in an unwhitewashed manner. More facts, less worship.

There isn't any CRT proponent on this thread who is capable of that.

Present him as a founding father of our country as well as a southern plantation owner whose wealth and position was built - and maintained - on slavery and who raped at least one of his slaves.

Monticello does a decent job of sharing various perspectives.
https://www.monticello.org/thomas-jefferson/jefferson-slavery/

He died bankrupt. Like many other white men, he (probably, it might have been someone else) kept a concubine who was a Black enslaved woman. To our modern eyes, the relationship was offensive and bizarre. But at the time, it was common and understood.

None of this is why he is important or an American hero though. We can certainly teach his private life but it's secondary to the teachings of his historical and contemporary importance.

I think it's more important to recognize him as a human, flaws and all. Don't idolize him based on only a portion of his actions.

Having flaws? He was aware of the contradiction of American freedom and slavery. Being broke might be a character flaw. Is having a concubine a character flaw?

Why do you think teaching Jefferson's entire life is more important than teaching his specific importance to the country, then and now? Can you elaborate?

To show that he was human, not some untouchable hero/god.

By examining his actions, we can more closely read his words and realize they may be flawed as well. Which is fine - nothing’s perfect. We are all a work in progress, including TJ **and** our country.

Sally Hemings was probably treated worse than Jaycee Duggard and Elizabeth Smart at the hands of the great hero Thomas Jefferson.

Certainly something to research and discuss - based on facts.

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There isn't a single person vocally advocating in public to rename Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology.

So put up or shut up with the anti-TJ posts. All they do right now is remind us you post from your basement.

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Anonymous wrote:There isn't a single person vocally advocating in public to rename Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology.

So put up or shut up with the anti-TJ posts. All they do right now is remind us you post from your basement.

Thomas Jefferson Elementary was renamed. Of course TJ is on the list.

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2020/12/falls-church-school-board-votes-unanimously-to-change-names-of-2-schools/

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Anonymous wrote:There isn't a single person vocally advocating in public to rename Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology.

So put up or shut up with the anti-TJ posts. All they do right now is remind us you post from your basement.

Thomas Jefferson Elementary was renamed. Of course TJ is on the list.

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2020/12/falls-church-school-board-votes-unanimously-to-change-names-of-2-schools/

But the majority of people did NOT want the names to be changed. Seven school board members outvoted the majority of the population that wanted to keep the names the same.

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Doesn't mean it won't happen in the future. None of this makes any sense. It's like we can't see ourselves as human anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't mean it won't happen in the future. None of this makes any sense. It's like we can't see ourselves as human anymore.

There's no excuse for being human, got it?

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Anonymous wrote:There isn't a single person vocally advocating in public to rename Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology.

So put up or shut up with the anti-TJ posts. All they do right now is remind us you post from your basement.

Thomas Jefferson Elementary was renamed. Of course TJ is on the list.

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2020/12/falls-church-school-board-votes-unanimously-to-change-names-of-2-schools/

Not TJHSST. No one pays much attention to what Falls Church City does.